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badgtho · 20 June 2013, 09:29 AM

As the title states, my lack of impulse control has resulted in another purchase. I was lucky enough to find a New In Box 2009 PAM 000.

After many many years of drooling over these watches I can finally do so on my own wrist.

My question:
Is it true that the full power reserve will not immediately be achievable if let to sit unwound for extended periods?

Aside from that, can anyone share any pointers for this noob?

Jim M · 20 June 2013, 09:38 AM

Store it as long as you want, give it a full wind when you take it out for wear and you will be good to go. I wind my PAM full every morning just to keep it at max when worn over course of few days.

Use the rubber and leather straps that came with it.

Do not buy another strap because it will trigger a madness that is next to impossible to stop even after you have passed the cost of watch in straps!

Enjoy your new toy!

badgtho · 20 June 2013, 09:43 AM

I can definitely see the strap madness coming. The OE black calfskin will do just fine for now.

I've been subscribing to the wind every AM rule as its the most convenient but I haven't wanted to take it off since I got it home.

rockmastermike · 20 June 2013, 10:11 AM

congratulations on an epic watch. each morning is fine and yes the straps are a slippery slope that spills over to your other watches.

travisb · 20 June 2013, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim M

Store it as long as you want, give it a full wind when you take it out for wear and you will be good to go. I wind my PAM full every morning just to keep it at max when worn over course of few days.

Use the rubber and leather straps that came with it.

Do not buy another strap because it will trigger a madness that is next to impossible to stop even after you have passed the cost of watch in straps!

Enjoy your new toy!

This is sound advice...
Congrats on a great purchase!
Straps with a new Panerai can be detrimental to the bank roll.
I'm sure that won't hold you back though. Enjoy it!

mfer · 20 June 2013, 11:01 AM

advice.....wear the hell out of it.

advice.....get straps!!!!!

badgtho · 20 June 2013, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

advice.....wear the hell out of it.

advice.....get straps!!!!!

Good (expensive) advice

htc8p · 20 June 2013, 01:25 PM

full wind will give you more than 2 full days.

after 2 days i suggest to wind it already.

its very comfortable and sits flat on the wrist. get an ammo strap and you're all set

congrats!

DiverAsia · 20 June 2013, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgtho

As the title states, my lack of impulse control has resulted in another purchase. I was lucky enough to find a New In Box 2009 PAM 000.

Congratulations! Wear it in the best of health!

Cru Jones · 20 June 2013, 02:23 PM

Congrats! Great choice. Welcome to the madness.

iLLGT2 · 20 June 2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

advice.....wear the hell out of it.

advice.....get straps!!!!!

Hah agreed, congrats OP!

BTW mfer, is that a 26mm gtor/croc on the bottom? I'm looking for one for my 372, please let me know if you'd sell it :)

DiverAsia · 20 June 2013, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

advice.....wear the hell out of it.

advice.....get straps!!!!!

YES!
Can you please share the strap maker for the pink croc?
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers!

mfer · 20 June 2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Hah agreed, congrats OP!

BTW mfer, is that a 26mm gtor/croc on the bottom? I'm looking for one for my 372, please let me know if you'd sell it :)

If you mean this one it is ABP. http://www.abp-paris.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiverAsia

YES!
Can you please share the strap maker for the pink croc?
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers!

Pink one is OEM.

nick c · 20 June 2013, 10:13 PM

Congrats

Glenn422 · 20 June 2013, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim m

store it as long as you want, give it a full wind when you take it out for wear and you will be good to go. I wind my pam full every morning just to keep it at max when worn over course of few days.

Use the rubber and leather straps that came with it.

Do not buy another strap because it will trigger a madness that is next to impossible to stop even after you have passed the cost of watch in straps!

Enjoy your new toy!

+1!

I'm not sure if that's true but I don't think so. I think leaving it unwound for long periods of time wouldn't change the elasticity of the main spring. Try this: Wind fully and let it run out, measure the power reserve. Repeat and see if you get a consistent power reserve.

DiverAsia · 21 June 2013, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

Pink one is OEM.

Thanks, I thought it was but wanted to be sure. My wife has the light blue OEM croc and loves it but wants a pink croc too.
Cheers!

kilyung · 21 June 2013, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

If you mean this one it is ABP. http://www.abp-paris.com/

ABP straps are CRAZY nice.

badgtho · 21 June 2013, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn422

+1!

I'm not sure if that's true but I don't think so. I think leaving it unwound for long periods of time wouldn't change the elasticity of the main spring. Try this: Wind fully and let it run out, measure the power reserve. Repeat and see if you get a consistent power reserve.

Good thought. Will do.

kilyung · 21 June 2013, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by badgtho

Good thought. Will do.

Just be aware that PR isn't exactly linear particularly at the ends.

wingku · 21 June 2013, 04:41 AM

Congrats! And like Mik said, wear the hell out of it!

badgtho · 21 June 2013, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Just be aware that PR isn't exactly linear particularly at the ends.

Meaning it loses time after a certain point and then stops entirely at 56hrs?

badgtho · 25 June 2013, 09:40 PM

Update: It seems to be stopping / slowing way Down at 40 hrs.

I've heard that some say the 000 is a 40 hr reserve. (No I have not read the manuals - been traveling)

Thoughts?

mfer · 25 June 2013, 10:24 PM

You should get 56 hours before the time starts to get wonky. If it sat for a long time it might take some movement to get the oils distributed a bit. I'd wear if for a couple weeks and just monitor the power reserve.

