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Watchcraze007 · 9 October 2012, 05:53 PM

Self explanatory Subject line ;) Shoot your opinion ;)

thewatchguy93 · 9 October 2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Watchcraze007

Self explanatory Subject line ;) Shoot your opinion ;)

I have to be the first to say.. I'm confused..

Jake B · 9 October 2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dingoo93

I have to be the first to say.. I'm confused..

Isn't it obvious? Rolex loads up on fish and berries so they can sleep through the winter

bayerische · 9 October 2012, 06:31 PM

If you mean that Rolex is a very traditional watchmaker, then you are probably right. This conservatism is also a reason for their success. Easily recognizable watches, decades apart a Sub is still a Sub.

Psmith · 9 October 2012, 06:34 PM

Whatever else Rolex does or doesn't do, at least they don't inflict an endless succession of LE and SE models upon us

Vincent65 · 9 October 2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

Whatever else Rolex does or doesn't do, at least they don't inflict an endless succession of LE and SE models upon us

x2 - I hate those unlimited LEs. Plenty of invention and innovation out of Rolex Geneva since the beginning, too, IMO.

Chris B · 9 October 2012, 06:42 PM

Class is permanent, form is temporary

Andad · 9 October 2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake B

Isn't it obvious? Rolex loads up on fish and berries so they can sleep through the winter

Thread should be moved to the 'jokes' section.

capote · 9 October 2012, 06:54 PM

The Sky-Dweller was pretty innovative, whatever you or I think of the design. As was YM2.

thewatchguy93 · 9 October 2012, 06:55 PM

Bangel · 9 October 2012, 07:04 PM

I don't think Rolex hibernates.

Rather, i think Rolex evolves (albeit slowly) so that their modern incarnations retain the heritage of their ancestors.

This is something I am glad of.

Cru Jones · 9 October 2012, 08:52 PM

please list the ways in which comparable watch brands are being innovative and cutting edge while rolex "hibernates".

mrbill2mrbill2 · 9 October 2012, 09:04 PM

Rolex advances at the speed of a glacier. That's what makes Rolex Rolex. Changing models annually doesn't make a better watch manufacturer. It just dilutes the brand. LEs and SEs are even worse.

cheers:

MrNanni · 9 October 2012, 09:29 PM

I think you mean on innovative and complicated movements. I think rolex is a company that makes the polo shirt of watches. Timeless designs that are rugged and dependable If I want complications then there are a host of great companies out there like patek and AP and IWC etc that will fill that void. I have owned a few from those houses and though fun and interesting I have learned since older that I just need a watch to be durable and stay on my wrist in all the activities I do. Hence the dssd.

toph · 9 October 2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

please list the ways in which comparable watch brands are being innovative and cutting edge while rolex "hibernates".

Would you believe me if I told you that hublot have made an 18kt gold that is about 3 times harder and more scratch resistant than steel for watch cases ?

Speed · 9 October 2012, 10:46 PM

Sorry Toph.

I was hibernating just then. What did you say?

;-)

Zed Homme · 9 October 2012, 10:54 PM

The Porsche 911 must be the king of the bears. I hear what you are saying as Rolex makes minute changes while others redesign their line. Must be tough to be Rolex, after all, how do you improve a perfect product?

capote · 9 October 2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by toph

Would you believe me if I told you that hublot have made an 18kt gold that is about 3 times harder and more scratch resistant than steel for watch cases ?

Yes, Magic Gold...awesome name

Zed Homme · 9 October 2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by toph

Would you believe me if I told you that hublot have made an 18kt gold that is about 3 times harder and more scratch resistant than steel for watch cases ?

This must be the honey gold formula they stole from Lange.

Speed · 9 October 2012, 11:04 PM

When does gold stop being gold? I.e. with various %'s of additives et al...

masterserg · 9 October 2012, 11:12 PM

Sub and GMT C, DSSD, SKD, Explorer 42 .. plenty of hibernation alright ...

Jokes indeed. What is the point of this thread?

Roller07 · 9 October 2012, 11:36 PM

A.Sharp · 9 October 2012, 11:42 PM

Huge progression has taken place, in perfect balance with maintaining rolex's identity. Thank goodness for that though!

I love AP, but look at some of the watches they put out, hublot too. They go toooooo far (IMHO) with many of them, you can get lost, and quite frankly the brand and identity of the watch seems to get lost along the way as well.

Robbie68 · 9 October 2012, 11:43 PM

What about Omega and the Seamaster PO 8500? A great example of what the Sub could have been this time around. The PO retains its heritage while really moving things forward. Rolex are making money by being Rolex and I applaud them for that, I wish I could run my business the same way. I know everyone here loves Rolex but let's be honest they have been one of the least innovative watch companies for some time.

beshannon · 9 October 2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Watchcraze007

Self explanatory Subject line ;) Shoot your opinion ;)
JLC Squadra GMT, IWC 1993 Jubilee Portuguese, Pam372, Pam...

I do not understand the purpose of this post?

esm · 9 October 2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Watchcraze007

Self explanatory Subject line ;) Shoot your opinion ;)

How about sharing your thoughts first.

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Originally Posted by Robbie68

What about Omega and the Seamaster PO 8500? A great example of what the Sub could have been this time around.

PO 8500? 'bout Omega pulls their finger out to add an in-house movement in the PO. Guess the ETA modified co-axial wasn't good enough when Rolex has been using their in-house movement in the Sub models for over 50 years.

