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Sylvain · 6 January 2008, 07:43 AM

Can you light me up what is the major difference between a Tudor and a Rolex

Does it worth it to buy a Tudor I know they are not the real McCoy but they have nice special editions

Sylvain

Daytona WG black MOP

Prince · 6 January 2008, 07:46 AM

The Tudor line is made by Rolex, and is considered a less expensive, though very excellent, watch. Many of the members here on TRF own Tudor watches. They are an excellent value!

f16570 · 6 January 2008, 07:58 AM

Is Bentley a Volkswagen?

watchlady · 6 January 2008, 08:01 AM

I consider Tudor to be Rolexes cousin or maybe little brother.

Prince · 6 January 2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by f16570

Is Bentley a Volkswagen?

The other way around, Fraser!

steel4me · 6 January 2008, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f16570

Is Bentley a Volkswagen?

OOHHHHH!!!!!
you're very right .. In fact ROLEX should stop cheapening themselves and discontinue that line ... it makes them look desperate for $$ ....

Welshwatchman · 6 January 2008, 08:04 AM

I alway considered Tudor as "Rolex Lite".

Prince · 6 January 2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

I alway considered Tudor as "Rolex Lite".

That's an excellent analogy, Paul!

Dan Pierce · 6 January 2008, 09:41 AM

It is what you think it is.
dP

SPACE-DWELLER · 6 January 2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

It is what you think it is.
dP

Yeah! You, Craig, Steve AND James:

SHOW YOUR BIG BLOCKS!

That'll teach him!

Anyway, up until the early 1990ies, Tudor watches had Rolex cases and even the Rolex crown with the Rolex coronet on it. Casebacks were also Rolex marked.

JostheBoss · 6 January 2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel4me

OOHHHHH!!!!!
you're very right .. In fact ROLEX should stop cheapening themselves and discontinue that line ... it makes them look desperate for $$ ....

Agree! Perhaps the Tudor range is the "training ground" for future Rolex watchmakers and technicians?? Perhaps that's where they cut their teeth and graduate to the real work..maybe that's why Rolex doesn't discontinue the line (cos its not an issue of $$$ for Rolex!)

arttay10 · 6 January 2008, 10:23 AM

Mark my words..... Vintage Tudors are rising in price rapidly............

Prince · 6 January 2008, 10:31 AM

Look, most great companies out there (Waterford Crystal comes to mind) makes a product that has high quality, but is less expensive and is targeted for those who can't afford the top-of-the-line items. Waterford makes fine lead crystal items that are less expensive than the full-blown (pardon the pun) high-end crystal products, and sells them in Waterford retail stores in malls.

To the untrained eye, they LOOK as good as the high-end items. Collectors and those with a taste for the highest quality items can tell the difference. Those who can't are very happy to have the other products.

GoldenBear · 6 January 2008, 12:43 PM

Is a Lexus a Toyota? I guess it depends on which one you own. If you own the Toyota, then the answer is yes. If you own the Lexus, then it's no.

JostheBoss · 6 January 2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Is a Lexus a Toyota? I guess it depends on which one you own. If you own the Toyota, then the answer is yes. If you own the Lexus, then it's no.

Hehe! Well said!

steel4me · 6 January 2008, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Is a Lexus a Toyota? I guess it depends on which one you own. If you own the Toyota, then the answer is yes. If you own the Lexus, then it's no.

If you work on them, like I do, the answer is YES!!! Lexus=Toyota, infra structure wise and guts wise ....parts are the same and interchangable ... infact the $10K you are paying extra for Lexus is for the interior ....

DJF881 · 6 January 2008, 01:13 PM

I like their watches. They're kind of sleek and modern looking.

I think Rolex can test new changes to case designs in their Tudor lines, to avoid an overabundance of transitional models.

Also, I expect that their manufacturing capabilities exceed their capacity to properly finish and certify their Rolex watches, so they can utilize the full capabilities of their manufacturing, and devote less technician attention to the non-chronometer Tudors.

Also, a big

at the date complication on the Tudor chronograph.

Gedanken · 6 January 2008, 01:14 PM

Paul's analogy is the most appropriate. While Beetles aren't built to the same standards as Bentleys, Tudors are built to the same standard as Rolexes, the real difference being that the movements are re-engineered ETAs instead of Rolex movements.

