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MYK · 31 December 2012, 01:53 AM

I recently aquired a bnib 216570 from an AD and I absolutely love it. My only concern is the crown, when I pull it out to the time setting position and then back to hour setting, I find a little resistance pulling it back.

Also, it doesn't feel as solid as my previous sub with the triplock crown and there is room for it to wiggle. I have to actually push it while turning to screw it on. Is this normal? Anyone experience the same or shall I take it to RSC to examine? It's BNIB but was the last piece at the AD and was a G serial. So I assume it was on display since 2010 and people try it on.

What do you think? Normal or take it back and check it out?

Thanks,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgqeq...e_gdata_player

bayerische · 31 December 2012, 01:55 AM

The crown on my AP wiggles quite a lot, I can't remember how the crown was on my NEXP2....?

joe100 · 31 December 2012, 02:02 AM

You should have to push it to screw it in. There is a spring inside the crown itself. Quite an elegantly designed piece of engineering.

MYK · 31 December 2012, 02:26 AM

When pushing the crown in half way then pull it back out it gives some resistance. I was next to the RSC and passed by, the technician tool a look and said it needs a fix and will do it on warranty.

samuel019 · 31 December 2012, 02:56 AM

It must feel nice to have a RSC so close to you. Sadly I don't. I was going to say mine does the EXACT same thing. Thought it was normal. I to also own a SubC and can tell a difference between the two. Again I thought it was due to twin lock versus trip lock. I guess you do actually learn something every day! Lol

MYK · 31 December 2012, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by samuel019

It must feel nice to have a RSC so close to you. Sadly I don't. I was going to say mine does the EXACT same thing. Thought it was normal. I to also own a SubC and can tell a difference between the two. Again I thought it was due to twin lock versus trip lock. I guess you do actually learn something every day! Lol

The wiggle part is fine they said, it's just that it gets jammed moving back and forth from time setting mode to quick hour setting. The rest is fine and sure hope yours is also fine. :)

Annan · 31 December 2012, 03:05 AM

I notice similar resistance on my M serial 16570. I have not been concerned about it however because all else is well and the accuracy is amazing.

samuel019 · 31 December 2012, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MYK

The wiggle part is fine they said, it's just that it gets jammed moving back and forth from time setting mode to quick hour setting. The rest is fine and sure hope yours is also fine. :)

Thanks Mohammad. I just grabbed mine and started playing with it just for the heck of it. Mine just seems a little stiff going back and forth but definitely not getting jammed. Thanks for the look out. Hope you get yours back quick.

MYK · 31 December 2012, 03:45 AM

Now I'm having second thoughts and think mine was fine :p I guess I can survive a couple of days without it. :)

Brenngun · 31 December 2012, 05:11 AM

Mohammed, mine is a "G" and did the same thing. I was a little concerned initially but have since learned it's all normal. The spring mechanisim in the crown is a little stiff when new and allows the threads to engage slightly causing the "sticking" you feel when pulling it back out to the third position. Easy solution is to slightly turn the crown toward you as you pull it out. It should easily pull out at that point. After 3 months of multiple crown use and I no longer need to do this. The spring has lost it's initial stiffness and the threads no longer engage on their own.

MYK · 31 December 2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brenngun

Mohammed, mine is a "G" and did the same thing. I was a little concerned initially but have since learned it's all normal. The spring mechanisim in the crown is a little stiff when new and allows the threads to engage slightly causing the "sticking" you feel when pulling it back out to the third position. Easy solution is to slightly turn the crown toward you as you pull it out. It should easily pull out at that point. After 3 months of multiple crown use and I no longer need to do this. The spring has lost it's initial stiffness and the threads no longer engage on their own.

If only I knew this before dropping it off, I hope no serious work will be done on it and I'm sure RSC are competent enough to put everything back together.

TimeOnMyHands · 31 December 2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Annan

I notice similar resistance on my M serial 16570. I have not been concerned about it however because all else is well and the accuracy is amazing.

I have a V serial 16570 and concur on all points.

Brenngun · 31 December 2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MYK

If only I knew this before dropping it off, I hope no serious work will be done on it and I'm sure RSC are competent enough to put everything back together.

