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Old 13 October 2012, 11:38 AM   #1
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Submariner 50th Anniversary price check

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I went to go look at a 50th Anniversary Submariner today.It's an F from 2005.How can I tell if it's an original 50th?Is the model numbers different from a regular Submariner?It has no papers but is in mint condition.Is $5,300 cash a good or fair price from a private seller?Thank you for all your help.
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Old 13 October 2012, 11:42 AM   #2
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It should have a green bezel, larger lume plots, broader hour hand and no lugholes.
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If it is truely authentic & mint, that's a good price.
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:02 PM   #4
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It should have a green bezel, larger lume plots, broader hour hand and no lugholes.
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Thanks for your reply.It does have the green bezel.I just want to make sure the owner didn't just have it install.Do you know if the 50th model number on the case is different from a regular 2005 Submariner?What do you think of the price?Thanks again.
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:09 PM   #5
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:10 PM   #6
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If it is truely authentic & mint, that's a good price.
Thanks for your reply.Watch is mint.It just doesn't have paper work.That's why I'm trying to find out.If it's a regular Submariner with a added original green 50th bezel.
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:15 PM   #7
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I Bought Mine For 5 g's In 2006.
5,300.00 Is a Good Deal Today.
Thanks Davey for taking the time to post the picture.Watch is the same as in your picture.
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:23 PM   #8
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I believe the 50th anniversary with have 16610T as the serial number engraved on the case under the SEL link at the 6 o'clock position. Non 50th anniversary case will not have the T. It would read 16610. If the watch case checks out then you have a factory 50th anniversary LV.
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:34 PM   #9
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I believe the 50th anniversary with have 16610T as the serial number engraved on the case under the SEL link at the 6 o'clock position. Non 50th anniversary case will not have the T. It would read 16610. If the watch case checks out then you have a factory 50th anniversary LV.
Thank you so much!!!This was what I was looking for.
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Old 13 October 2012, 01:37 PM   #10
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I believe the 50th anniversary with have 16610T as the serial number engraved on the case under the SEL link at the 6 o'clock position. Non 50th anniversary case will not have the T. It would read 16610. If the watch case checks out then you have a factory 50th anniversary LV.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the T signify that the case does not have lug holes? If so, I would think that other non-anniversary cases would also have the T. But my Sub LV did indeed have the T.


By the way, $5,300 is a good price for a mint condition Sub LV. Just sold my 2005 F serial Sub LV for $6,000 yesterday, with box but no papers.
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Old 13 October 2012, 06:42 PM   #12
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So the regular submariner 2005 black on black will have no T ? and if someone put the green bezel on it and there is no T then it was a retro fit ? Those oem bezels are not cheap either way ..and congrats on the new watch..
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I believe the 50th anniversary with have 16610T as the serial number engraved on the case under the SEL link at the 6 o'clock position. Non 50th anniversary case will not have the T. It would read 16610. If the watch case checks out then you have a factory 50th anniversary LV.
Thats not true all 16610 subs without lugholes will be 16610T including the LV the T is just non lug hole case.The only difference the 16610T LV it has maxi dial slightly wider hands and a green insert plus on the bit of plastic with the bar code its got LV there are no marking on the case.And no matter what the serial if a LV they are all just LV subs nothing more.But now mainly by the Internet hype and many jumping on the hype band waggon.And some asking crazy prices for these watches the prices have risen,but what goes up must come down, the LV in all its forms or serials is not a rare watch.
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Old 13 October 2012, 06:54 PM   #14
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It should have a green bezel, larger lume plots, broader hour hand and no lugholes.
The MINUTE hand is broader, sorry about that. Sounds like a good deal. Pics?
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Old 13 October 2012, 09:11 PM   #15
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Hi,
I went to go look at a 50th Anniversary Submariner today.It's an F from 2005.How can I tell if it's an original 50th?Is the model numbers different from a regular Submariner?It has no papers but is in mint condition.Is $5,300 cash a good or fair price from a private seller?Thank you for all your help.
I have a F that I bought in 2005. It is the normal 16610. It has the T designation as well.

