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DAVIDSW · 4 September 2012, 11:23 PM

It has been brought to my attention that someone is contacting WTB posts posing as myself.

He is using this email

[email protected]

In the message he says his name is David Williams from the UK and links feedback from TRF

PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE.

bodybump · 5 September 2012, 12:58 AM

To all TRF members please be sure your trying to contact the RIGHT seller..if you need to talk to him over the phone DO IT!!Double check email..ask for references..This scammers do this for a living...I have one guy contacted me that some one is using my avatar on a different watch forum....Please be careful out there...

DAVIDSW · 5 September 2012, 01:57 AM

He is also using this email as well

[email protected]

subtona · 5 September 2012, 02:21 AM

trf trusted sellers, accept no substitutes

bewithabob · 5 September 2012, 02:35 AM

disgusting poseur!

AmbSteve · 5 September 2012, 02:56 AM

Thanks for the heads-up Dave.

travisb · 5 September 2012, 03:13 AM

Damn. That's just bad...
Good thing I've got u on speed dial David.
Be careful guys

byeedo · 5 September 2012, 04:57 AM

Thanks for the heads up!

JUSTROLEXES · 5 September 2012, 05:05 AM

Thanks for the Heads up David and Yes alway try to confirm who are you dealing with

Silvio Mosiello · 5 September 2012, 05:16 AM

Thanks man!

dysondiver · 5 September 2012, 05:22 AM

on the bright side ,,, at least its known now ,,, and in time to be able to do something about it , with luck... hope you get it sorted.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 5 September 2012, 08:17 AM

Thanks for the heads up David.

Fake watches aren't the only POS on TRF.

Z-Sub · 5 September 2012, 08:46 AM

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=244609

sleddog · 5 September 2012, 09:42 AM

Thanks for alerting the community David!!!

This just goes to show, never be complacent in any transaction until you know for sure with whom you're dealing with.....
Posting personal details (IE: phone numbers and personal Email addresses), is not a good idea in WTB adverts (or FS threads for that matter, unless you know how to protect yourself from scammers)...
Request PM's to be sent through the forum to ensure the person you are speaking with, is the person you thought!!! After reassurance, then move to personal email exchange if you please...

Always follow through with purchasing the seller/buyer, and never let your guard down!

dalip · 5 September 2012, 10:06 AM

Once again thanks for alerting Trf members to this David

There is a reason why zero tolerance is afforded to these types here. Always better safe than sorry.

Please be vigilant everyone.

Scammers have bags of charm and will always convince you they're anything but. Don't be fooled and more importantly always let us know of anything suspicious.

We do our best to ensure they're not allowed to operate here but there is no way we can ensure this at all. You must not rely on us but be cautious and assist

It's sickening and they deserve all that's coming to them.

DCgator · 5 September 2012, 10:26 AM

Thanks for the info, David.

mdtddd2007 · 5 September 2012, 10:54 AM

Will do:-) call to make sure. David is great!

Hamish · 5 September 2012, 09:29 PM

Thanks for the heads up

Puffy · 5 September 2012, 10:33 PM

thanks for flaggin!

JV588 · 6 September 2012, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog

Thanks for alerting the community David!!!

This just goes to show, never be complacent in any transaction until you know for sure with whom you're dealing with.....
Posting personal details (IE: phone numbers and personal Email addresses), is not a good idea in WTB adverts (or FS threads for that matter, unless you know how to protect yourself from scammers)...
Request PM's to be sent through the forum to ensure the person you are speaking with, is the person you thought!!! After reassurance, then move to personal email exchange if you please...

Always follow through with purchasing the seller/buyer, and never let your guard down!

HeyItsRaymond · 12 September 2012, 12:49 PM

What a POS.

Bangel · 12 September 2012, 08:15 PM

Thanks DavidSW for the warning.

Thanks bodybump, sleddog and Dalip for the additional advice.

Sleddog, your advice about using PMs I found particularly useful.

DAVIDSW · 25 September 2012, 07:53 AM

This is the address the scammer is giving out once you decide to go through with the purchase

65 Joran Street
London
EC1Y 1AX
United Kingdom

They want you to send the funds via Western Union. In the email they may also ask to send the funds to this address

Carol Williams

City: Ikeja

State: Lagos

Zipcode: 23401

Country: Nigeria

Another scam email address: [email protected]

Please look at the email address when you get any WTB to ensure it is the correct seller contacting you

DO NOT USE WESTERN UNION

I am in Orlando, Florida not the UK or Africa

J. Alan · 25 September 2012, 08:55 AM

Yes, it seems the TRF For Sale postings have been singled out by the Nigerian Scam Brigade. I guess the old "you send me $10,000 and I will send you $1MM once I get the $30MM willed to me released by using your money for lawyers to file the necessary release documents" scam isn't working anymore.

Thanks for the update, David.

