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Calc · 8 February 2013, 04:34 AM

Good day all, I've been browsing these forums for a while, and decided to make an account today. I got a Sub-C for myself as a graduation gift. The idea of getting myself this gift helped me through my 4 years of Engineering, and I've never been this happy!

Now onto my question:

I'm looking to get a NATO band for my watch, and I've read about all the tools you can get, and which ones are recommended... but being an Engineer, I tend to be somewhat resourceful. I know I can use a mechanical pencil to move the spring bars out of place, but I'm not sure how they can be installed after removing the bracelet. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks for your help :)

montpyt · 8 February 2013, 04:45 PM

I'm no expert, but the Sub C does not have lug holes. The spring bars are recessed on the underside of the face. I'm not sure you can use that to remove the spring bar.

mmmk604 · 8 February 2013, 05:19 PM

You can use something flat to pop the spring bars back into the lugs after.

I highly suggest u spend $10-30 on a spring bar tool. I have the Bergeon 6767F.

Psmith · 8 February 2013, 06:01 PM

Welcome and congrats

AK797 · 8 February 2013, 11:03 PM

Id get a spring bar tool or jewelry screwdriver but any 1mm or whatever the actual size required, object will do to push back the spring bar.

gpfps · 8 February 2013, 11:11 PM

It's going to hard . You have to push in one side keep it in the push the other side in with the other hand, and then move the bracelet .

kilyung · 9 February 2013, 12:05 AM

Put in one side of the springbar. Cover the other side with a thin hard card (bus pass works great). Push the other springbar end into place and remove the bus pass. Done and no possibility of scratches to the lugs.

kilyung · 9 February 2013, 12:07 AM

Oh as an engineer you should know to get the right tool for removing the bars. Either a Bergeon 6111 or 6767.

mjclark32 · 9 February 2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Oh as an engineer you should know to get the right tool for removing the bars. Either a Bergeon 6111 or 6767.

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Welcome and congrats!

VADanno · 9 February 2013, 12:33 AM

Where do you buy your watch tools? Best online source?

kilyung · 9 February 2013, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by VADanno

Where do you buy your watch tools? Best online source?

Ofrei

Armyguy03 · 9 February 2013, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Ofrei

Pretty fast shipping too. I ordered a few things from them myself just last week.

globalmedia33 · 9 February 2013, 12:43 AM

Congrats.

psv · 9 February 2013, 01:44 AM

Congrats. Sure you can use a pen, I've even used saftey pins. Whatever works for you.

You might want to put a heavy duty tape on the lugs before changing the bracelet/strap, it is easy to put some serious marks on the case, especially if you haven't done it before.

Thatguy · 9 February 2013, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Oh as an engineer you should know to get the right tool for removing the bars. Either a Bergeon 6111 or 6767.

I would agree, why risk a scratch that will drive you nuts? It's easy to switch out with one of those tools.

paracord · 9 February 2013, 05:51 AM

Get a good springbar tool!

The Bergeon 6111 is perfect. One end for the bracelet and the other end in case you get a leather strap.

You spent big bucks on your watch. Don't change spring bars with a pencil!

TSW · 9 February 2013, 05:56 AM

Congrats!

cbehnke1672 · 9 February 2013, 06:48 AM

the Bergeon 6825 tool squeezes BOTH sides of the spring bar at once. It's a bit easier to use IMO, and I have used it on 16610

Trouble15 · 9 February 2013, 07:47 AM

Congrats!

Hairdude1 · 9 February 2013, 02:43 PM

Congrats!

SOREN81 · 10 February 2013, 02:05 AM

Congrats!!!!

Calc · 10 February 2013, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Oh as an engineer you should know to get the right tool for removing the bars. Either a Bergeon 6111 or 6767.

I looked into those models, I think I will go for one since I need to remove a link from my bracelet anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

Congrats. Sure you can use a pen, I've even used saftey pins. Whatever works for you.

You might want to put a heavy duty tape on the lugs before changing the bracelet/strap, it is easy to put some serious marks on the case, especially if you haven't done it before.

Thanks for the advice!

Quote:

Originally Posted by paracord

Get a good springbar tool!

The Bergeon 6111 is perfect. One end for the bracelet and the other end in case you get a leather strap.

You spent big bucks on your watch. Don't change spring bars with a pencil!

