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jmusser3r · 31 October 2012, 01:47 AM

Hey guys, I woke up this morning and noticed my Panerai had stopped ticking, which is weird since I wind it every morning when I wake up. But this morning as I was winding it, it was making a really weird noise. I took a video of it and I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out what it may be? It definitely doesn't sound right at all and it was very difficult to wind.

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ocUkRCkNo

Thanks for looking! I realize it's not the best video but if you turn the volume up you will hear what I am talking about.

nauticajoe · 31 October 2012, 02:41 AM

This happened to me a few times with the 233.

Let the watch come to a complete stop, then give it a full wind. Worse case, have a watchmaker take a look at it.

Good luck!

Glenn422 · 31 October 2012, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nauticajoe

This happened to me a few times with the 233.

Let the watch come to a complete stop, then give it a full wind. Worse case, have a watchmaker take a look at it.

Good luck!

Hi Joe

Is that a common thing on the 233? Or is it only yours?

OP, stop winding it and try what Joe said. If it still don't work send it in for service..Dont exacerbate the problem by winding it..

jmusser3r · 31 October 2012, 02:57 AM

Thanks Joe! I'll try that and fingers crossed it works

I would really hate to have to pay for a service already as the watch is only just over 2 years old...the warranty on it just expired last month

MrX · 31 October 2012, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmusser3r

I would really hate to have to pay for a service already as the watch is only just over 2 years old...the warranty on it just expired last month

Things always break just out of warranty!

I think it may be time for a service, though.

Watchmutt · 31 October 2012, 04:55 AM

Doesn't sound good.

rulessapt · 31 October 2012, 04:35 PM

Err, you are doing this without releasing the crown guard?
Forgive me if I'm not interpreting the video correctly.

That sound is sick, as in take it to the watch doctor!

Cheers,
Richard

Psmith · 31 October 2012, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rulessapt

Err, you are doing this without releasing the crown guard?
Forgive me if I'm not interpreting the video correctly.

That sound is sick, as in take it to the watch doctor!

Cheers,
Richard

I wondered about this too, but I think the lever is open (caught a brief glimpse)

The 104 uses an ETA movement, so any competent watchmaker should be able to deal with it

travisb · 31 October 2012, 07:10 PM

Hey Jon -
From the sounds of it, I definately think it's worth a check up.
Keep us posted.

kilyung · 31 October 2012, 11:40 PM

Sounds like the rotor's spinning when you wind it?

nick c · 1 November 2012, 12:40 AM

you need to go see a doctor

jmusser3r · 1 November 2012, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rulessapt

Err, you are doing this without releasing the crown guard?
Forgive me if I'm not interpreting the video correctly.

That sound is sick, as in take it to the watch doctor!

Cheers,
Richard

Definitely not winding it with the crown pushed in, at the 18 second mark in the video you can catch a quick glimpse of the crown released

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

I wondered about this too, but I think the lever is open (caught a brief glimpse)

The 104 uses an ETA movement, so any competent watchmaker should be able to deal with it

Thanks! Only bad news is I live in the middle of no where, so i'll have to do some research to see if there are any competent watchmakers anywhere close to me. If anyone knows of a good watchmaker in Iowa though, i'm all ears

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisb

Hey Jon -
From the sounds of it, I definately think it's worth a check up.
Keep us posted.

Yeah, it definitely doesn't sound good. I'll let you guys know what I find out

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Sounds like the rotor's spinning when you wind it?

That's exactly what it sounds like! I can't figure out what happened though, i set it down every night face up and wind it 20 turns every morning when I wake up. I guess we'll find out soon enough

nauticajoe · 1 November 2012, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn422

Hi Joe

Is that a common thing on the 233? Or is it only yours?

OP, stop winding it and try what Joe said. If it still don't work send it in for service..Dont exacerbate the problem by winding it..

Not that I know of...first time it happened to me.

Travelller · 1 November 2012, 12:23 PM

A 7750 and a P.2002 having the same problem... ? The only thing I could think of is something slipping between the crown and barrel...

Quote:

Originally Posted by nauticajoe

This happened to me a few times with the 233...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

The 104 uses an ETA movement...

Shrinkdial · 1 November 2012, 10:47 PM

Gee I hope it works out.
Fingers crossed for you pal

kilyung · 1 November 2012, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelller

A 7750 and a P.2002 having the same problem... ? The only thing I could think of is something slipping between the crown and barrel...