If we do want to use a car analogy, I'd go more along the lines of Ferrari and Dino. The Dinos did not have the Cavaliano Rampante, but they were still pieces of Ferrari engineering and fine cars in their own right, and the 308, 328 and 288 GTO evolved from the Dino 206/246.

Taking another angle on it, Martin Amis might have been Kingsley's kid, but even if he wasn't he's still a good author.

T5AUS · 6 January 2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

It is what you think it is.
dP

Yay Dan,

Rawhyde · 6 January 2008, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Yeah! You, Craig, Steve AND James:

SHOW YOUR BIG BLOCKS!

That'll teach him!

Anyway, up until the early 1990ies, Tudor watches had Rolex cases and even the Rolex crown with the Rolex coronet on it. Casebacks were also Rolex marked.

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It is a fine watch that was designed, built, and serviced by Rolex just like my MINI Cooper was designed and built by BMW.

My Tudor watch has a movement made by ETA, but the Daytona of the same time period had a movement made by Zenith. It has the exact same amount of "genuine Rolex content" as a Daytona of the same time period.

Vintage unmolested Tudors are starting to gain in value, and rightly so!

Rawhyde

Gedanken · 6 January 2008, 01:56 PM

Oh yeah, forgot my Big Block shot:

Dan Pierce · 6 January 2008, 02:26 PM

This Tudor Chrono "big block" is a Rolex case, crown, and bracelet with a Rolex modified Valjoux 7750 movement. No more, no less.
dP

TARDIS · 6 January 2008, 02:42 PM

Here in Australia, I see Tudor is being advertised more now.

Magazines like 'Mens health" and similar show a full color page of the Hydronaut sans the MSRP of course!

How does it compare to the Submariner in $?

Steve

East Bay Rider · 6 January 2008, 02:47 PM

I do not believe that anyone should look down on Tudor watches. I am glad to have a full blown Rolex but I would not hesitate to buy a Tudor watch, especially a vintage. I have a deep appreciation for their chronometer and am especially fond of its date feature, which Rolex does not have.
For a car reference, I think of it as the Plymouth to the Chrysler. Very very similar but with a few less options. And there is nothing wrong with getting such a comparable watch at a Tudor price.

GrandDaddy · 6 January 2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Is a Lexus a Toyota? I guess it depends on which one you own. If you own the Toyota, then the answer is yes. If you own the Lexus, then it's no.

I have a Lexus and YES it's a TOYOTA. Take a look under the hood. I even have all the service done at a local Toyota Dealership. Even all the part numbers are the same. Why did I buy a Lexus instead of a Toyota then? If you can haggle the price of a new Lexus to almost the same as the equivalent Toyota model wouldn't you do it?

Dan Pierce · 6 January 2008, 02:59 PM

Many vintage Tudors are Rolex on the outside with non Rolex movements on the inside. My VW Passat is the opposite. VW on the outside and an Audi engine on the inside.

dP

T5AUS · 6 January 2008, 03:42 PM

Big brothers, Tudor subs were the choice watch for a few world navy's and not without reason

DJF881 · 6 January 2008, 04:07 PM

Are the movements Chronometer certified? None of them say so on the dial.

How accurate are the watches?

Prince · 6 January 2008, 04:10 PM

I don't believe they meet COSC standards, but still very good.

nimm12 · 6 January 2008, 05:27 PM

the Tudor movement is NOT Rolex caliber... pls make sure u understand this... other than that i have nothing against Tudor

6 January 2008, 07:43 AM	#1
Sylvain "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: montreal Posts: 6	Is a Tudor a Rolex ?? Can you light me up what is the major difference between a Tudor and a Rolex Does it worth it to buy a Tudor I know they are not the real McCoy but they have nice special editions Sylvain Daytona WG black MOP

6 January 2008, 07:46 AM	#2
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	The Tudor line is made by Rolex, and is considered a less expensive, though very excellent, watch. Many of the members here on TRF own Tudor watches. They are an excellent value! __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

6 January 2008, 07:58 AM	#3
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	Is Bentley a Volkswagen? __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

6 January 2008, 08:01 AM	#4
watchlady "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: the other Lisa Location: Metro New York Watch: SS/RG Datejust Posts: 1,014	I consider Tudor to be Rolexes cousin or maybe little brother. __________________ Oyster Date 15200 : DJ Mid TT RG 178241: DJ SS 116234 Sub ND 14060M : PLATTY YM 16622 : Milgauss 116400 White

6 January 2008, 08:04 AM	#7
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I alway considered Tudor as "Rolex Lite". __________________ ..33

6 January 2008, 09:41 AM	#9
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	It is what you think it is. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

6 January 2008, 10:23 AM	#12
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	Mark my words..... Vintage Tudors are rising in price rapidly............

