The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Classifieds > WatchOut!!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 29 October 2012, 02:19 AM   #1
Wing081
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: ontario
Posts: 2
Won a bid on a Rolex ROLEX OYSTER ROYAL PRECISION - I need help!

Hi all. im new to this forum and ive been very interested in buying a rolex only because of the resale value and the name. Normally i dont give a crap about the name, but i really would like to wear something that would be of the same value that i purchased at in 5 years.

The watch that i won is: ROLEX OYSTER ROYAL PRECISION REF 6422 CAL. 1210 17j MENS DRESS WATCH

Price i won it at: C $1,071.41. Shipping: : about 30 dollars.

**Now I dont have a lot of money to spend which is why im only spending about $1000. Do you guys think this is a good watch to hold its value? something that I can sell in 2 years to get my money back, if not more? Did i get lucky on this purchase? There were 47 people bidding on this and this seller has 97% good ebay rating. I am not super happy about the look of the watch but this will do for now until i can buy a better one.






Information from ebay site:
Dial: Classic Rolex Black Dial, marked Rolex Oyster T Swiss T, nice applied hour markers and radium hour, minute and second hand. Dial has been refinished and is in good condition.

Movement: High Grade Rolex cal. 1210 17j manual wind movement , marked Montres Roles SA Geneva Swiss, movement running strong and keeps accurate time, has just been cleaned and serviced which is a $50 value at no cost to you.

Case: Rolex Legendary Oyster Stainless Steel case, measures 37 mm. without crown and 41 mm lug to lug,case has just been buffed and polished and is in good condition.

Manufacture Date: Second quarter of 1961

Bracelet: New aftermarket thick type oyster band, watch will fit a 7 3/4 inch wrist, band is in good condition.

Crystal: New aftermarket acrylic crystal in good condition.

Crown: SS Rolex crown in good condition.

Overall: Watch overall is in good condition.
Wing081 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 02:43 AM   #2
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,060
Its a bit late to ask for help seeing you have bought the watch aftermarket parts in general will not give to a good price return as with any dial re-finish.And in general the OP manual wind are not the most sort after Rolex but they are very reliable watches. Just wear it why worry if you gain or loose on such a low price watch to start with,and would doubt if it had a proper full service for $50.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 02:44 AM   #3
Speed
"TRF" Member
 
Speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 19,706
You are buying a Rolex watch for all the wrong reasons - IMHO.

The watch you are buying is not rare, popular nor will likely be in high demand.

You'd be better off buying Apple stock for investment purposes.
Speed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 02:49 AM   #4
RolexDivers
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: BIG BEAR, CA
Posts: 1,468
There are Seikos out there that will hold their value better than what you are buying.
And yes, definitely too late to be asking these questions now. Not fair to the seller at all.
RolexDivers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 02:54 AM   #5
MrLee
"TRF" Member
 
MrLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Lee
Location: London
Watch: Sub c, smp
Posts: 327
Got a link to it?
MrLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 03:00 AM   #6
Chewbacca
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: CJ
Location: Kashyyyk
Watch: Kessel Run Chrono
Posts: 21,112
the cart before the horse comes to mind...

but having said that, whats done is done...

if the seller has a return policy, you can always return it. if not, you own it.

show us pix upon delivery and we can assist further.
Chewbacca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 03:03 AM   #7
joe100
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
joe100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Real Name: Joe
Location: New Mexico
Watch: Explorer
Posts: 12,840
Photos?
__________________
It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy.
-TRF Member 6982-
joe100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 03:25 AM   #8
vintagewaferthin
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Earth
Watch: Air-King 5500
Posts: 2,620
Can you post some pics?
vintagewaferthin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 03:54 AM   #9
samuel019
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
samuel019's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Real Name: Anthony
Location: Triad
Watch: Me go broke!!!!
Posts: 4,038
Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagewaferthin View Post
can you post some pics?
x2
samuel019 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:02 AM   #10
artschool
"TRF" Member
 
artschool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: uk
Posts: 1,215
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROLEX-OYST...item3f1df58416

I think this is it.
artschool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:09 AM   #11
MrLee
"TRF" Member
 
MrLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Lee
Location: London
Watch: Sub c, smp
Posts: 327
Great watch you have done really well m8, these usually go for £900+

Personally I really like it
MrLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:09 AM   #12
mrbill2mrbill2
"TRF" Member
 
mrbill2mrbill2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Real Name: Mr. Bill
Location: South Florida
Watch: 16610
Posts: 6,148
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed View Post
You are buying a Rolex watch for all the wrong reasons - IMHO.

