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coolivan25 · 4 January 2008, 08:43 AM

Sorry guys, I am a Rolex NOOB, I Also saw this Rolex on Ebay. Is it a good price to purchase this watch? Also it is Authentic?

thanks again guys!!~

Ebay site:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Rolex-50th-Annive...QQcmdZViewItem

SPACE-DWELLER · 4 January 2008, 08:47 AM

Welcome to TRF!

Andad · 4 January 2008, 04:20 PM

There is something about the 'etched' crown in that crystal that bothers me. I would pass if I were you.

scottschoe · 4 January 2008, 04:48 PM

Pass.

jordo9998 · 4 January 2008, 05:11 PM

no... it's real. I can tell by the clasp... poor pics is all... take it or leave it but it is 100% real. I know more detail about fakes than anyone and no matter how good a fake is, I can always tell my the clasp where it dents in for your nail to flip the latch. this one is legit.

frostie · 4 January 2008, 05:17 PM

There is something wrong with the pearl. It doesn't seem ok to me. Also the laser etching can be seen in all pics. Personally i think that it is a fake.

scottschoe · 4 January 2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordo9998

no... it's real. I can tell by the clasp... poor pics is all... take it or leave it but it is 100% real. I know more detail about fakes than anyone and no matter how good a fake is, I can always tell my the clasp where it dents in for your nail to flip the latch. this one is legit.

frostie · 4 January 2008, 05:21 PM

Here is a pic of the genuine watch. The laser etching seems off center also. Check how the pearl looks like at a genuine watch

cbsmohai · 4 January 2008, 05:29 PM

The etching looks mighty big on that watch. There was a thread earlier where one was shown with a macro lens. Didn't look anything like that.

jimroe · 4 January 2008, 09:55 PM

I agree - the LEC looks big; it also looks crooked - but more disconcerting is that it's visible in the first place. The way that photograph is lit you shouldn't be able to see the LEC at all. And - the pearl also doesn't look right either.

bagel · 5 January 2008, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

There is something about the 'etched' crown in that crystal that bothers me. I would pass if I were you.

I share your view ... pass ...

Alcan · 5 January 2008, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordo9998

I know more detail about fakes than anyone

Ed Rooney · 5 January 2008, 01:18 AM

I don't like the LEC, I don't like the detail on the bezel, I don't like the pearl, and I don't like the clasp. Also the seller's previous watch sales do not convince me that he is a reputable Rolex seller.

Any one of those things would make me walk.

Welshwatchman · 5 January 2008, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordo9998

no... it's real. I can tell by the clasp... poor pics is all... take it or leave it but it is 100% real. I know more detail about fakes than anyone and no matter how good a fake is, I can always tell my the clasp where it dents in for your nail to flip the latch. this one is legit.

Funny one.

scottschoe · 5 January 2008, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordo9998

no... it's real. I can tell by the clasp... poor pics is all... take it or leave it but it is 100% real. I know more detail about fakes than anyone and no matter how good a fake is, I can always tell my the clasp where it dents in for your nail to flip the latch. this one is legit.

Maybe you should go check your own watches

SPACE-DWELLER · 5 January 2008, 08:31 AM

Here's an interesting read I posted some while back.

The RIGHT one on the pics is ALWAYS the REAL one!

DSJ · 5 January 2008, 08:56 AM

Very nice Bo! Goes to show, unless you buy from an AD or person you absolutely TRUST, it's easy to be duped.

Prince · 5 January 2008, 08:57 AM

Is that YOUR fake, Bo?

Fortunato · 5 January 2008, 08:59 AM

oops.... when a pro talks, others have to shut.

Thank you for the perfect tutorial!

Harley Rider · 5 January 2008, 10:58 AM

Space Dweller, Thank you for this great tutorial! It is very interesting to see the two side by side. It also shows just how easy it is for a novice to get taken. This is Why I chose the peace of mind of buying my Explorer II from an AD.

CoopJr · 5 January 2008, 12:56 PM

That is THE single best post I have yet to see here on TRF. That is damn scary. None of the fakes shown in the Rolex Report are as of high a quality as this one. You scared me straight. I'm going AD and not gray.

I bet if you open it up the movement has "Rolex" engraved on it too. A guy here named MelloYellow bought a Sub off of ebay and it had a LEC just like this fake. We all called it out but he swore his watch was real.

Hellcat65 · 5 January 2008, 03:46 PM

Its a fake..........period.

LiuHsi · 5 January 2008, 03:49 PM

Andad · 5 January 2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordo9998

no... it's real. I can tell by the clasp... poor pics is all... take it or leave it but it is 100% real. I know more detail about fakes than anyone and no matter how good a fake is, I can always tell my the clasp where it dents in for your nail to flip the latch. this one is legit.

Sorry Jordo. Are you the seller.

CoopJr · 10 January 2008, 12:56 AM

http://www.bernardwatch.com/content/...lex-Comparison

CPTL · 10 January 2008, 03:29 AM

Looking at Bo's great side-by-side, and the bezel and LEC on the proferred sample....

The LV in question is probably a fake.

The markings on the bezel are clearly not centered. And, the LEC on a genuine Rolex would never be that clearly visible--even in pics we've seen where people were using angles and lighting trying to capture the LEC, we've never seen one that visible.

thedips · 10 January 2008, 06:37 AM

wow great review......

well based on that you can clearly see that the ebay auction the bezel markers are off centered just slightly but enough where its clear fake... also the pearl looks somewhat questionable... however it could be angle.. but still if you have any doubt... .just go against.... regardless of price! better safe than sorry!!

great review once again!

jac67 · 10 January 2008, 09:21 AM

Great post Bo.

