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15 October 2013, 05:09 AM | #1 |
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Is it worth it? Solid 18k President.
Hello everyone, I wanted to get everyone's advice and opinions about a watch purchase. The watch I'm looking at getting is a 18k day date. Now from my understanding all day dates that were produced before 2000 had hollow center links, and are prone to seperation of the bracelet. My local dealer has an 18038 day date and it is a really great deal, but I want to know if its wiser to spring for a day date with the solid bracelet. I've never come in contact with a 2000+ day date so I can't compare the bracelets, if anyone who has handled both hollow and solid day dates give me advice on this situation.
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15 October 2013, 05:18 AM | #2 |
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15 October 2013, 05:37 AM | #3 |
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Older watches have semi solid links I have many I have never heard of the them separating or falling apart, and I have many up to 35 years old sure they stretch a bit more.
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With the day date I would only buy solid links. They started producing the solid links in the mid Y serial production
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15 October 2013, 05:41 AM | #5 |
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Find a solid one through a trusted seller here on the forums....
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15 October 2013, 05:43 AM | #6 |
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Solid...big difference in the feel / weight of the bracelet.
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15 October 2013, 07:32 AM | #7 |
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Tony Soprano thought it was worth it. I concur
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15 October 2013, 07:38 AM | #8 |
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Solid... you WANT that bad boy to be as heavy as possible!
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The solid links and newer clasp are the most durable bracelet option.
But if the watch head on an older model still keeps good time, and the fit and feel of the bracelet meets your expectations, I'd save thousands and get the older one. Just my 2¢
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Solid.
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Very nice!
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15 October 2013, 08:30 AM | #12 |
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Luv my solid link Prexy. The hollow link felt too light for my taste.
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15 October 2013, 09:12 AM | #13 |
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Just got mine from Bobs Watches.
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Oh yeah!
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15 October 2013, 09:50 AM | #15 |
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Not sure if mine is solid or semi-solid.
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When I attended a house party a buddy had what lked like my watch and he took it off to show me. It felt like a feather weight after handling my solid link DD. When I held the band straight out it sagged. My solid link after 5 years has ZERO sag. Rolex really improved the Presidential Band.
Raceoff. Look at my picture above of my band and if yours looks the same it ihas solid links. Place the band in the same position as in my picture. Easy to tell. |
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Solid all the way
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actually, was in the same boat a few weeks ago. I have decided it is worth the extra money as well, except decided to step it up to a 18k Daytona
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15 October 2013, 11:12 AM | #19 |
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OP HERE! Thanks everyone for the input I think in going to get the solid link. I have another question though what would be a fair price on a solid link? I've seen mint 2000-2003 with full papers going for 15k and that's about right where my budget is. This is my first time buying a watch for over 7k so I just want to get a gauge for fair market value from people who might know the market better than me.
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Going by year or serial can be risky. Sometimes there is overlap when Rolex starts applying new features. Don't assume that if it is a certain year or serial that it is a newer bracelet. That is another reason why I would deal with a trusted seller here. They are honest about what is on their watches.
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I would suggest to get one with the new style clasp, just like the picture in the second post.
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All that being talked about. If the older bracelet has been taken care of it can last you for years. You can always sent it Michel Young in Hong Kong an can be made like new.
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Solid 18K Gold Center-link all the way and any day....
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Why? We all have some stretch as we age.
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I would recommend my wife wears mine more then I do. They are nice but not an everyday wearer for me.
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The newer type or so called solid links are still machined but they are machined with holes drilled right through the metal. So in the real world they are as well technically hollow but not to the same extent.And in every day wearing would doubt if any real difference in strength or longevity of life as long as you keep them clean..Now that's the simple answer in the life of any Rolex oyster bracelet or any other keep it clean and they will last 20-30 years plus.Even the older type Oyster bracelets have been stress tested and will take 525 lbs pressure before breaking that's enough to seriously damage your wrist.
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If this will be a lifetime keeper you only need the watch - not the frills. I think best deals are here on TRF, but you will find fine choices elsewhere. Your budget is fine - get the best condition and serviced watch available within that budget.
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Old one: New (current one): So the either bracelet links may be fine but the clasp can cause issues...
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