6 January 2008, 10:31 AM	#13
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	Look, most great companies out there (Waterford Crystal comes to mind) makes a product that has high quality, but is less expensive and is targeted for those who can't afford the top-of-the-line items. Waterford makes fine lead crystal items that are less expensive than the full-blown (pardon the pun) high-end crystal products, and sells them in Waterford retail stores in malls. To the untrained eye, they LOOK as good as the high-end items. Collectors and those with a taste for the highest quality items can tell the difference. Those who can't are very happy to have the other products. __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

6 January 2008, 12:43 PM	#14
GoldenBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,480	Is a Lexus a Toyota? I guess it depends on which one you own. If you own the Toyota, then the answer is yes. If you own the Lexus, then it's no. __________________ ____________________________________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner Rolex SS Submariner Breitling Emergency Mission They are just watches, wear 'em. ____________________________________________

6 January 2008, 01:13 PM	#17
DJF881 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 248	I like their watches. They're kind of sleek and modern looking. I think Rolex can test new changes to case designs in their Tudor lines, to avoid an overabundance of transitional models. Also, I expect that their manufacturing capabilities exceed their capacity to properly finish and certify their Rolex watches, so they can utilize the full capabilities of their manufacturing, and devote less technician attention to the non-chronometer Tudors. Also, a big at the date complication on the Tudor chronograph.

6 January 2008, 01:14 PM	#18
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Paul's analogy is the most appropriate. While Beetles aren't built to the same standards as Bentleys, Tudors are built to the same standard as Rolexes, the real difference being that the movements are re-engineered ETAs instead of Rolex movements. If we do want to use a car analogy, I'd go more along the lines of Ferrari and Dino. The Dinos did not have the Cavaliano Rampante, but they were still pieces of Ferrari engineering and fine cars in their own right, and the 308, 328 and 288 GTO evolved from the Dino 206/246. Taking another angle on it, Martin Amis might have been Kingsley's kid, but even if he wasn't he's still a good author. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

6 January 2008, 01:56 PM	#21
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Oh yeah, forgot my Big Block shot: __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

6 January 2008, 02:26 PM	#22
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	This Tudor Chrono "big block" is a Rolex case, crown, and bracelet with a Rolex modified Valjoux 7750 movement. No more, no less. dP Attached Images __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

6 January 2008, 02:42 PM	#23
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	Here in Australia, I see Tudor is being advertised more now. Magazines like 'Mens health" and similar show a full color page of the Hydronaut sans the MSRP of course! How does it compare to the Submariner in $? Steve

6 January 2008, 02:47 PM	#24
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,073	I do not believe that anyone should look down on Tudor watches. I am glad to have a full blown Rolex but I would not hesitate to buy a Tudor watch, especially a vintage. I have a deep appreciation for their chronometer and am especially fond of its date feature, which Rolex does not have. For a car reference, I think of it as the Plymouth to the Chrysler. Very very similar but with a few less options. And there is nothing wrong with getting such a comparable watch at a Tudor price. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

6 January 2008, 02:59 PM	#26
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	Many vintage Tudors are Rolex on the outside with non Rolex movements on the inside. My VW Passat is the opposite. VW on the outside and an Audi engine on the inside. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

6 January 2008, 03:42 PM	#27
T5AUS Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Watch: ing the time go by Posts: 1,444	Big brothers, Tudor subs were the choice watch for a few world navy's and not without reason Attached Images

6 January 2008, 04:07 PM	#28
DJF881 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 248	Are the movements Chronometer certified? None of them say so on the dial. How accurate are the watches?

6 January 2008, 04:10 PM	#29
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	I don't believe they meet COSC standards, but still very good. __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

6 January 2008, 05:27 PM	#30
nimm12 Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: singapore Posts: 101	the Tudor movement is NOT Rolex caliber... pls make sure u understand this... other than that i have nothing against Tudor

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