As to the scammers,TRFers' give 'em the

J. Alan

bodybump · 25 September 2012, 09:52 AM

Again please use your WISE JUDGEMENT Most of the sellers here are base in the US...if somebody try to pretend it was Me or David,or Tony or Greg or just any trusted sellers in the forum please be wise enough to make that CALL!!! and Please bear in mind nobody us here lives in NIGERIA!!!We can only help you guys as much as we can...but it will still be all up to you to make that judgement call...

onkyo · 25 September 2012, 10:46 AM

Nigeria....

I really hope no one got suckered.

Thanks for heads up David !

dalip · 25 September 2012, 10:51 AM

Great info David. A lot of this stuff coming out of Nigeria now. They also use a US or UK email address and IP to register here, which makes it (slightly) harder for us to spot them.

Can we please have your full support TRF in this. We are an exceptional watch community - undoubtably the best on the net - and by reporting any suspicious contact you may have we can stop any of this before someone loses out.

Be aware TRF members.

We have excellent sellers on here that have clearly built a fantastic reputation for themselves - and now these thieves and losers are attempting to use their credentials to scam. They will get what's coming to them...but in the meantime be vigilant - and for Pete's sake don't ever deal with anyone who is asking you to send money in the way David describes.

DAVIDSW · 25 September 2012, 11:53 AM

These guys prey on the WTB posts across the various forums across the internet and give a link to TRF when the buyer asks for references...

Again... Please be extra careful if you put a WTB post and get contacted by anyone

arcadelt · 3 October 2012, 09:04 AM

Very good information amongst all these posts. However, I wonder if anyone else finds it ironic that much of the concern is around the use of e-mail addresses, leading to sleddog raising the benefit of using PMs, yet almost all of the 'big' sellers on Rolex Forums list e-mail addresses in each of their sale posts? Perhaps, to increase the security for all members, the use of external e-mail addresses in sale posts should be banned, forcing use of the more secure PM system? Just a thought.

77T · 3 October 2012, 12:27 PM

No doubt the PM method is more secure. I just reported a guy who was using it to "ask questions" which eventually led up to an offer to sell a Rolex. Thereby bypassing the entire For Sale or WTB sections.

Mods busted him, https://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=82697

Banned - so vigilance and reporting the scammers to Mods is a best practice.

4 September 2012, 11:23 PM	#1
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,337	Scam Alert- WTB It has been brought to my attention that someone is contacting WTB posts posing as myself. He is using this email [email protected] In the message he says his name is David Williams from the UK and links feedback from TRF PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE. __________________ Instagram @dsworlando

5 September 2012, 12:58 AM	#2
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	To all TRF members please be sure your trying to contact the RIGHT seller..if you need to talk to him over the phone DO IT!!Double check email..ask for references..This scammers do this for a living...I have one guy contacted me that some one is using my avatar on a different watch forum....Please be careful out there... __________________

5 September 2012, 01:57 AM	#3
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,337	He is also using this email as well [email protected] __________________ Instagram @dsworlando

5 September 2012, 02:21 AM	#4
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,596	trf trusted sellers, accept no substitutes __________________

5 September 2012, 02:35 AM	#5
bewithabob "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Bob Location: Dallas, Texas Watch: Daytona Meteorite Posts: 3,417	disgusting poseur! __________________ meteor flying to Earth onto my wrist... 116509 Daytona Meteorite, 116520 Daytona Black, 116710 GMTIIC, 16013 DATEJUST, CARTIER SANTOS 100 W20090X8, IWC Big Pilot, IWC Top Gun "Everything works out in the end. If it hasn't worked out, it's not the end."

5 September 2012, 02:56 AM	#6
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	Thanks for the heads-up Dave. __________________

5 September 2012, 03:13 AM	#7
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,486	Damn. That's just bad... Good thing I've got u on speed dial David. Be careful guys

5 September 2012, 04:57 AM	#8
byeedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Brian Location: usa Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 688	Thanks for the heads up!

5 September 2012, 05:05 AM	#9
JUSTROLEXES ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Tony Geha Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Yacht-Master Posts: 51,105	Thanks for the Heads up David and Yes alway try to confirm who are you dealing with __________________ Instagram @JustRolexes 2FA security active

5 September 2012, 05:16 AM	#10
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	Thanks man!

5 September 2012, 05:22 AM	#11
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	on the bright side ,,, at least its known now ,,, and in time to be able to do something about it , with luck... hope you get it sorted.