The watch you are buying is not rare, popular nor will likely be in high demand.

You'd be better off buying Apple stock for investment purposes.
x2!

__________________
Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13
mrbill2mrbill2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:19 AM   #13
wristybusiness
"TRF" Member
 
wristybusiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto
Watch: 14060m
Posts: 74
if you want an solid investment, buy government bonds.

if you want a product whose name you like, buy any ETA movement watch and pay a jeweller to put your name on it.
wristybusiness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:37 AM   #14
77T
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 42,010
Much luck to the OP. Your biggest challenge may be getting it through customs from the Phillipines.

Looks decent enough and the seller has many references mostly fashion watches but a few satisfied Rolex deals.

Agree with others - just wear and enjoy. And log in here to learn more about your vintage Rolex.

BTW, "cleaned and serviced which is a $50 value" means the case and bracelet were cleaned and adjusted - I assure you there was no service, lube nor calibration done on the movement.

If it were me, I would have it opened upon receipt by a certified watchmaker to verify no issues inside. If it looks OK to him/her, then get a pressure test and enjoy!
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:43 AM   #15
MonBK
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kingstown
Posts: 58,279
Considering the watch has a fake bracelet and aftermarket crystal, terrible deal.
MonBK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 04:56 AM   #16
MrLee
"TRF" Member
 
MrLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Lee
Location: London
Watch: Sub c, smp
Posts: 327
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonBK View Post
Considering the watch has a fake bracelet and aftermarket crystal, terrible deal.
Actually didn't read this, yeh not such a good deal...
MrLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 05:29 AM   #17
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,060
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonBK View Post
Considering the watch has a fake bracelet and aftermarket crystal, terrible deal.
Cannot see where its a fake bracelet the add clearly stated the bracelet was aftermarket and being aftermarket does not always mean its a fake.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 05:38 AM   #18
MonBK
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kingstown
Posts: 58,279
Quote:
Originally Posted by padi56 View Post
Cannot see where its a fake bracelet the add clearly stated the bracelet was aftermarket and being aftermarket does not always mean its a fake.
Hhhrm, if clearly stated aftermarket bracelet and it has Rolex stamps and clasp crown what does it make it?
MonBK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 05:45 AM   #19
bungcarlo
"TRF" Member
 
bungcarlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Real Name: Erwin
Location: usa
Watch: Sea Dweller
Posts: 685
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonBK View Post
Hhhrm, if clearly stated aftermarket bracelet and it has Rolex stamps and clasp crown what does it make it?
Where does it say it has Rolex stamps and clasp crown? Maybe I am missing something here!

Seller describes the...
Bracelet: New aftermarket thick type oyster band, watch will fit a 7 3/4 inch wrist, band is in good condition.
bungcarlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 05:51 AM   #20
MonBK
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kingstown
Posts: 58,279
Quote:
Originally Posted by bungcarlo View Post
Where does it say it has Rolex stamps and clasp crown? Maybe I am missing something here!

Seller describes the...
Bracelet: New aftermarket thick type oyster band, watch will fit a 7 3/4 inch wrist, band is in good condition.
How about looking at the pictures?
MonBK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 06:29 AM   #21
jay1988
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Midlands
Posts: 1,515
It's a bit rough around the edges.

Still you're paying £667 for it ? You do get what you pay for.

You are buying a watch that costs around 1/10th of the price of most other Rolex watches.

I think that it's not that bad overall and to be fair, It's quite a lot of watch for £667 (in-house movement, Rolex name etc.)

