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Old 28 March 2013, 02:42 AM   #1
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Rolex Submariner 1680 (1980) is vintage?
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Old 28 March 2013, 02:54 AM   #2
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Old 28 March 2013, 02:57 AM   #3
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I would say so, yes.
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Old 28 March 2013, 02:58 AM   #4
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Do you think that a 30 + y/o watch could not be vintage?

Of course it is.
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Old 28 March 2013, 03:05 AM   #5
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6m serial + acrylic crystal + matt dial + no white gold surrounds + lug holes + end links + patina + silver date wheel = vintage
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Old 28 March 2013, 11:15 AM   #6
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6m serial + acrylic crystal + matt dial + no white gold surrounds + lug holes + end links + patina + silver date wheel = vintage
Puff, I'm confused again! What about all the white date wheel Rolexes that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear after the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

I also like the sapphire crystal, matte-dialed Submariners, model 16800, and consider it vintage as well as the acrylic crystal GMT 16750 with gold surround markers. My rule-of-thumb now is vintage should be 30-years-old, or very close.
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Old 28 March 2013, 11:18 AM   #7
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6m serial + acrylic crystal + matt dial + no white gold surrounds + lug holes + end links + patina + silver date wheel = vintage
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What about all the white date wheels that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear around the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

also qualify
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Old 28 March 2013, 11:21 AM   #8
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IMHO any four number model would be vintage.
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Old 28 March 2013, 12:27 PM   #9
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IMHO any four number model would be vintage.
Yes I agree 4 digit and plexi = vintage.
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Old 28 March 2013, 09:57 PM   #10
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Old 28 March 2013, 10:55 PM   #11
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Puff, I'm confused again! What about all the white date wheel Rolexes that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear after the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

I also like the sapphire crystal, matte-dialed Submariners, model 16800, and consider it vintage as well as the acrylic crystal GMT 16750 with gold surround markers. My rule-of-thumb now is vintage should be 30-years-old, or very close.
my list wasn't exhaustive, just a sample of the things to look for

i also think a matte dial sapphire SD is vintage
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Old 28 March 2013, 11:00 PM   #12
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Puff, I'm confused again! What about all the white date wheel Rolexes that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear after the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

I also like the sapphire crystal, matte-dialed Submariners, model 16800, and consider it vintage as well as the acrylic crystal GMT 16750 with gold surround markers. My rule-of-thumb now is vintage should be 30-years-old, or very close.
my list wasn't exhaustive, just a sample of the things to look for

i also think a matte dial sapphire SD is vintage
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Old 28 March 2013, 11:24 PM   #13
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Is my DD from 1980 64 ser# but has non plexy ?
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Old 28 March 2013, 11:37 PM   #14
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anything with a matte dial is vintage. non-matte 16800s and 16750s are toss ups.
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Is my DD from 1980 64 ser# but has non plexy ?
i'd say it is
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my list wasn't exhaustive, just a sample of the things to look for

i also think a matte dial sapphire SD is vintage
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Old 29 March 2013, 01:21 AM   #17
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IMHO any four number model would be vintage.
What about five-digit models with acrylic crystals? I'd say those are vintage, too, but agree it's debatable.
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Old 29 March 2013, 05:40 AM   #18
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Anything is vintage. By definition it means of a certain year. The English language has given it a second meaning of old or classic.
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Old 29 March 2013, 06:33 AM   #19
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How about an Oyster Perpetual Date 15000 model, purchased in 1987, with an acrylic dial, would that be classed as vintage?

BTW - Great forum, lots of helpful advice and interesting topics!

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Old 29 March 2013, 10:21 PM   #21
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anything with a matte dial is vintage. non-matte 16800s and 16750s are toss ups.
This is my rule of thumb as well for Rolex. If it came originally with a matte dial when it shipped from Rolex (whether it has a replacement gloss dial or not) it is classified as vintage.

Tudor's are more difficult to judge. Especially Subs as they had matte dials and acrylic crystals all the way into the 90's. FOr those I'd say lollipop hand 76100 and earlier are vintage.
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