5 September 2012, 08:17 AM	#12
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Thanks for the heads up David. Fake watches aren't the only POS on TRF. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

5 September 2012, 08:46 AM	#13
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	likely the same Scammer http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=244609 __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

5 September 2012, 09:42 AM	#14
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	Thanks for alerting the community David!!! This just goes to show, never be complacent in any transaction until you know for sure with whom you're dealing with..... Posting personal details (IE: phone numbers and personal Email addresses), is not a good idea in WTB adverts (or FS threads for that matter, unless you know how to protect yourself from scammers)... Request PM's to be sent through the forum to ensure the person you are speaking with, is the person you thought!!! After reassurance, then move to personal email exchange if you please... Always follow through with purchasing the seller/buyer, and never let your guard down! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

5 September 2012, 10:06 AM	#15
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Once again thanks for alerting Trf members to this David There is a reason why zero tolerance is afforded to these types here. Always better safe than sorry. Please be vigilant everyone. Scammers have bags of charm and will always convince you they're anything but. Don't be fooled and more importantly always let us know of anything suspicious. We do our best to ensure they're not allowed to operate here but there is no way we can ensure this at all. You must not rely on us but be cautious and assist It's sickening and they deserve all that's coming to them. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

5 September 2012, 10:26 AM	#16
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	Thanks for the info, David.

5 September 2012, 10:54 AM	#17
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,785	Will do:-) call to make sure. David is great!

5 September 2012, 09:29 PM	#18
Hamish "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Earth Watch: 5575 Posts: 1,674	Thanks for the heads up

5 September 2012, 10:33 PM	#19
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	thanks for flaggin! __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

12 September 2012, 12:49 PM	#21
HeyItsRaymond Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 208	What a POS.

12 September 2012, 08:15 PM	#22
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	Thanks DavidSW for the warning. Thanks bodybump, sleddog and Dalip for the additional advice. Sleddog, your advice about using PMs I found particularly useful.

25 September 2012, 07:53 AM	#23
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,337	This is the address the scammer is giving out once you decide to go through with the purchase 65 Joran Street London EC1Y 1AX United Kingdom They want you to send the funds via Western Union. In the email they may also ask to send the funds to this address Carol Williams City: Ikeja State: Lagos Zipcode: 23401 Country: Nigeria Another scam email address: [email protected] Please look at the email address when you get any WTB to ensure it is the correct seller contacting you DO NOT USE WESTERN UNION I am in Orlando, Florida not the UK or Africa __________________ Instagram @dsworlando

25 September 2012, 08:55 AM	#24
J. Alan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 529	Yes, it seems the TRF For Sale postings have been singled out by the Nigerian Scam Brigade. I guess the old "you send me $10,000 and I will send you $1MM once I get the $30MM willed to me released by using your money for lawyers to file the necessary release documents" scam isn't working anymore. Thanks for the update, David. As to the scammers,TRFers' give 'em the J. Alan

25 September 2012, 09:52 AM	#25
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	Again please use your WISE JUDGEMENT Most of the sellers here are base in the US...if somebody try to pretend it was Me or David,or Tony or Greg or just any trusted sellers in the forum please be wise enough to make that CALL!!! and Please bear in mind nobody us here lives in NIGERIA!!!We can only help you guys as much as we can...but it will still be all up to you to make that judgement call... __________________

25 September 2012, 10:46 AM	#26
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Nigeria.... I really hope no one got suckered. Thanks for heads up David !

25 September 2012, 10:51 AM	#27
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Great info David. A lot of this stuff coming out of Nigeria now. They also use a US or UK email address and IP to register here, which makes it (slightly) harder for us to spot them. Can we please have your full support TRF in this. We are an exceptional watch community - undoubtably the best on the net - and by reporting any suspicious contact you may have we can stop any of this before someone loses out. Be aware TRF members. We have excellent sellers on here that have clearly built a fantastic reputation for themselves - and now these thieves and losers are attempting to use their credentials to scam. They will get what's coming to them...but in the meantime be vigilant - and for Pete's sake don't ever deal with anyone who is asking you to send money in the way David describes. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

25 September 2012, 11:53 AM	#28
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,337	These guys prey on the WTB posts across the various forums across the internet and give a link to TRF when the buyer asks for references... Again... Please be extra careful if you put a WTB post and get contacted by anyone __________________ Instagram @dsworlando

3 October 2012, 09:04 AM	#29
arcadelt "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monaro, NSW Posts: 846	Very good information amongst all these posts. However, I wonder if anyone else finds it ironic that much of the concern is around the use of e-mail addresses, leading to sleddog raising the benefit of using PMs, yet almost all of the 'big' sellers on Rolex Forums list e-mail addresses in each of their sale posts? Perhaps, to increase the security for all members, the use of external e-mail addresses in sale posts should be banned, forcing use of the more secure PM system? Just a thought.

3 October 2012, 12:27 PM	#30
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	No doubt the PM method is more secure. I just reported a guy who was using it to "ask questions" which eventually led up to an offer to sell a Rolex. Thereby bypassing the entire For Sale or WTB sections. Mods busted him, https://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=82697 Banned - so vigilance and reporting the scammers to Mods is a best practice. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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