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benlee · 22 July 2013, 12:53 PM

I have posted threads about both watches before and now trying to pick the final one. Here are the two watches with their plus and minus. I think they are very different but both so fabulous and likeable. I have bargained them and they can be had almost around the same price. Basically I like both and can easily be happy with either one.

A.Lange Daymatic RG

(+) Haute Horology credentials
(+) Exclusive, not many people will have it
(+) Handmade. Gorgeous workmanship and finishing esp the display back

(-) Fragile looking, not an everyday watch
(-) Service Centre not readily available
(-) Resale value not great

Rolex DayDate2 President White Gold

(+) Typical Rolex Robustness and Reliability
(+) Rolex DayDate line's prestigious image ( yeah, it's just marketing... but )
(+) Better resale value

(-) No display back
(-) Heavy though I think I can get use to it

What you think? Any thoughts appreciated.

FYI, among my existing collection, I already have a IWC Portuguese RG Chrono, an AP Diver, an AP 15400, an Omega Planet Ocean, a Rolex Explorer II and a Rolex Datejust.

Disclaimer : Pics not mine.

Billywiz · 22 July 2013, 01:24 PM

This will be interest . Every poll Rolex struggles here...wierd...some sort of iverted pride or trying to proove who's the biggest WIS...just strange that Rolex nearly always fares poorly in these polls.

ROLEX wins my vote as it displays its Character and I think others apart from name could be any make quite honestly.

Adam K. · 22 July 2013, 01:25 PM

Get the A. Lange & Sohne. Amazing, exquisite piece of horological art.

Then, pick up a steel Datejust II to cover the elegant daily wearer niche. Very similar to the DDII in size, look, and movement, etc. --- just much more reasonably priced due to the non-precious metal content. Even better deal if its lightly pre-loved!

Longhorn · 22 July 2013, 01:35 PM

In terms of WIS hype, ALS almost always wins, but I was underwhelmed by it when i tried the platinum version on. I'm going with the DD.

jolimont · 22 July 2013, 01:44 PM

While the ALS is a "better" watch horologically, if the choice was up to me- the DD, just because of the ease and relative cost of servicing as well as better resale value

Rolex Freak · 22 July 2013, 01:48 PM

DD for me.

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paverman · 22 July 2013, 01:51 PM

I'd go for the Lange myself, especially considering its my favorite brand.
I do own a day date 2 in white gold and wear it often. To me though, the Lange offers much more of a unique "package" than the Rolex. You hit on several of the pros for the Daymatic, but I'd argue with the cons. Some with more experience may differ, but I don't think service is a major concern, at least at this time. I believe Alkis does a great job keeping the backlog of servicing down to a reasonable level and does a great job.
As far as the Daymatic being fragile looking and not an everyday watch, I disagree. While I wouldn't wear it rock climbing, I would wear it for everyday business use for sure. As far as looks go, there's no reason not to wear it often. For me, as a daily wearer, I'd probably go white gold as its less flashy, but that's just my taste.
The last item you mentioned was resale. If you think you may be flipping, buy a preloved Lange and head off any potential initial drop in value from new.

Good luck and keep us apprised.

Cru Jones · 22 July 2013, 03:18 PM

Based on how you presented the pros and cons, I would say, for you, the DDII.

LightOnAHill · 22 July 2013, 03:49 PM

dd

andyboy39 · 22 July 2013, 04:16 PM

I prefer the DD2...

benlee · 22 July 2013, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paverman

I'd go for the Lange myself, especially considering its my favorite brand.
I do own a day date 2 in white gold and wear it often. To me though, the Lange offers much more of a unique "package" than the Rolex. You hit on several of the pros for the Daymatic, but I'd argue with the cons. Some with more experience may differ, but I don't think service is a major concern, at least at this time. I believe Alkis does a great job keeping the backlog of servicing down to a reasonable level and does a great job.
As far as the Daymatic being fragile looking and not an everyday watch, I disagree. While I wouldn't wear it rock climbing, I would wear it for everyday business use for sure. As far as looks go, there's no reason not to wear it often. For me, as a daily wearer, I'd probably go white gold as its less flashy, but that's just my taste.
The last item you mentioned was resale. If you think you may be flipping, buy a preloved Lange and head off any potential initial drop in value from new.

Good luck and keep us apprised.

Hello Ken. Thanks for your insights. Servicing a Lange is indeed rather problematic as I heard the nearest service centre in Asia is in Hong Kong and for any major repairs, they still have to send back to Germany which will be 4 - 6 mths lead time. Why I say is fragile is because I notice the case and the movement, there isn't much space in between which means the watch most be worned with care and cannot take knocks. Not that I think the DD2 can take knocks, but I am kind of clumsy.

As for buying pre-own, there isn't much choice going around and I have yet to see a Daymatic available LNIB yet in my area.

