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jemwatch · 21 September 2012, 07:27 AM

I am told this Tudor Sub I bought is a fake...any Tudor specialists out there???
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Thank you, Gary

[email protected]

Rags · 21 September 2012, 07:51 AM

Looks good to me but I'd think Dan Pierce would know better. Dan are you out there?

sierra11b · 21 September 2012, 07:56 AM

The snowflake hour hand looks suspect to me... too small?

Take a look at some examples here and notice how the snowflake hour hand appears larger with slightly crisper edges: http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=166036&page=2

Johnny Fever · 21 September 2012, 07:56 AM

Sure looks SW33T!

Frogman4me · 21 September 2012, 08:26 AM

In short I would not buy it.

RTea · 21 September 2012, 08:26 AM

It sure doesn't look right to me (but I am fairly new to the Rolex/Tudor world).

Hour hand looks too long, seconds hand tip too short and that dial looks re-finished or faked, case shape is wrong, etc.

linesiders · 21 September 2012, 08:29 AM

Hour hand is wrong, insert is wrong, case back looks wrong, crown guards are wrong - won't get into the colors

I suggest you get your money back.

lhanddds · 21 September 2012, 08:57 AM

I've been told that the second hand diamond should not reach the smaller square plots. You can see the overlap on some pics. Also, I've never seen one this bright blue before.

sierra11b · 21 September 2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lhanddds

I've been told that the second hand diamond should not reach the smaller square plots. You can see the overlap on some pics. Also, I've never seen one this bright blue before.

Good eye on the seconds hand diamond and I was referencing a Tudor Snowflake spotting guide and missed that.

As for color, I agree in that even the most NOS blue versions I've seen never appeared this vivid blue, even with service replacements.

lhanddds · 22 September 2012, 12:12 AM

This watch with these same pics is on Ebay for sale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tudor-Submar...item232215cf75

Lgear080 · 22 September 2012, 12:14 AM

Thought that looked terribly suspect myself. Colors are way off.
I've had some nos blue dials and watches - none of which
Were that specific color.

NYMike · 22 September 2012, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhanddds

This watch with these same pics is on Ebay for sale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tudor-Submar...item232215cf75

The poster owns a store and relisted it on Ebay. Giving him the benefit of doubt, he's mostly dealing Panerai, and probably bought this to resell, and listed it before having it authenticated.

HORNBLOWER · 22 September 2012, 04:06 AM

If its the same one on Ebay it wouldn't be my cup of tea. The case looks brand new with a little manufactured wear applied. The rotor font looks odd to me, but its difficult to tell from the pics. I have never seen a dial in this colour variation, the 9 font on the date wheel looks strange

But I ain't no expite!!!

zama · 23 September 2012, 01:08 PM

I am no guru but have a Tudor Sub and the case back writing on my looks different to this, cant comment to the hands, the colour does look a little odd as well.

21 September 2012, 07:27 AM	#1
jemwatch Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Gary Jemal Location: new jersey Watch: Panerai PAM 372 Posts: 119	Tudor Sub I am told this Tudor Sub I bought is a fake...any Tudor specialists out there??? Thank you, Gary [email protected]

21 September 2012, 07:51 AM	#2
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	Looks good to me but I'd think Dan Pierce would know better. Dan are you out there? __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

21 September 2012, 08:29 AM	#7
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,503	Hour hand is wrong, insert is wrong, case back looks wrong, crown guards are wrong - won't get into the colors I suggest you get your money back. __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

23 September 2012, 01:08 PM	#14
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,808	I am no guru but have a Tudor Sub and the case back writing on my looks different to this, cant comment to the hands, the colour does look a little odd as well. __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

21 September 2012, 07:56 AM	#3
sierra11b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: MkXVIII, 3570.50 Posts: 1,966	The snowflake hour hand looks suspect to me... too small? Take a look at some examples here and notice how the snowflake hour hand appears larger with slightly crisper edges: http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=166036&page=2

21 September 2012, 07:56 AM	#4
Johnny Fever Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Christmas City Posts: 16	Sure looks SW33T!

21 September 2012, 08:26 AM	#5
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	In short I would not buy it.

21 September 2012, 08:26 AM	#6
RTea "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Sub 116610LN Posts: 73	It sure doesn't look right to me (but I am fairly new to the Rolex/Tudor world). Hour hand looks too long, seconds hand tip too short and that dial looks re-finished or faked, case shape is wrong, etc.

21 September 2012, 08:57 AM	#8
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	I've been told that the second hand diamond should not reach the smaller square plots. You can see the overlap on some pics. Also, I've never seen one this bright blue before.

22 September 2012, 12:12 AM	#10
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	This watch with these same pics is on Ebay for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tudor-Submar...item232215cf75

22 September 2012, 12:14 AM	#11
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Thought that looked terribly suspect myself. Colors are way off. I've had some nos blue dials and watches - none of which Were that specific color.

22 September 2012, 04:06 AM	#13
HORNBLOWER "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Ben Location: Ireland Watch: 1 OR 2 Posts: 2,640	If its the same one on Ebay it wouldn't be my cup of tea. The case looks brand new with a little manufactured wear applied. The rotor font looks odd to me, but its difficult to tell from the pics. I have never seen a dial in this colour variation, the 9 font on the date wheel looks strange But I ain't no expite!!!

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