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Old 29 September 2012, 01:54 AM   #1
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Newbie needs help with Sub...Real?
Guys, I am new to Rolex and found one for sale locally, I was sent the following pictures but do not have the knowledge to know what I'm looking at. Any help would be great.
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:03 AM   #2
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Sorry, that watch is not authentic..
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:04 AM   #3
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Sorry, that watch is not authentic..
Way to many ways to tell too its fake... but it wouldn't be best to point them out..

Terrible fake..

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Old 29 September 2012, 02:04 AM   #4
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That's definately a fake...
  • Model number on the green sticker is wrong...
  • Bracelet has solid centre links... the real McCoy doesn't (not the 5-digit reference Sub Date apart from the YG one)..
  • Lugs too fat (broad) and with the wrong type of satination.
  • Hour markers and hands are off, too, as is the font on the dial.
  • LEC (Laser Etched Coronet) is too obvious (visible to the naked eye)..
  • RBR (Rolex Branded Rehaut) and a green sticker don't match (not on this model, although you saw it on the 14060M Z-series)...
  • Coronet on the clasp is looking all wrong.
  • Crown guards are too fat... the crown itself looks off, as well.
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:07 AM   #5
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That's definately a fake...
  • Model number on the green sticker is wrong...
  • Bracelet has solid centre links... the real McCoy doesn't (not the 5-digit reference Sub Date apart from the YG one)..
  • Lugs too fat (broad) and with the wrong type of satination.
  • Hour markers and hands are off, too, as is the font on the dial.
  • LEC (Laser Etched Coronet) is too obvious (visible to the naked eye)..
  • RBR (Rolex Branded Rehaut) and a green sticker don't match (not on this model, although you saw it on the 14060M Z-series)...
  • Coronet on the clasp is looking all wrong.
  • Crown guards are too fat... the crown itself looks off, as well.
or not
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:15 AM   #6
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To answer the OP's original question, yes that is a fake Sub.

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Way to many ways to tell too its fake... but it wouldn't be best to point them out..

Terrible fake..
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That's definately a fake...
  • Model number on the green sticker is wrong...
  • Bracelet has solid centre links... the real McCoy doesn't (not the 5-digit reference Sub Date apart from the YG one)..
  • Lugs too fat (broad) and with the wrong type of satination.
  • Hour markers and hands are off, too, as is the font on the dial.
  • LEC (Laser Etched Coronet) is too obvious (visible to the naked eye)..
  • RBR (Rolex Branded Rehaut) and a green sticker don't match (not on this model, although you saw it on the 14060M Z-series)...
  • Coronet on the clasp is looking all wrong.
  • Crown guards are too fat... the crown itself looks off, as well.
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or not
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:18 AM   #7
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:30 AM   #8
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or not
We posted at the same time, Tom... sorry if listing the signs is not wanted.
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Old 29 September 2012, 02:56 AM   #9
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The sticker is wrong and the lugs are wrong.
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Old 29 September 2012, 03:01 AM   #10
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I think the BOX just might be the real thing, though...

However, the Datejust brochure inside the lid doesn't fit the package, either!
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Old 29 September 2012, 03:07 AM   #11
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We posted at the same time, Tom... sorry if listing the signs is not wanted.
just messing around... its all good..
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Old 29 September 2012, 03:07 AM   #12
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I think the BOX just might be the real thing, though...

However, the Datejust brochure inside the lid doesn't fit the package, either!
thats funny
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Old 29 September 2012, 03:08 AM   #13
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The box is especially a fake and the DJ brochure adds more fuel to the fire. China sells these in a packaged set.
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Old 29 September 2012, 04:14 AM   #14
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Old 29 September 2012, 04:48 AM   #15
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That's definately a fake...
  • Model number on the green sticker is wrong...
  • Bracelet has solid centre links... the real McCoy doesn't (not the 5-digit reference Sub Date apart from the YG one)..
  • Lugs too fat (broad) and with the wrong type of satination.
  • Hour markers and hands are off, too, as is the font on the dial.
  • LEC (Laser Etched Coronet) is too obvious (visible to the naked eye)..
  • RBR (Rolex Branded Rehaut) and a green sticker don't match (not on this model, although you saw it on the 14060M Z-series)...
  • Coronet on the clasp is looking all wrong.
  • Crown guards are too fat... the crown itself looks off, as well.
THATS IT YOU TELL HIM ALL THATS WRONG WITH IT SO THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE FAKES NO WHAT TO LOOK FOR
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Old 29 September 2012, 05:01 AM   #16
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Fake indeed.
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Old 29 September 2012, 05:05 AM   #17
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Old 29 September 2012, 05:14 AM   #18
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thank god I bought from a AD, I would never be able to tell.
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Old 29 September 2012, 05:55 AM   #19
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thank god I bought from a AD, I would never be able to tell.
Same here, I could of been easily fooled too, I couldn't tell! Then again, as everyone says here, buy the seller!
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Old 29 September 2012, 07:39 AM   #20
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There are so many things wrong with this POS Fake!

One is the rounded indent on the bracelet to release the flip down portion of the clasp.

Many, many more.

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Old 29 September 2012, 07:46 AM   #21
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THATS IT YOU TELL HIM ALL THATS WRONG WITH IT SO THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE FAKES NO WHAT TO LOOK FOR
Relax! He didn't even get close to disclosing all the flaws.

How else do people learn to identify a fake as to not get ripped off?

The Fakes will always have flaws.

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Old 29 September 2012, 08:06 AM   #22
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Yup fake as they get...
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Old 29 September 2012, 10:44 AM   #23
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Yes it's fake sorry
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Old 29 September 2012, 04:32 PM   #24
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THATS IT YOU TELL HIM ALL THATS WRONG WITH IT SO THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE FAKES NO WHAT TO LOOK FOR
This is why we have the Classifieds forum. Not everyone has access..............
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Old 29 September 2012, 04:57 PM   #25
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What was the price?
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