If you really bought it BNIB from an AD, you could ask them to service it for you due to power reserve issues. If you bought it grey, then it'll most likely be on you. It might just work out also.

advocatia · 26 June 2013, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

ABP straps are CRAZY nice.

Agree but their website is a nightmare to navigate and order.

badgtho · 26 June 2013, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

You should get 56 hours before the time starts to get wonky. If it sat for a long time it might take some movement to get the oils distributed a bit. I'd wear if for a couple weeks and just monitor the power reserve.

If you really bought it BNIB from an AD, you could ask them to service it for you due to power reserve issues. If you bought it grey, then it'll most likely be on you. It might just work out also.

NIB from a private collection. Originally purchased at Wempe.

I'd thought that the 111 and 112 were 56 and older 000s were 40hr.

badgtho · 26 June 2013, 04:01 AM

From past experiences dealing with Rolex, Tag and Breitling factory service ill seek a good Indy shop if needed. A good Indy, in my experience, earns your trust and business rather than the factory who really just wants to sell parts and takes eons.

badgtho · 26 June 2013, 09:34 AM

Read the manual. Claims 56 :(
Oh well.

kilyung · 26 June 2013, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgtho

Read the manual. Claims 56 :(
Oh well.

An ETA 6497 movement is rated for 56hrs. Less than that and you have a mainspring issue. Take it in for service.

kilyung · 26 June 2013, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by advocatia

Agree but their website is a nightmare to navigate and order.

Just call and speak with them... although it's much easier if you speak French.

kilyung · 26 June 2013, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgtho

Meaning it loses time after a certain point and then stops entirely at 56hrs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgtho

Update: It seems to be stopping / slowing way Down at 40 hrs.

I've heard that some say the 000 is a 40 hr reserve. (No I have not read the manuals - been traveling)

Thoughts?

Actually, it should speed up slightly towards the end before stopping.

20 June 2013, 09:29 AM	#1
badgtho "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 274	Just purchased a PAM 000 - couple of Qs & any advice? As the title states, my lack of impulse control has resulted in another purchase. I was lucky enough to find a New In Box 2009 PAM 000. After many many years of drooling over these watches I can finally do so on my own wrist. My question: Is it true that the full power reserve will not immediately be achievable if let to sit unwound for extended periods? Aside from that, can anyone share any pointers for this noob? __________________ 16610 Sub 1601 Datejust PAM 000 CA1215 Formula 1 Chrono Etc...

20 June 2013, 09:38 AM	#2
Jim M "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long Island NY US Watch: 1675 14060M 16622 Posts: 507	Congrats! Store it as long as you want, give it a full wind when you take it out for wear and you will be good to go. I wind my PAM full every morning just to keep it at max when worn over course of few days. Use the rubber and leather straps that came with it. Do not buy another strap because it will trigger a madness that is next to impossible to stop even after you have passed the cost of watch in straps! Enjoy your new toy!

20 June 2013, 09:43 AM	#3
badgtho "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 274	I can definitely see the strap madness coming. The OE black calfskin will do just fine for now. I've been subscribing to the wind every AM rule as its the most convenient but I haven't wanted to take it off since I got it home. __________________ 16610 Sub 1601 Datejust PAM 000 CA1215 Formula 1 Chrono Etc...

20 June 2013, 11:01 AM	#6
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	advice.....wear the hell out of it. advice.....get straps!!!!! __________________ member#3242

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nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Congrats Attached Images

20 June 2013, 10:11 AM	#4
rockmastermike 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: GA Watch: 16610LV Posts: 4,431	congratulations on an epic watch. each morning is fine and yes the straps are a slippery slope that spills over to your other watches.

20 June 2013, 01:25 PM	#8
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,472	full wind will give you more than 2 full days. after 2 days i suggest to wind it already. its very comfortable and sits flat on the wrist. get an ammo strap and you're all set congrats!

20 June 2013, 02:23 PM	#10
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	Congrats! Great choice. Welcome to the madness.

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wingku "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Wing Location: Calgary,AB,Canada Watch: the World unfold Posts: 1,019	Congrats! And like Mik said, wear the hell out of it!

25 June 2013, 09:40 PM	#22
badgtho "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 274	Update: It seems to be stopping / slowing way Down at 40 hrs. I've heard that some say the 000 is a 40 hr reserve. (No I have not read the manuals - been traveling) Thoughts? __________________ 16610 Sub 1601 Datejust PAM 000 CA1215 Formula 1 Chrono Etc...

25 June 2013, 10:24 PM	#23
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	You should get 56 hours before the time starts to get wonky. If it sat for a long time it might take some movement to get the oils distributed a bit. I'd wear if for a couple weeks and just monitor the power reserve. If you really bought it BNIB from an AD, you could ask them to service it for you due to power reserve issues. If you bought it grey, then it'll most likely be on you. It might just work out also. __________________ member#3242

26 June 2013, 04:01 AM	#26
badgtho "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 274	From past experiences dealing with Rolex, Tag and Breitling factory service ill seek a good Indy shop if needed. A good Indy, in my experience, earns your trust and business rather than the factory who really just wants to sell parts and takes eons. __________________ 16610 Sub 1601 Datejust PAM 000 CA1215 Formula 1 Chrono Etc...

26 June 2013, 09:34 AM	#27
badgtho "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 274	Read the manual. Claims 56 :( Oh well. __________________ 16610 Sub 1601 Datejust PAM 000 CA1215 Formula 1 Chrono Etc...

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