Puffy · 22 July 2013, 05:56 PM

be good to know what you already have in your collection, but for me it boils down to:

Richemont brand circus vs Rolex independent?

you can wrap as much marketing bollocks around the ALS but i choose Rolex for the reason it comes from an independent maker

EDIT: can see what you have in your collection. if you want a dress piece look towards patek

busytimmy · 22 July 2013, 06:22 PM

The Lange by about three billion.

travisb · 22 July 2013, 06:38 PM

The ALS is beautiful, but I'd choose the DD2.
Fits in better as a daily or regular wear watch (in my life anyway).

Bangel · 22 July 2013, 06:44 PM

The Lange is a compelling option, but I give my vote narrowly to the DD2.

For my use, the DD2 seems a bit more practical and robust (even though this last point might be imagined).

HL65 · 22 July 2013, 07:09 PM

ALS Daymatic between those. Of course you are in the Rolex Forum so don't expect too many to not pick the DDII.

Cru Jones · 22 July 2013, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

be good to know what you already have in your collection, but for me it boils down to:

Richemont brand circus vs Rolex independent?

you can wrap as much marketing bollocks around the ALS but i choose Rolex for the reason it comes from an independent maker

EDIT: can see what you have in your collection. if you want a dress piece look towards patek

i dunno. rolex, patek and other "independent makers" are corporations seeking to generate profits just like any other company. to think that "independents" aren't motivated by the same end goals (making money, developing brand equity) is just silly, IMHO.

also, when it comes to "marketing bollocks", rolex is the undisputed king.

just my two cents....

Qimchi · 22 July 2013, 07:45 PM

Tough choice but DD for me.

capote · 22 July 2013, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

i dunno. rolex, patek and other "independent makers" are corporations seeking to generate profits just like any other company. to think that "independents" aren't motivated by the same end goals (making money, developing brand equity) is just silly, IMHO.

also, when it comes to "marketing bollocks", rolex is the undisputed king.

just my two cents....

+1

Quite surprising that anyone would put owner structure of the company over the actual watch. Oh well, to each his own. I would go with the ALS since it is way, way nicer in every way from design to execution and finish.

superdog · 22 July 2013, 08:22 PM

I've got that same dial dd2.

It's a really super piece. Clearly, I'm biased. But no contest.

zama · 22 July 2013, 09:20 PM

ALS for me, particularly if you have a Rolex in the collection, an ALS is on my wish list while my Sub and Datejust will always be enough Rolex for me. My wish list to complete my watches is an ALS a basic Royal oak and a PP Nautilus or Aquanaut.

beshannon · 22 July 2013, 09:24 PM

Lange no question at all.

Not a fan of the non professional Rolex models

patrike · 22 July 2013, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bangel

the lange is a compelling option, but i give my vote narrowly to the dd2.

For my use, the dd2 seems a bit more practical and robust (even though this last point might be imagined).

+1

Rex22 · 22 July 2013, 10:24 PM

Rolex is the way I would go. For some reason I don't find any other watch brands attractive.

texex91 · 22 July 2013, 10:49 PM

To me completely different watches.

I'd get both to have for different occasions.

If only one, then ALS.

VICI · 22 July 2013, 10:54 PM

DDII All. The. Way.

steel · 22 July 2013, 11:18 PM

Dd2.

Swearengen · 22 July 2013, 11:47 PM

ASL all the way

kilyung · 23 July 2013, 12:18 AM

I picked the DD2 ONLY because the Daymatic isn't one of my favorite models. I'd take a Grange Lange 1 over the Rolex any day

FremStar · 23 July 2013, 12:19 AM

Not that ALS...

View Poll Results: Which will you choose?
A.Lange Lange1 Daymatic Rose Gold	96	52.46%
Rolex "President" DayDate2 White Gold	87	47.54%
Voters: 183. You may not vote on this poll

22 July 2013, 12:53 PM	#1
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	A.Lange Daymatic RG vs Rolex DayDate2 "President" WG I have posted threads about both watches before and now trying to pick the final one. Here are the two watches with their plus and minus. I think they are very different but both so fabulous and likeable. I have bargained them and they can be had almost around the same price. Basically I like both and can easily be happy with either one. A.Lange Daymatic RG (+) Haute Horology credentials (+) Exclusive, not many people will have it (+) Handmade. Gorgeous workmanship and finishing esp the display back (-) Fragile looking, not an everyday watch (-) Service Centre not readily available (-) Resale value not great Rolex DayDate2 President White Gold (+) Typical Rolex Robustness and Reliability (+) Rolex DayDate line's prestigious image ( yeah, it's just marketing... but ) (+) Better resale value (-) No display back (-) Heavy though I think I can get use to it What you think? Any thoughts appreciated. FYI, among my existing collection, I already have a IWC Portuguese RG Chrono, an AP Diver, an AP 15400, an Omega Planet Ocean, a Rolex Explorer II and a Rolex Datejust. Disclaimer : Pics not mine.

