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Lrd2sea · 15 February 2013, 05:15 AM

Well, never know I will start one on these one day, but here we go,..

Visited a dear old friend in BCN. She knew I like watches, hence asked me if I can help her find a place to fix her Rolex.
It was given to her 40 +/- yrs ago, by a good friend as a present for family event.

Seemed to me the buckle was stretched open (she told me it was caught at the alum. door frame). Probably not difficult to bend it back to shape.
But material fatigue could be a concern. Does anyone know where I can have it fixed? The watch is currently in Barcelona.
Shall I bother to send it to Michael Young? As I also think the stretched bracelet can use a bit of re-conditioning.

Upon further inspection, though, I started to wonder if it is authentic.
I am not an expert, by all means. But the case back seemed off to me. Below are the photos:

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping for the best,...

APguy1 · 15 February 2013, 06:15 AM

Fake, sorry.

JohnBoy · 15 February 2013, 06:17 AM

The pics/lighting are a bit rough - but it does looks like a pretty good example of an older ladies Date to me. You might want an additional opinion, or two, but if approved, I think I'd send it Michael Young as you noted. Its not the latest Rolex stainless, but all of these watch grades tend to harden quickly and become brittle when cold worked (in this case, permanently bent). Chances are, it will fail during the reforming unless its annealed - and then it may be too far gone for that to work. MY can probably set it right for you - perhaps by replacement - and rework the stretch out of the rest of the bracelet. Good Luck!

Mickey® · 15 February 2013, 06:29 AM

The head appears to be real to me...

Watchdog · 15 February 2013, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenman63

Fake, sorry.

Based on?

JPersat · 15 February 2013, 06:41 AM

The watch and bracelet look good. I have heard Michael Young is phenomenal when it comes to bracelet reconditioning. And if the watch need a service, I would send it to Dalton Toledo in Los Angeles. If the bracelet needs to be replaced, Steve Mulholland can find a very good condition period folded link bracelet at a reasonable price.

JPersat · 15 February 2013, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkongkelley

based on?

x2!

Mickey® · 15 February 2013, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkongkelley

Based on?

Yeah...I'm waiting to see what his "eye" caught by looking at it for 9 seconds like I did that I didn't/don't see!

crowncollection · 15 February 2013, 07:24 AM

the watch looks a bit beat up but certainly real, it really depends on what you want to spend, this part is quite available from rolex or even maybe a AD, any good watchmaker could fit it, the watch cetainly needs a good clean up and polish but its up to you as a full restore may cost more than half what the watch is worth. I would likely just have a go at bending it back with flat heat pliers and a bit of heat first, it stuffed anyway so nothing to lose, if not then let a watchmaker fit the new part and ask for a polish at the same time.

tudorman8276 · 15 February 2013, 07:26 AM

...watch and band are genuine.

...albeit, the dial appears to be newer?? David should be able to address the dial.

...the early ladies watches had that exact stampings on the case back.

...likewise, the band is an early "rolled link" Jubilee.

...just need to get the band repaired.

...any competent jeweler can make the part needed out of other pieces.

...hope this helps.

Lrd2sea · 15 February 2013, 12:00 PM

Thanks for all the constructive opinions!

I am soooo relived to learn that this seem to be genuine. It will of course remain a secret if it's not, as I don't see a point to break this news to a loving 72-year-old lady.

Can any one name the dial or the model # of this watch? I had my camera at that time, but battery was untimingly out, hence the phone photos.

The dial has not been changed, I am quite positive of that. She does not have the means nor the nee to replace it. I will search for Michael Young's info and send the watch his way. Hopefully it won't take too long.

tudorman8276 · 15 February 2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lrd2sea

Thanks for all the constructive opinions!

I am soooo relived to learn that this seem to be genuine. It will of course remain a secret if it's not, as I don't see a point to break this news to a loving 72-year-old lady.

Can any one name the dial or the model # of this watch? I had my camera at that time, but battery was untimingly out, hence the phone photos.

The dial has not been changed, I am quite positive of that. She does not have the means nor the nee to replace it. I will search for Michael Young's info and send the watch his way. Hopefully it won't take too long.

...have the same watchmaker/jeweler that repairs the band to remove the band from both ends of the watch.

...at 12 o'clock you will see the model#. (FYI, the mdl# will be something like 6917 etc.)

...at 6 o'clock you will see the serial number (record it).

Lrd2sea · 15 February 2013, 12:57 PM

Cheers!

jatco · 15 February 2013, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey®

Yeah...I'm waiting to see what his "eye" caught by looking at it for 9 seconds like I did that I didn't/don't see!

Exactly.. ..!! - Always good to read On....!! - bcoz others may have more to offer...!!

crowncollection · 15 February 2013, 08:35 PM

Model is 6517. :thumbup:
The serial is important that model ran for a long time.

joseluu · 15 February 2013, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey®

Yeah...I'm waiting to see what his "eye" caught by looking at it for 9 seconds like I did that I didn't/don't see!

