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chano79 · 14 December 2007, 03:02 PM

Hello expert Rolex Guys!!!!

I'm about to buy a Blue Dial Submariner but I am not sure if is authentic, hopefully you could help me with the pictures Im attaching.

Thanks guys

chano79 · 14 December 2007, 03:04 PM

Paulie · 14 December 2007, 03:13 PM

If you're note sure, don't buy. Period.

The pearl on the bezel looks wrong, and the crown guards are awful pointy. And the date magnification seems weak. And near the 40 on the bezel, is there some gold missing? It seems to follow in all the pics.

But there are others who know better.

Rawhyde · 14 December 2007, 03:27 PM

Have it checked my a watchmaker before laying down any cash, but there are several things about this watch that make me suspicious.

1. Dial indices look a bit large. Almost looks like a Maxi-dial, except there's no such thing as a blue Sub Maxi...

2. The 12 o'clock triangle looks too "short and fat"

3. The printing on the dial doesn't have the "3D" thick printing that mine does.

4. The axle that the second hand mounts to looks a bit too big.

5. The gold ring around the bezel pearl looks too thin.

6. The flutes on the crown don't look quite as distinct as they should be.

I'm not saying that I'm certain it's a fake, but there's enough to make me suspicious. Be very careful.

Rawhyde

Andad · 14 December 2007, 03:36 PM

IMO a Fake.
And not a good fake - if there is such a thing.

Wolfgang427 · 14 December 2007, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

IMO a Fake.
And not a good fake - if there is such a thing.

Agree.

100% fake even with the bad pic's.

Welshwatchman · 14 December 2007, 11:03 PM

How much was the seller asking for this watch?

Tallboy · 15 December 2007, 01:36 AM

"12" marker is WAY off. Fake-o-rama.

Defiancekofb · 15 December 2007, 01:47 AM

Like the previous posters have said, you have to get authentication on this timepiece. But, the real question is, how much is the seller offering you for the watch? If the price is too good to be true, then for obvious reasons it's probably fake then.

Letsgodiving · 15 December 2007, 01:59 AM

The triangle at 12 is off center. Also the triangle and pearl is all wrong. Looks fake to me.

JJ Irani · 15 December 2007, 02:26 AM

Genuine fake - don't touch it with a barge pole!!

frostie · 15 December 2007, 03:00 AM

IMO opinion fake. It looks that the dial is a maxi dial and also the date font and especially number 3 looks strange to me. The dot on the bezel doesnt is not ok for sure

Ed Rooney · 15 December 2007, 03:30 AM

bad fake

Tools · 15 December 2007, 04:37 AM

Sorry Chano.

That one is just not the real deal .....

Tomi · 15 December 2007, 07:02 AM

Where was this offered for sale, or by whom?

dallasdan · 15 December 2007, 07:14 AM

I'd be more concerned about the authenticity of my camera lens.

Tomi · 15 December 2007, 07:33 AM

I wouldn't.

chano79 · 15 December 2007, 11:28 AM

Thanks a lot Guys!!!

I show all this comments to this seller and he ran away.

Thank you so much

SSD · 15 December 2007, 11:34 AM

More reason for the buyer to beware: It DOES have some sort of laser etched coronet, but the photos don't give a lot of detail on that spot. Difficult to judge its quality, it would be good informaton for future reference. Something else to be concerned about, so take good care!

14 December 2007, 03:02 PM	#1
chano79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: magneeleVE Location: Usa Watch: magneeleVE Posts: 3	HELP!! Authentic Submariner???? Hello expert Rolex Guys!!!! I'm about to buy a Blue Dial Submariner but I am not sure if is authentic, hopefully you could help me with the pictures Im attaching. Thanks guys

14 December 2007, 03:04 PM	#2
chano79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: magneeleVE Location: Usa Watch: magneeleVE Posts: 3	Another Picture

14 December 2007, 03:13 PM	#3
Paulie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicagoland Watch: GMTII and OP! Posts: 1,272	If you're note sure, don't buy. Period. The pearl on the bezel looks wrong, and the crown guards are awful pointy. And the date magnification seems weak. And near the 40 on the bezel, is there some gold missing? It seems to follow in all the pics. But there are others who know better. __________________

14 December 2007, 03:36 PM	#5
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	IMO a Fake. And not a good fake - if there is such a thing. __________________ E

14 December 2007, 11:03 PM	#7
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	How much was the seller asking for this watch? __________________ ..33

14 December 2007, 03:27 PM	#4
Rawhyde Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Craig Location: NW Georgia Watch: Blue Sub+Tud Chron Posts: 834	Have it checked my a watchmaker before laying down any cash, but there are several things about this watch that make me suspicious. 1. Dial indices look a bit large. Almost looks like a Maxi-dial, except there's no such thing as a blue Sub Maxi... 2. The 12 o'clock triangle looks too "short and fat" 3. The printing on the dial doesn't have the "3D" thick printing that mine does. 4. The axle that the second hand mounts to looks a bit too big. 5. The gold ring around the bezel pearl looks too thin. 6. The flutes on the crown don't look quite as distinct as they should be. I'm not saying that I'm certain it's a fake, but there's enough to make me suspicious. Be very careful. Rawhyde

15 December 2007, 01:36 AM	#8
Tallboy Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chuck Location: Venice, Florida Watch: 07 Air King Posts: 125	"12" marker is WAY off. Fake-o-rama.

15 December 2007, 01:47 AM	#9
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	Like the previous posters have said, you have to get authentication on this timepiece. But, the real question is, how much is the seller offering you for the watch? If the price is too good to be true, then for obvious reasons it's probably fake then.

15 December 2007, 01:59 AM	#10
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,319	The triangle at 12 is off center. Also the triangle and pearl is all wrong. Looks fake to me.

15 December 2007, 02:26 AM	#11
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Genuine fake - don't touch it with a barge pole!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

15 December 2007, 03:00 AM	#12
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	IMO opinion fake. It looks that the dial is a maxi dial and also the date font and especially number 3 looks strange to me. The dot on the bezel doesnt is not ok for sure

15 December 2007, 03:30 AM	#13
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	bad fake

15 December 2007, 04:37 AM	#14
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Sorry Chano. That one is just not the real deal .....

15 December 2007, 07:02 AM	#15
Tomi Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Tomi Location: Finland Posts: 165	Where was this offered for sale, or by whom?

15 December 2007, 07:14 AM	#16
dallasdan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 36	I'd be more concerned about the authenticity of my camera lens. __________________ DallasDan Rolex Explorer II 216570 IWC Pilot Chronograph 371701 Omega Seamaster 120

15 December 2007, 07:33 AM	#17
Tomi Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Tomi Location: Finland Posts: 165	I wouldn't.

15 December 2007, 11:28 AM	#18
chano79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: magneeleVE Location: Usa Watch: magneeleVE Posts: 3	Thanks a lot Guys!!! I show all this comments to this seller and he ran away. Thank you so much

15 December 2007, 11:34 AM	#19
SSD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jamie Location: Georgia Watch: Stainless Sub Date Posts: 3,023	More reason for the buyer to beware: It DOES have some sort of laser etched coronet, but the photos don't give a lot of detail on that spot. Difficult to judge its quality, it would be good informaton for future reference. Something else to be concerned about, so take good care! __________________ SUBMARINER OWNERS' CLUB ESTABLISHED 1953 TRF Member # 5464

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