22 July 2013, 05:56 PM	#12
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	be good to know what you already have in your collection, but for me it boils down to: Richemont brand circus vs Rolex independent? you can wrap as much marketing bollocks around the ALS but i choose Rolex for the reason it comes from an independent maker EDIT: can see what you have in your collection. if you want a dress piece look towards patek __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

22 July 2013, 07:09 PM	#16
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	ALS Daymatic between those. Of course you are in the Rolex Forum so don't expect too many to not pick the DDII. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

22 July 2013, 08:22 PM	#20
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	I've got that same dial dd2. It's a really super piece. Clearly, I'm biased. But no contest. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

22 July 2013, 01:24 PM	#2
Billywiz Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: John Location: Florida Watch: YG President Posts: 2,090	This will be interest . Every poll Rolex struggles here...wierd...some sort of iverted pride or trying to proove who's the biggest WIS...just strange that Rolex nearly always fares poorly in these polls. ROLEX wins my vote as it displays its Character and I think others apart from name could be any make quite honestly.

22 July 2013, 01:25 PM	#3
Adam K. Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: WA Watch: All the Oysters Posts: 811	Get the A. Lange & Sohne. Amazing, exquisite piece of horological art. Then, pick up a steel Datejust II to cover the elegant daily wearer niche. Very similar to the DDII in size, look, and movement, etc. --- just much more reasonably priced due to the non-precious metal content. Even better deal if its lightly pre-loved!

22 July 2013, 01:35 PM	#4
Longhorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin, Texas Watch: HULK SMASH Posts: 584	In terms of WIS hype, ALS almost always wins, but I was underwhelmed by it when i tried the platinum version on. I'm going with the DD.

22 July 2013, 01:44 PM	#5
jolimont "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Will Location: land of oz Watch: sundial Posts: 2,219	While the ALS is a "better" watch horologically, if the choice was up to me- the DD, just because of the ease and relative cost of servicing as well as better resale value

22 July 2013, 01:48 PM	#6
Rolex Freak "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Sandro Location: Canada Watch: Rolex/GS Posts: 4,412	DD for me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

22 July 2013, 01:51 PM	#7
paverman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Ken Location: Illinois Watch: Too many Posts: 2,870	I'd go for the Lange myself, especially considering its my favorite brand. I do own a day date 2 in white gold and wear it often. To me though, the Lange offers much more of a unique "package" than the Rolex. You hit on several of the pros for the Daymatic, but I'd argue with the cons. Some with more experience may differ, but I don't think service is a major concern, at least at this time. I believe Alkis does a great job keeping the backlog of servicing down to a reasonable level and does a great job. As far as the Daymatic being fragile looking and not an everyday watch, I disagree. While I wouldn't wear it rock climbing, I would wear it for everyday business use for sure. As far as looks go, there's no reason not to wear it often. For me, as a daily wearer, I'd probably go white gold as its less flashy, but that's just my taste. The last item you mentioned was resale. If you think you may be flipping, buy a preloved Lange and head off any potential initial drop in value from new. Good luck and keep us apprised.

22 July 2013, 03:18 PM	#8
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	Based on how you presented the pros and cons, I would say, for you, the DDII.

22 July 2013, 03:49 PM	#9
LightOnAHill "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Bryan Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: YG DD lchdp Posts: 2,963	dd

22 July 2013, 04:16 PM	#10
andyboy39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Zealand Watch: Day Date Posts: 1,409	I prefer the DD2...

22 July 2013, 06:22 PM	#13
busytimmy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 3,745	The Lange by about three billion.

22 July 2013, 06:38 PM	#14
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,493	The ALS is beautiful, but I'd choose the DD2. Fits in better as a daily or regular wear watch (in my life anyway).

22 July 2013, 06:44 PM	#15
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	The Lange is a compelling option, but I give my vote narrowly to the DD2. For my use, the DD2 seems a bit more practical and robust (even though this last point might be imagined).

22 July 2013, 07:45 PM	#18
Qimchi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Earth Watch: Everything Posts: 154	Tough choice but DD for me.

22 July 2013, 09:20 PM	#21
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,808	ALS for me, particularly if you have a Rolex in the collection, an ALS is on my wish list while my Sub and Datejust will always be enough Rolex for me. My wish list to complete my watches is an ALS a basic Royal oak and a PP Nautilus or Aquanaut. __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

22 July 2013, 09:24 PM	#22
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Lange no question at all. Not a fan of the non professional Rolex models __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

22 July 2013, 10:24 PM	#24
Rex22 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mass Watch: 116520,hulk Posts: 225	Rolex is the way I would go. For some reason I don't find any other watch brands attractive.

22 July 2013, 10:49 PM	#25
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	To me completely different watches. I'd get both to have for different occasions. If only one, then ALS.

22 July 2013, 10:54 PM	#26
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	DDII All. The. Way.

22 July 2013, 11:18 PM	#27
steel "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Rolex Posts: 25	Dd2.

22 July 2013, 11:47 PM	#28
Swearengen "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Gabriel Location: London, UK Posts: 1,859	ASL all the way __________________ 1680 1675 16800 16570 16710 17000 16613 17013 Gone but not forgotten 16610LV 1016 16234

23 July 2013, 12:18 AM	#29
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I picked the DD2 ONLY because the Daymatic isn't one of my favorite models. I'd take a Grange Lange 1 over the Rolex any day

23 July 2013, 12:19 AM	#30
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Not that ALS... __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

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