The LV next to it in the display only differed by the larger plots and hands as well as green bezel insert. Oh, and the price was $500 more ($4500). I liked the Maxi dial and hands but not the green so I passed.
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Old 13 October 2012, 10:33 PM   #17
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Thats not true all 16610 subs without lugholes will be 16610T including the LV the T is just non lug hole case.The only difference the 16610T LV it has maxi dial slightly wider hands and a green insert plus on the bit of plastic with the bar code its got LV there are no marking on the case.And no matter what the serial if a LV they are all just LV subs nothing more.But now mainly by the Internet hype and many jumping on the hype band waggon.And some asking crazy prices for these watches the prices have risen,but what goes up must come down, the LV in all its forms or serials is not a rare watch.
Thank you for your reply.It would have been nice if the model numbers on the case were different.I will try to buy it today if it hasn't sold yet.Thank you to everyone that has reply.
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Old 13 October 2012, 10:41 PM   #18
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Hey Viper, 5300 is a damn good price right now. Jump on it while you can if all is up and up. Even if you put it through RSC service for another grand, you'll have a good deal based on the current crazy price.
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Old 13 October 2012, 11:44 PM   #19
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Hey Viper, 5300 is a damn good price right now. Jump on it while you can if all is up and up. Even if you put it through RSC service for another grand, you'll have a good deal based on the current crazy price.
Yes that what I was thinking.I post pictures tomorrow if the deal happens.Thanks again to everyone for the help.
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Old 13 October 2012, 11:53 PM   #20
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the T signify that the case does not have lug holes? If so, I would think that other non-anniversary cases would also have the T. But my Sub LV did indeed have the T.


By the way, $5,300 is a good price for a mint condition Sub LV. Just sold my 2005 F serial Sub LV for $6,000 yesterday, with box but no papers.
Correct the T has to do with the case has nothing to do with the LV model.
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Correct the T has to do with the case has nothing to do with the LV model.
Correct, the T means no holes case.

The price is fair if the watch is in near new condition.
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Old 14 October 2012, 04:24 PM   #22
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Thank you for clarifying. It has been a while for me on the original LV. I haven't worn or seen mine in a long while. Outside the obvious differences such the maxi dial, larger hour markers, fatter hands and green bezel, the only real way to authenticate that it is an original LV sub is to match the serial # to the warranty paperwork and then make sure there is correct Reference # to identify it as an LV, correct?
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Thats not true all 16610 subs without lugholes will be 16610T including the LV the T is just non lug hole case.The only difference the 16610T LV it has maxi dial slightly wider hands and a green insert plus on the bit of plastic with the bar code its got LV there are no marking on the case.And no matter what the serial if a LV they are all just LV subs nothing more.But now mainly by the Internet hype and many jumping on the hype band waggon.And some asking crazy prices for these watches the prices have risen,but what goes up must come down, the LV in all its forms or serials is not a rare watch.
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Old 14 October 2012, 04:40 PM   #23
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Just be sure of what you're buying. Have it checked out if you are unsure. There are some good fakes out there of the LV. Just saying.
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Old 14 October 2012, 10:22 PM   #24
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That's a good price $5300 = 4100 euro. I paid 5500 euro for mine 2 weeks ago. Even without box and papers if it's real go for it.
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I purchased my 2005 "D" LV last month for $6,280 and she was a "Safe Queen." Included from the original owner was all paperwork, boxes, papers, hangtags, all booklets etc.. It even had the Rolex Sticker on the back...verifying it was hardly worn. Also means I probably need to have it serviced! Yeah!


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Thank you for your reply.It would have been nice if the model numbers on the case were different.I will try to buy it today if it hasn't sold yet.Thank you to everyone that has reply.
the LV Sub is just an accessorized regular Sub Date.. There is absolutely no difference between them except the dial, hands and green insert..

The only way to know for sure is if it has some original paperwork showing build data.
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Paperwork is essential but more importantly is the Green Hangtag that came with the watch stating the Serial# and after it "LV." In the future if you are a collector like myself I would expect everything to be in order. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 29 January 2013, 09:17 PM   #28
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How many 50th anniv models do they have? I was in my AD the other day and he was telling me the 50th anniv model has green bezel AND dial. Just curious.
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I have a F that I bought in 2005. It is the normal 16610. It has the T designation as well.

The LV next to it in the display only differed by the larger plots and hands as well as green bezel insert. Oh, and the price was $500 more ($4500). I liked the Maxi dial and hands but not the green so I passed.
Could have bought an extra black bezel for -/+ $100
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How many 50th anniv models do they have? I was in my AD the other day and he was telling me the 50th anniv model has green bezel AND dial. Just curious.
That's the Hulk, 50th was previous model with green bezel and black dial.
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