As the PAM233 doesn't have a rotor, I doubt it's the same issue.

jmusser3r · 2 November 2012, 11:30 AM

Update: I let it wind down until it completely stopped but the problem persist so tomorrow I'm driving down to Kansas city as it is the closest place with a Panerai AD and having there in house watchmakers take a look at it. Hopefully it is something they can take care of relatively easily.

Thanks for all the original feedback and I'll keep you guys updated

kilyung · 2 November 2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmusser3r

Update: I let it wind down until it completely stopped but the problem persist so tomorrow I'm driving down to Kansas city as it is the closest place with a Panerai AD and having there in house watchmakers take a look at it. Hopefully it is something they can take care of relatively easily.

Thanks for all the original feedback and I'll keep you guys updated

Tivol? Make sure you take close-up pics before handing it over. I buy quite a few watches from them but they scratched a watch and I don't service with them anymore.

jmusser3r · 2 November 2012, 11:58 AM

Yepp going with Tivol. I've never bought or serviced a watch with them before but they have always treated me well when i've gone in and visited so I'm going to give them a shot. Thanks for the heads up though! I'll definitely take some close ups now

rulessapt · 2 November 2012, 06:39 PM

Good luck Jon, I hope they're able to advise, rectify and return with speed and accuracy.
Bummer it had to happen, they're mechanical devices made by men and women.

Cheers,
Richard

kilyung · 3 November 2012, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmusser3r

Yepp going with Tivol. I've never bought or serviced a watch with them before but they have always treated me well when i've gone in and visited so I'm going to give them a shot. Thanks for the heads up though! I'll definitely take some close ups now

If you meet Linda (asst mgr) at the Nichols store, tell her Mike from Denver says hi.

jmusser3r · 6 November 2012, 01:02 PM

Update: I dropped the watch off Friday and they told me that it should be about 4-6 weeks until I have the watch back. They said they would have an estimate ready in about 2 weeks then 2-4 weeks of work. A little off topic but also while there, i figured I'd try on a couple pieces. I really loved the 5711 and the platinum DD was a serious hunk of metal!

Shrinkdial · 6 November 2012, 09:55 PM

yes I love the Patek too....

kilyung · 7 November 2012, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmusser3r

Update: I dropped the watch off Friday and they told me that it should be about 4-6 weeks until I have the watch back. They said they would have an estimate ready in about 2 weeks then 2-4 weeks of work. A little off topic but also while there, i figured I'd try on a couple pieces. I really loved the 5711 and the platinum DD was a serious hunk of metal!

Tivol's where my 5711 came from!

jmusser3r · 14 December 2012, 04:05 PM

It's been awhile since i've updated this thread. I got the watch back much quicker than expected about 2.5 weeks ago. I went to wind my watch yesterday, same damn sound!!

I'm going to try and let it wind all the way down again and see if it will change anything but if not I guess it's back down to K.C. with it. I really wish I knew what was going on with it because it sounds like the rotor is rotating when i'm winding the watch..definitely not a good sound but it is keeping decent time by my very non scientific calculations.

Also, I just want to say I keep my watch in my room on its back with the face up and the crown pushed in. I feel like that's a normal way to keep a watch but hell maybe you guys have a different solution that may help keep this problem from coming back.

Final note, my watch was about 2 months out of warranty when I dropped it off but Panerai covered it under warranty. Given it is the same problem do you guys feel that Panerai should pick up the charges again?

Cheers,
Jon

jmusser3r · 18 December 2012, 05:28 PM

Another update: Watch is being overnighted back down to KC to hopefully get a permanent fix this time. Fingers crossed it will be quick as it kills me to be without my only PAM

kilyung · 18 December 2012, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmusser3r

Another update: Watch is being overnighted back down to KC to hopefully get a permanent fix this time. Fingers crossed it will be quick as it kills me to be without my only PAM

You seriously need a backup Panerai.

jmusser3r · 18 December 2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

You seriously need a backup Panerai.

You're not kidding

If the budget allowed for a 372 i'd pick one up right away

jmusser3r · 18 January 2013, 12:04 PM

Mike, it turns out you really weren't kidding about needing a backup Panerai! It has been in KC since Dec. 19th and I just received word from them today that they need to send it into Panerai so it will be another 4-6 weeks plus $600. I am going crazy without my PAM but hopefully next time it comes back to me there will be no more issues for a long while.

kilyung · 18 January 2013, 01:53 PM

Ouch. That's painful. It's one of the reasons why I have so many watches, I rarely miss any if they're off for service.