Just to be clear aftermarket does not have to mean fake .... surprised to hear people saying that. The bracelet is aftermarket Rolex. I can see the Rolex crown on the bracelet in the last picture so if it is fake you have grounds for a refund (assuming the person assessing your claim shares my definition of aftermarket). In my opinion by showing a bracelet that has the Rolex coronet he is saying it is real because saying aftermarket does not mean fake.
jay1988 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 06:55 AM   #22
slcbbrown
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Real Name: steve
Location: dallas area
Watch: 50's TT t-bird
Posts: 3,689
This watch looks very nice and the price is pretty decent for this model. The seller has done a good job of describing the watch, and you should have a very nice watch that you can wear for decades. An aftermarket crystal on a 1961 Rolex is about "par for the course". For $1,000, I doubt that you could do any better, so enjoy your new watch.

To decide whether or not you did something clever, financially, you'll probably have to research sales of comparable Rolex from the early 60's. At this age, your watch won't change value much over the next few years, so if you bought at a good price, you may do just fine.

Last edited by slcbbrown; 29 October 2012 at 06:58 AM.. Reason: spellig
slcbbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 07:25 AM   #23
crowncollection
"TRF" Member
 
crowncollection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: David
Location: australia
Posts: 20,216
price is ok, but the watch is not really going to appreciate in value, i think just enjoy and wear this watch, and then sell it for close to the same money, the band infringes trademark as it has the rolex symbol on the clasp, you can get a correct crystal easy enough, and in vintage a refinished dial is something to generally avoid. I do not believe the watch is serviced, looking at the movement
__________________
watches many
crowncollection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 07:35 AM   #24
dysondiver
"TRF" Member
 
dysondiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Real Name: tom
Location: northern ireland
Watch: my fins
Posts: 10,063
hello , and welcome to the forum , lots of knowledge here ,,, enjoy.
dysondiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 08:36 AM   #25
bungcarlo
"TRF" Member
 
bungcarlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Real Name: Erwin
Location: usa
Watch: Sea Dweller
Posts: 685
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonBK View Post
How about looking at the pictures?
You're right! I agree now that it's a FAKE bracelet!
bungcarlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 08:42 AM   #26
Gary Busey
"TRF" Member
 
Gary Busey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Pothole
Watch: Tudor Black Bay
Posts: 890
Quote:
Originally Posted by wristybusiness View Post
if you want an solid investment, buy government bonds.

if you want a product whose name you like, buy any ETA movement watch and pay a jeweller to put your name on it.
Not a good idea. Negative real return
__________________
Tudor Black Bay Red Rose ETA
Rolex 214270 Explorer 1
Tudor BB 41 Blue Dial
Doxa Sub 200, SKX009
Aquastar Deepstar
Gary Busey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 08:50 AM   #27
77T
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 42,010
Mods - if this is going into a discussion of fakes - then Watch Out is the right place.
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 09:19 AM   #28
Knappo 1307
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Knappo 1307's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Real Name: Jason
Location: USA
Watch: Sea Dweller
Posts: 8,561
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonBK View Post
Hhhrm, if clearly stated aftermarket bracelet and it has Rolex stamps and clasp crown what does it make it?
x2
Knappo 1307 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 10:39 AM   #29
springer
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
springer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: jP
Location: Texas
Watch: GMT-MASTER
Posts: 17,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by padi56 View Post
Cannot see where its a fake bracelet the add clearly stated the bracelet was aftermarket and being aftermarket does not always mean its a fake.
Padi, the seller does state the bracelet is aftermarket but it contains the Rolex trademark coronet on the clasp, and probably more trademarks on the bracelet making it counterfeit. Without their trademarks, I agree that it would be aftermarket.
__________________
Member of NAWCC since 1990.

INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP
Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.
springer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 October 2012, 10:52 AM   #30
rolexgolfer
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 220
Not the best deal IMO, if you really want a watch that will hold its value and is relatively cheap I would stick to a watch that has all original OEM Rolex components, because worst case scenario you can part the watch out.
For example: 1970-80s TT Datejust: Ebay price apx $1900
Bracelet (if in good condition)- $900
Watch head with leather strap- $1200
After seller fees/transaction costs you are right back where you started.
If you dont mind tooling around you can part out the watch even further and recoup more of the cost.
Case- $300
Crystal-$100
Crown-$50
Movement-$1000+
Dial- $100
rolexgolfer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.