Robbie68 · 9 October 2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by esm

PO 8500? 'bout Omega pulls their finger out to add an in-house movement in the PO. Guess the ETA modified co-axial wasn't good enough when Rolex has been using their in-house movement in the Sub models for over 50 years.

Easy fella, just my opinion, they may have used ETA for many years but now they are in house with a very good movement that moves things along significantly. At the end of the day I love Rolex, have owned and do own many, I just don't think they are made by God and perfect in every way.

esm · 9 October 2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie68

Easy fella, just my opinion, they may have used ETA for many years but now they are in house with a very good movement that moves things along significantly. At the end of the day I love Rolex, have owned and do own many, I just don't think they are made by God and perfect in every way.

Of course it is your opinion and we all respect that.

At the end of the day, I believe in - why fix it if it ain't broken. Seem like many watch companies still has not able to establish a winning formula....

robbo · 10 October 2012, 12:03 AM

What is hybernate, never heard of that word.

Frogman4me · 10 October 2012, 12:15 AM

Dear Rolex,

Stick to the original design of the sub as much as possible.

A big Submariner fan,
Frogman4me

9 October 2012, 05:53 PM	#1
Watchcraze007 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Dubai & Cairo Watch: All of'em! Posts: 507	The world creates, while Rolex hybernates! Self explanatory Subject line ;) Shoot your opinion ;)

9 October 2012, 06:31 PM	#4
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	If you mean that Rolex is a very traditional watchmaker, then you are probably right. This conservatism is also a reason for their success. Easily recognizable watches, decades apart a Sub is still a Sub. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

9 October 2012, 06:34 PM	#5
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Whatever else Rolex does or doesn't do, at least they don't inflict an endless succession of LE and SE models upon us __________________

9 October 2012, 06:55 PM	#10
thewatchguy93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: thewatchguy Location: UK Watch: me buy gold.. Posts: 7,441	__________________ Instagram.. @thewatchguy www.thewatchguyofficial.co.uk Got a GREEN Submariner 116610LV.. Visit the official thread here! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=179580 Don't forget to visit the Rolex & Attire thread too! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=215077

9 October 2012, 09:04 PM	#13
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Rolex advances at the speed of a glacier. That's what makes Rolex Rolex. Changing models annually doesn't make a better watch manufacturer. It just dilutes the brand. LEs and SEs are even worse. cheers: __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

9 October 2012, 06:42 PM	#7
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	Class is permanent, form is temporary

9 October 2012, 06:54 PM	#9
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	The Sky-Dweller was pretty innovative, whatever you or I think of the design. As was YM2.

9 October 2012, 07:04 PM	#11
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	I don't think Rolex hibernates. Rather, i think Rolex evolves (albeit slowly) so that their modern incarnations retain the heritage of their ancestors. This is something I am glad of.

9 October 2012, 08:52 PM	#12
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	please list the ways in which comparable watch brands are being innovative and cutting edge while rolex "hibernates".

9 October 2012, 09:29 PM	#14
MrNanni Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CT Posts: 134	I think you mean on innovative and complicated movements. I think rolex is a company that makes the polo shirt of watches. Timeless designs that are rugged and dependable If I want complications then there are a host of great companies out there like patek and AP and IWC etc that will fill that void. I have owned a few from those houses and though fun and interesting I have learned since older that I just need a watch to be durable and stay on my wrist in all the activities I do. Hence the dssd.

9 October 2012, 10:46 PM	#16
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Sorry Toph. I was hibernating just then. What did you say? ;-)

9 October 2012, 10:54 PM	#17
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	The Porsche 911 must be the king of the bears. I hear what you are saying as Rolex makes minute changes while others redesign their line. Must be tough to be Rolex, after all, how do you improve a perfect product?

9 October 2012, 11:04 PM	#20
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	When does gold stop being gold? I.e. with various %'s of additives et al...

9 October 2012, 11:12 PM	#21
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Sub and GMT C, DSSD, SKD, Explorer 42 .. plenty of hibernation alright ... Jokes indeed. What is the point of this thread? __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

9 October 2012, 11:36 PM	#22
Roller07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: GMT -5 Watch: HulkPepsiCoke Posts: 2,364

9 October 2012, 11:42 PM	#23
A.Sharp "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 2,062	Huge progression has taken place, in perfect balance with maintaining rolex's identity. Thank goodness for that though! I love AP, but look at some of the watches they put out, hublot too. They go toooooo far (IMHO) with many of them, you can get lost, and quite frankly the brand and identity of the watch seems to get lost along the way as well. __________________ A.Sharp "I can't listen to that much Wagner, ya know? I start to get the urge to conquer Poland."

9 October 2012, 11:43 PM	#24
Robbie68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NH Watch: SD4K Posts: 492	What about Omega and the Seamaster PO 8500? A great example of what the Sub could have been this time around. The PO retains its heritage while really moving things forward. Rolex are making money by being Rolex and I applaud them for that, I wish I could run my business the same way. I know everyone here loves Rolex but let's be honest they have been one of the least innovative watch companies for some time.

10 October 2012, 12:03 AM	#29
robbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: london Posts: 8	What is hybernate, never heard of that word.

10 October 2012, 12:15 AM	#30
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Dear Rolex, Stick to the original design of the sub as much as possible. A big Submariner fan, Frogman4me

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