Man, those fakes are getting pretty scary.

John.

Rollie_Pollie · 16 January 2008, 01:45 AM

I know I'm a newbie and this is my first post, but I know quality info when I see it! Any chance this thread can be made into a sticky (archived)?

leethal21 · 16 January 2008, 11:23 AM

verry informative string.

great info.

After reading all info, i would have to agree the origional listing is in serious question.

4 January 2008, 08:43 AM	#1
coolivan25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6	Is this an authentic Rolex? #2 Sorry guys, I am a Rolex NOOB, I Also saw this Rolex on Ebay. Is it a good price to purchase this watch? Also it is Authentic? thanks again guys!!~ Ebay site: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Rolex-50th-Annive...QQcmdZViewItem

4 January 2008, 08:47 AM	#2
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Welcome to TRF! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

4 January 2008, 04:20 PM	#3
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,528	There is something about the 'etched' crown in that crystal that bothers me. I would pass if I were you. __________________ E

4 January 2008, 04:48 PM	#4
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	Pass. __________________ __________________

4 January 2008, 05:21 PM	#8
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	Here is a pic of the genuine watch. The laser etching seems off center also. Check how the pearl looks like at a genuine watch Attached Images

4 January 2008, 05:11 PM	#5
jordo9998 Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 118	no... it's real. I can tell by the clasp... poor pics is all... take it or leave it but it is 100% real. I know more detail about fakes than anyone and no matter how good a fake is, I can always tell my the clasp where it dents in for your nail to flip the latch. this one is legit.

4 January 2008, 05:17 PM	#6
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	There is something wrong with the pearl. It doesn't seem ok to me. Also the laser etching can be seen in all pics. Personally i think that it is a fake.

4 January 2008, 05:29 PM	#9
cbsmohai "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Travis Location: Central Texas Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 284	The etching looks mighty big on that watch. There was a thread earlier where one was shown with a macro lens. Didn't look anything like that.

4 January 2008, 09:55 PM	#10
jimroe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jim Location: Florida Watch: PP 571211A-001 Posts: 107	I agree - the LEC looks big; it also looks crooked - but more disconcerting is that it's visible in the first place. The way that photograph is lit you shouldn't be able to see the LEC at all. And - the pearl also doesn't look right either.

5 January 2008, 01:18 AM	#13
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I don't like the LEC, I don't like the detail on the bezel, I don't like the pearl, and I don't like the clasp. Also the seller's previous watch sales do not convince me that he is a reputable Rolex seller. Any one of those things would make me walk.

5 January 2008, 08:31 AM	#16
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Here's an interesting read I posted some while back. The RIGHT one on the pics is ALWAYS the REAL one! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

5 January 2008, 08:56 AM	#17
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Very nice Bo! Goes to show, unless you buy from an AD or person you absolutely TRUST, it's easy to be duped. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

5 January 2008, 08:57 AM	#18
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	Is that YOUR fake, Bo? __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

5 January 2008, 08:59 AM	#19
Fortunato "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brazil Watch: SS Sub (Date) Posts: 43	oops.... when a pro talks, others have to shut. Thank you for the perfect tutorial!

5 January 2008, 10:58 AM	#20
Harley Rider Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Tom Location: Chicago Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 25	Space Dweller, Thank you for this great tutorial! It is very interesting to see the two side by side. It also shows just how easy it is for a novice to get taken. This is Why I chose the peace of mind of buying my Explorer II from an AD.

5 January 2008, 12:56 PM	#21
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Bo... That is THE single best post I have yet to see here on TRF. That is damn scary. None of the fakes shown in the Rolex Report are as of high a quality as this one. You scared me straight. I'm going AD and not gray. I bet if you open it up the movement has "Rolex" engraved on it too. A guy here named MelloYellow bought a Sub off of ebay and it had a LEC just like this fake. We all called it out but he swore his watch was real.

5 January 2008, 03:46 PM	#22
Hellcat65 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Mike Location: North Carolina Posts: 238	Its a fake..........period.

5 January 2008, 03:49 PM	#23
LiuHsi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 14

10 January 2008, 12:56 AM	#25
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	This is also an interesting real/fake comparison http://www.bernardwatch.com/content/...lex-Comparison

10 January 2008, 03:29 AM	#26
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	Looking at Bo's great side-by-side, and the bezel and LEC on the proferred sample.... The LV in question is probably a fake. The markings on the bezel are clearly not centered. And, the LEC on a genuine Rolex would never be that clearly visible--even in pics we've seen where people were using angles and lighting trying to capture the LEC, we've never seen one that visible.

10 January 2008, 06:37 AM	#27
thedips "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Jay rey Location: CA, bay area Watch: el presidente Posts: 263	wow great review...... well based on that you can clearly see that the ebay auction the bezel markers are off centered just slightly but enough where its clear fake... also the pearl looks somewhat questionable... however it could be angle.. but still if you have any doubt... .just go against.... regardless of price! better safe than sorry!! great review once again! __________________ ------------------------ YG - DAYDATE-PRESIDENT TT - DATEJUST-JUBILEE SS - DATEJUST-JUBILEE

10 January 2008, 09:21 AM	#28
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	Great post Bo. Man, those fakes are getting pretty scary. John.

16 January 2008, 01:45 AM	#29
Rollie_Pollie Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Watch: what you're doing! Posts: 67	I know I'm a newbie and this is my first post, but I know quality info when I see it! Any chance this thread can be made into a sticky (archived)?

16 January 2008, 11:23 AM	#30
leethal21 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Rick Location: Canada Watch: SD Posts: 232	verry informative string. great info. After reading all info, i would have to agree the origional listing is in serious question.

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