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Kingsking · 19 October 2013, 02:01 PM

This is a 14060 E serial 1990-91 sub. However the Bezel seems off right? I've only ever seen the full 60 minute marker on Milsubs. Does anyone have any info on this?, is it aftermarket?, the rest of the watch seems ok serial numbers on band,watch,clasp look ok, movement looks fine too. Thanks for any help.

JakobZ · 19 October 2013, 08:51 PM

Never seen before and the hands aren't really matching at all... I wouldn't!

Jason71 · 19 October 2013, 09:02 PM

The bezel insert is aftermarket. No question

cop414 · 19 October 2013, 09:06 PM

Bezel looks wonky, lume on the hands doesn't match the dial... hmmm...

Baselman · 19 October 2013, 09:11 PM

Bezel n hands aftermarket replacements god knows what's inside that steer clear

Cc1966 · 19 October 2013, 09:15 PM

Appears to be a true "franken" watch. I'd pass on this one unless you want to do a little bit of tinkering to get back into form.

77T · 19 October 2013, 09:33 PM

With the knowledge you gained already here you may be able to negotiate a better deal. You said the movement and bracelet looked fine - but who verified authenticity?

If all else is truly authentic then replacing the bezel isn't a big deal. If it can be had for good price you may have a good find.

HL65 · 19 October 2013, 09:39 PM

Aftermarket or better word "fake" and I would look elsewhere!

Kingsking · 19 October 2013, 10:43 PM

hanks for the help fella's I had little doubt the bezel was aftermarket, here are some other pictures, if you can give me an opinion. If all that is wrong is the bezel and I can talk down the price it might be worth the price.

Tools · 20 October 2013, 01:57 AM

It's certainly up to you to decide.. The watch looks fine except for the insert..

You may be able to negotiate, but with a new insert only around 60 bucks, there may not be a lot to discuss..

bayerische · 20 October 2013, 02:04 AM

The bezel is aftermarket. You can always try and hassle the price a bit.

SLS · 20 October 2013, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

It's certainly up to you to decide.. The watch looks fine except for the insert..

You may be able to negotiate, but with a new insert only around 60 bucks, there may not be a lot to discuss..

Agree, unless you want to source a tritium insert and hands, which will cost you quite a bit more....I have not checked recently, but I would guess in the $500 range.

It really depends on what you want, if you want to find a watch with matching dial, hands & bezel insert...keep looking.
Scott

eeh100773 · 20 October 2013, 04:06 AM

A lot of great input on this thread from people that have a ton of knowledge. The input regarding the hands was spot on. That being said, I do like the look of that bezel on the 14060.

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Kingsking · 20 October 2013, 12:05 PM

really appreciate all the advice and suggestions. Thanks a bunch guys.

19 October 2013, 02:01 PM	#1
Kingsking "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 641	Could use help with this Bezel This is a 14060 E serial 1990-91 sub. However the Bezel seems off right? I've only ever seen the full 60 minute marker on Milsubs. Does anyone have any info on this?, is it aftermarket?, the rest of the watch seems ok serial numbers on band,watch,clasp look ok, movement looks fine too. Thanks for any help.

19 October 2013, 08:51 PM	#2
JakobZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Jakob Location: Sweden Posts: 183	Never seen before and the hands aren't really matching at all... I wouldn't! __________________ JAZQT @ Instagram

19 October 2013, 09:02 PM	#3
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	The bezel insert is aftermarket. No question __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

19 October 2013, 09:06 PM	#4
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,244	Bezel looks wonky, lume on the hands doesn't match the dial... hmmm... __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

19 October 2013, 09:15 PM	#6
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Appears to be a true "franken" watch. I'd pass on this one unless you want to do a little bit of tinkering to get back into form. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

19 October 2013, 09:11 PM	#5
Baselman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Switzerland Watch: 1665 GreatWhite SD Posts: 1,527	Bezel n hands aftermarket replacements god knows what's inside that steer clear

19 October 2013, 09:33 PM	#7
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	With the knowledge you gained already here you may be able to negotiate a better deal. You said the movement and bracelet looked fine - but who verified authenticity? If all else is truly authentic then replacing the bezel isn't a big deal. If it can be had for good price you may have a good find. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

19 October 2013, 09:39 PM	#8
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,007	Aftermarket or better word "fake" and I would look elsewhere! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

19 October 2013, 10:43 PM	#9
Kingsking "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 641	hanks for the help fella's I had little doubt the bezel was aftermarket, here are some other pictures, if you can give me an opinion. If all that is wrong is the bezel and I can talk down the price it might be worth the price. Last edited by Tools; 20 October 2013 at 01:54 AM..

20 October 2013, 01:57 AM	#10
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	It's certainly up to you to decide.. The watch looks fine except for the insert.. You may be able to negotiate, but with a new insert only around 60 bucks, there may not be a lot to discuss.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

20 October 2013, 02:04 AM	#11
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	The bezel is aftermarket. You can always try and hassle the price a bit. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

20 October 2013, 04:06 AM	#13
eeh100773 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: "Fast" Eddie Location: Asbury Park NJ Watch: 14060 T Series '96 Posts: 1,482	A lot of great input on this thread from people that have a ton of knowledge. The input regarding the hands was spot on. That being said, I do like the look of that bezel on the 14060. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free __________________ Instagram: @clocksontherocks

20 October 2013, 12:05 PM	#14
Kingsking "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 641	really appreciate all the advice and suggestions. Thanks a bunch guys.

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