Wow your quick on the "get it in for service" draw. I'm sure they won't hurt it but I'd be real interested in what they say was wrong and what they did to correct it (specifically).

Z-Sub · 31 December 2012, 12:10 PM

When mine were new, several had the same tendency. After using the function for a while, they are now just fine.

77T · 31 December 2012, 12:29 PM

Hope it's back in your hands soon and better than new.

Joey_V · 31 December 2012, 05:11 PM

The wiggle is fine.

jbsf3 · 31 December 2012, 07:38 PM

My 216570 has the same crown wiggle, I was also concerned as my 16610 & 116710 both have very solid crowns when unscrewed, but I guess they are more solid due to the trip-lock crowns.

gpfps · 1 January 2013, 12:14 AM

Yes it's normal, but guess it's to late!

31 December 2012, 01:53 AM	#1
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	Explorer II Crown Issues I recently aquired a bnib 216570 from an AD and I absolutely love it. My only concern is the crown, when I pull it out to the time setting position and then back to hour setting, I find a little resistance pulling it back. Also, it doesn't feel as solid as my previous sub with the triplock crown and there is room for it to wiggle. I have to actually push it while turning to screw it on. Is this normal? Anyone experience the same or shall I take it to RSC to examine? It's BNIB but was the last piece at the AD and was a G serial. So I assume it was on display since 2010 and people try it on. What do you think? Normal or take it back and check it out? Thanks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgqeq...e_gdata_player

31 December 2012, 01:55 AM	#2
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	The crown on my AP wiggles quite a lot, I can't remember how the crown was on my NEXP2....? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

31 December 2012, 02:02 AM	#3
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	You should have to push it to screw it in. There is a spring inside the crown itself. Quite an elegantly designed piece of engineering. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

31 December 2012, 02:56 AM	#5
samuel019 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Anthony Location: Triad Watch: Me go broke!!!! Posts: 4,038	It must feel nice to have a RSC so close to you. Sadly I don't. I was going to say mine does the EXACT same thing. Thought it was normal. I to also own a SubC and can tell a difference between the two. Again I thought it was due to twin lock versus trip lock. I guess you do actually learn something every day! Lol __________________ Rolex Collection: A few here and there. Just ask

31 December 2012, 12:10 PM	#14
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	When mine were new, several had the same tendency. After using the function for a while, they are now just fine. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

31 December 2012, 02:26 AM	#4
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	When pushing the crown in half way then pull it back out it gives some resistance. I was next to the RSC and passed by, the technician tool a look and said it needs a fix and will do it on warranty.

31 December 2012, 03:05 AM	#7
Annan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: Arizona, USA Watch: 116233 Posts: 3,180	I notice similar resistance on my M serial 16570. I have not been concerned about it however because all else is well and the accuracy is amazing.

31 December 2012, 03:45 AM	#9
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	Now I'm having second thoughts and think mine was fine :p I guess I can survive a couple of days without it. :)

31 December 2012, 05:11 AM	#10
Brenngun 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: Smokin' Heaven Watch: Rolex & Tudor Posts: 3,866	Mohammed, mine is a "G" and did the same thing. I was a little concerned initially but have since learned it's all normal. The spring mechanisim in the crown is a little stiff when new and allows the threads to engage slightly causing the "sticking" you feel when pulling it back out to the third position. Easy solution is to slightly turn the crown toward you as you pull it out. It should easily pull out at that point. After 3 months of multiple crown use and I no longer need to do this. The spring has lost it's initial stiffness and the threads no longer engage on their own.

31 December 2012, 12:29 PM	#15
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Hope it's back in your hands soon and better than new. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

31 December 2012, 05:11 PM	#16
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	The wiggle is fine. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

31 December 2012, 07:38 PM	#17
jbsf3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: APO Watch: 116610LV Posts: 78	My 216570 has the same crown wiggle, I was also concerned as my 16610 & 116710 both have very solid crowns when unscrewed, but I guess they are more solid due to the trip-lock crowns.

1 January 2013, 12:14 AM	#18
gpfps Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: George Location: Detroit Michigan Watch: 18078 Posts: 1,142	Yes it's normal, but guess it's to late!

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