We all make mistakes. At least I have made some.

Thank God we are many.

andromeda160 · 15 February 2013, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseluu

We all make mistakes. At least I have made some.

Thank God we are many.

I think it's the fact that he's got 20 posts, called it a fake, and really didn't know what he was talking about. Or support his reply with evidence.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 16 February 2013, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andromeda160

I think it's the fact that he's got 20 posts, called it a fake, and really didn't know what he was talking about. Or support his reply with evidence.

I believe he didn't realize it was an older ladies model and the case back engraving threw him off.

SkyKing31 · 16 February 2013, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenman63

Fake, sorry.

Sorry, but the watch is real.

Mickey® · 16 February 2013, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseluu

We all make mistakes. At least I have made some.

Thank God we are many.

I didn't say he was wrong...I was waiting to hear what he had to say about why it was a Fakearoo.

jatco · 16 February 2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing31

Sorry, but the watch is real.

...and your diagnosis is...??

bayerische · 16 February 2013, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenman63

Fake, sorry.

Real, sorry!

15 February 2013, 05:15 AM	#1
Lrd2sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: everywhere Posts: 252	Where can I have this fixed?..and is it real? Well, never know I will start one on these one day, but here we go,.. Visited a dear old friend in BCN. She knew I like watches, hence asked me if I can help her find a place to fix her Rolex. It was given to her 40 +/- yrs ago, by a good friend as a present for family event. Seemed to me the buckle was stretched open (she told me it was caught at the alum. door frame). Probably not difficult to bend it back to shape. But material fatigue could be a concern. Does anyone know where I can have it fixed? The watch is currently in Barcelona. Shall I bother to send it to Michael Young? As I also think the stretched bracelet can use a bit of re-conditioning. Upon further inspection, though, I started to wonder if it is authentic. I am not an expert, by all means. But the case back seemed off to me. Below are the photos: Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping for the best,...

15 February 2013, 07:24 AM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	the watch looks a bit beat up but certainly real, it really depends on what you want to spend, this part is quite available from rolex or even maybe a AD, any good watchmaker could fit it, the watch cetainly needs a good clean up and polish but its up to you as a full restore may cost more than half what the watch is worth. I would likely just have a go at bending it back with flat heat pliers and a bit of heat first, it stuffed anyway so nothing to lose, if not then let a watchmaker fit the new part and ask for a polish at the same time. __________________ watches many

15 February 2013, 07:26 AM	#10
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...hmmm... ...watch and band are genuine. ...albeit, the dial appears to be newer?? David should be able to address the dial. ...the early ladies watches had that exact stampings on the case back. ...likewise, the band is an early "rolled link" Jubilee. ...just need to get the band repaired. ...any competent jeweler can make the part needed out of other pieces. ...hope this helps.

15 February 2013, 08:35 PM	#15
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Model is 6517. :thumbup: The serial is important that model ran for a long time. __________________ watches many

15 February 2013, 06:15 AM	#2
APguy1 Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Olly Location: UK Watch: Sub C 116610 Posts: 256	Fake, sorry.

15 February 2013, 06:17 AM	#3
JohnBoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: John Location: Seattle, WA USA Watch: Rolex - a few! Posts: 1,472	The pics/lighting are a bit rough - but it does looks like a pretty good example of an older ladies Date to me. You might want an additional opinion, or two, but if approved, I think I'd send it Michael Young as you noted. Its not the latest Rolex stainless, but all of these watch grades tend to harden quickly and become brittle when cold worked (in this case, permanently bent). Chances are, it will fail during the reforming unless its annealed - and then it may be too far gone for that to work. MY can probably set it right for you - perhaps by replacement - and rework the stretch out of the rest of the bracelet. Good Luck!

15 February 2013, 06:29 AM	#4
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	The head appears to be real to me...

15 February 2013, 06:41 AM	#6
JPersat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Jarrett Location: San Antonio TX Watch: ing everybody Posts: 1,515	The watch and bracelet look good. I have heard Michael Young is phenomenal when it comes to bracelet reconditioning. And if the watch need a service, I would send it to Dalton Toledo in Los Angeles. If the bracelet needs to be replaced, Steve Mulholland can find a very good condition period folded link bracelet at a reasonable price.

15 February 2013, 12:00 PM	#11
Lrd2sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: everywhere Posts: 252	Thanks for all the constructive opinions! I am soooo relived to learn that this seem to be genuine. It will of course remain a secret if it's not, as I don't see a point to break this news to a loving 72-year-old lady. Can any one name the dial or the model # of this watch? I had my camera at that time, but battery was untimingly out, hence the phone photos. The dial has not been changed, I am quite positive of that. She does not have the means nor the nee to replace it. I will search for Michael Young's info and send the watch his way. Hopefully it won't take too long.

15 February 2013, 12:57 PM	#13
Lrd2sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: everywhere Posts: 252	Cheers!

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