31 October 2012, 01:47 AM	#1
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	I think there might be something wrong with my PAM Hey guys, I woke up this morning and noticed my Panerai had stopped ticking, which is weird since I wind it every morning when I wake up. But this morning as I was winding it, it was making a really weird noise. I took a video of it and I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out what it may be? It definitely doesn't sound right at all and it was very difficult to wind. Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ocUkRCkNo Thanks for looking! I realize it's not the best video but if you turn the volume up you will hear what I am talking about.

31 October 2012, 02:41 AM	#2
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	This happened to me a few times with the 233. Let the watch come to a complete stop, then give it a full wind. Worse case, have a watchmaker take a look at it. Good luck!

31 October 2012, 02:57 AM	#4
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	Thanks Joe! I'll try that and fingers crossed it works I would really hate to have to pay for a service already as the watch is only just over 2 years old...the warranty on it just expired last month

31 October 2012, 04:55 AM	#6
Watchmutt "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 116600 Posts: 724	Doesn't sound good.

31 October 2012, 04:35 PM	#7
rulessapt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: richard Location: Tasmania Watch: u c Posts: 514	Err, you are doing this without releasing the crown guard? Forgive me if I'm not interpreting the video correctly. That sound is sick, as in take it to the watch doctor! Cheers, Richard

31 October 2012, 07:10 PM	#9
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,485	Hey Jon - From the sounds of it, I definately think it's worth a check up. Keep us posted.

31 October 2012, 11:40 PM	#10
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Sounds like the rotor's spinning when you wind it?

1 November 2012, 12:40 AM	#11
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	you need to go see a doctor

1 November 2012, 10:47 PM	#15
Shrinkdial Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Melbourne Posts: 129	Gee I hope it works out. Fingers crossed for you pal

2 November 2012, 11:30 AM	#17
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	Update: I let it wind down until it completely stopped but the problem persist so tomorrow I'm driving down to Kansas city as it is the closest place with a Panerai AD and having there in house watchmakers take a look at it. Hopefully it is something they can take care of relatively easily. Thanks for all the original feedback and I'll keep you guys updated

2 November 2012, 11:58 AM	#19
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	Yepp going with Tivol. I've never bought or serviced a watch with them before but they have always treated me well when i've gone in and visited so I'm going to give them a shot. Thanks for the heads up though! I'll definitely take some close ups now

2 November 2012, 06:39 PM	#20
rulessapt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: richard Location: Tasmania Watch: u c Posts: 514	Good luck Jon, I hope they're able to advise, rectify and return with speed and accuracy. Bummer it had to happen, they're mechanical devices made by men and women. Cheers, Richard

6 November 2012, 01:02 PM	#22
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	Update: I dropped the watch off Friday and they told me that it should be about 4-6 weeks until I have the watch back. They said they would have an estimate ready in about 2 weeks then 2-4 weeks of work. A little off topic but also while there, i figured I'd try on a couple pieces. I really loved the 5711 and the platinum DD was a serious hunk of metal!

6 November 2012, 09:55 PM	#23
Shrinkdial Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Melbourne Posts: 129	yes I love the Patek too....

14 December 2012, 04:05 PM	#25
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	It's been awhile since i've updated this thread. I got the watch back much quicker than expected about 2.5 weeks ago. I went to wind my watch yesterday, same damn sound!! I'm going to try and let it wind all the way down again and see if it will change anything but if not I guess it's back down to K.C. with it. I really wish I knew what was going on with it because it sounds like the rotor is rotating when i'm winding the watch..definitely not a good sound but it is keeping decent time by my very non scientific calculations. Also, I just want to say I keep my watch in my room on its back with the face up and the crown pushed in. I feel like that's a normal way to keep a watch but hell maybe you guys have a different solution that may help keep this problem from coming back. Final note, my watch was about 2 months out of warranty when I dropped it off but Panerai covered it under warranty. Given it is the same problem do you guys feel that Panerai should pick up the charges again? Cheers, Jon

18 December 2012, 05:28 PM	#26
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	Another update: Watch is being overnighted back down to KC to hopefully get a permanent fix this time. Fingers crossed it will be quick as it kills me to be without my only PAM

18 January 2013, 12:04 PM	#29
jmusser3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jon Location: Iowa Posts: 288	Mike, it turns out you really weren't kidding about needing a backup Panerai! It has been in KC since Dec. 19th and I just received word from them today that they need to send it into Panerai so it will be another 4-6 weeks plus $600. I am going crazy without my PAM but hopefully next time it comes back to me there will be no more issues for a long while.

18 January 2013, 01:53 PM	#30
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Ouch. That's painful. It's one of the reasons why I have so many watches, I rarely miss any if they're off for service.

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