Very true. I have steady hands and take great precautions (deal with small electronics all the time), but there's still that slight chance of messing up... Lol.

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Congrats!

Thanks for all the congrats guys! I'll be posting here more often and will keep you guys updateith pictures.

Calc · 3 March 2013, 05:38 AM

Just received and installed my NATO strap. I decided to go with toothpicks to remove the spring bars, and it literally took 15 seconds. I suppose I have a knack for these things

I'll get some pictures up when I get a hold of a camera.

Rolex360 · 3 March 2013, 12:03 PM

any pictures of the beauty ?

landroverking · 3 March 2013, 01:04 PM

Congrats

8 February 2013, 04:34 AM	#1
Calc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 4	Bought a new Sub-C Good day all, I've been browsing these forums for a while, and decided to make an account today. I got a Sub-C for myself as a graduation gift. The idea of getting myself this gift helped me through my 4 years of Engineering, and I've never been this happy! Now onto my question: I'm looking to get a NATO band for my watch, and I've read about all the tools you can get, and which ones are recommended... but being an Engineer, I tend to be somewhat resourceful. I know I can use a mechanical pencil to move the spring bars out of place, but I'm not sure how they can be installed after removing the bracelet. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks for your help :)

8 February 2013, 06:01 PM	#4
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9 February 2013, 06:48 AM	#18
cbehnke1672 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Montpelier, VT Posts: 34	Bergeon 6825 May be better the Bergeon 6825 tool squeezes BOTH sides of the spring bar at once. It's a bit easier to use IMO, and I have used it on 16610

8 February 2013, 04:45 PM	#2
montpyt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Shawn Location: WPB, FL Watch: 116610LV "HULK" Posts: 1,095	I'm no expert, but the Sub C does not have lug holes. The spring bars are recessed on the underside of the face. I'm not sure you can use that to remove the spring bar.

8 February 2013, 05:19 PM	#3
mmmk604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,594	You can use something flat to pop the spring bars back into the lugs after. I highly suggest u spend $10-30 on a spring bar tool. I have the Bergeon 6767F.

8 February 2013, 11:03 PM	#5
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Id get a spring bar tool or jewelry screwdriver but any 1mm or whatever the actual size required, object will do to push back the spring bar.

8 February 2013, 11:11 PM	#6
gpfps Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: George Location: Detroit Michigan Watch: 18078 Posts: 1,142	It's going to hard . You have to push in one side keep it in the push the other side in with the other hand, and then move the bracelet .

9 February 2013, 12:05 AM	#7
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Put in one side of the springbar. Cover the other side with a thin hard card (bus pass works great). Push the other springbar end into place and remove the bus pass. Done and no possibility of scratches to the lugs.

9 February 2013, 12:07 AM	#8
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Oh as an engineer you should know to get the right tool for removing the bars. Either a Bergeon 6111 or 6767.

9 February 2013, 12:33 AM	#10
VADanno "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Dan Location: Austin, TX Watch: Rolex Turn-O-Graph Posts: 408	Where do you buy your watch tools? Best online source?

9 February 2013, 01:44 AM	#14
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Congrats. Sure you can use a pen, I've even used saftey pins. Whatever works for you. You might want to put a heavy duty tape on the lugs before changing the bracelet/strap, it is easy to put some serious marks on the case, especially if you haven't done it before.

9 February 2013, 05:51 AM	#16
paracord Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: The US of A! Posts: 78	Get a good springbar tool! The Bergeon 6111 is perfect. One end for the bracelet and the other end in case you get a leather strap. You spent big bucks on your watch. Don't change spring bars with a pencil!

9 February 2013, 07:47 AM	#19
Trouble15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: USA Watch: A few Posts: 8,884	Congrats!

9 February 2013, 02:43 PM	#20
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10 February 2013, 02:05 AM	#21
SOREN81 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Doug Location: Omaha NE Watch: 14060 Posts: 19	Nice Congrats!!!!

3 March 2013, 05:38 AM	#23
Calc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 4	Just received and installed my NATO strap. I decided to go with toothpicks to remove the spring bars, and it literally took 15 seconds. I suppose I have a knack for these things I'll get some pictures up when I get a hold of a camera.

3 March 2013, 12:03 PM	#24
Rolex360 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Rolex City Posts: 66	any pictures of the beauty ?

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