Authentication experts... Does this dial and bezel look okay?

[soapy]

Hi, I've lurked for a long time, but this dilemma has now made me finally register, which is a good thing, I guess.

I wonder if I could enlist some of the Rolex WIS wisdom here... Looking for a black dial and bezel to mod my Sub C LV... Thinking of either a green bezel with black dial, essentially a ceramic 50th, or perhaps a reverse-50th... Green dial and black bezel could look pretty sharp. Found this from an eBay seller.

A fairly famous independent Rolex shop and service outfit in downtown Los Angeles (hint: I believe they are the only guys who can do a ceramic bezel insert swap in the US) has said that after examining these photos, the consensus of everybody there is that these are genuine parts...

However a woman I spoke with at the RSC in Beverly Hills said that she didn't think Rolex dials have any numbers on the back...

What are your thoughts?





















Very appreciated!

[crowncollection]

I saw these on eBay a good price They look authentic. But I have not personally seen the back of a new sub dial. The bezel assembly is 1 grand I believe and the dial around 700. It just seems to good to be true both for around 900 if I remember correctly. He also has about 5 or more for sale.


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[AbsolutelyROLEX!]

Fake or aftermarket dials always have the markers glued on.
On This dial the markers have been properly drilled and rivited

[Cc1966]

If it's a Fake, it's a d@mn good one!

[socalwatchcollector]

Agree with CC if it is fake someone certainly put some time into this project

[soapy]

Thanks for the replies so far! I agree with the consensus here that if it is a fake, it's a really, really good one. That said, it does happen, ha ha.

My main concern has been not only the back of that dial, but as crowncollection said, it's a pretty amazing price for the combo. The seller is in India, and called "worldcollexions". They joined eBay in march of 2012 and have 222 feedbacks, one negative (it's related to an item arriving damaged), and thus far have been very communicative. The dial and bezel isn't even $900... Just $799, with $20 shipping. I am very familiar with the old Rolex buying adage: "If it's too good to be true..."

Then again (and if naming a store is frowned on here, I apologize, and mods please edit) ABC Watchwerks in downtown LA thinks it looks good based on the pics... That's the consensus of several people there. I think many people would agree that ABC is definitely very good at what they do. But once again, I'm unsure if they've seen the back of a newer ceramic sub dial. Not many have, after all.

I should also mention that I went so far as to call a place in Boston (it actually appears to be an office with two guys) called Elite Time to find out the deal on the seller of this dial/bezel combo... Elite Time had purchased a similar GMT combo from the seller, and left good feedback. The guy I spoke with at Elite said the seller was "100 percent legit". Elite Time itself appears to be a legitimate gray-market Rolex dealer and repair shop, but as a buddy pointed out, maybe they are partnered with the seller in India and it's a conspiracy, ha ha. Buying Rolex parts sure makes you paranoid, lol.

[soapy]

Just thought I'd post an update... Both Wanna Buy A Watch and ABC Watchwerks (for my money the top Rolex experts in LA) have confirmed that these are indeed genuine. Pretty terrific deal.

[djemmtee]

both the dial and the bezel insert look genuine to me.

[accce]

Originally Posted by soapy

Thanks for the replies so far! I agree with the consensus here that if it is a fake, it's a really, really good one. That said, it does happen, ha ha.

My main concern has been not only the back of that dial, but as crowncollection said, it's a pretty amazing price for the combo. The seller is in India, and called "worldcollexions". They joined eBay in march of 2012 and have 222 feedbacks, one negative (it's related to an item arriving damaged), and thus far have been very communicative. The dial and bezel isn't even $900... Just $799, with $20 shipping. I am very familiar with the old Rolex buying adage: "If it's too good to be true..."

Then again (and if naming a store is frowned on here, I apologize, and mods please edit) ABC Watchwerks in downtown LA thinks it looks good based on the pics... That's the consensus of several people there. I think many people would agree that ABC is definitely very good at what they do. But once again, I'm unsure if they've seen the back of a newer ceramic sub dial. Not many have, after all.

I should also mention that I went so far as to call a place in Boston (it actually appears to be an office with two guys) called Elite Time to find out the deal on the seller of this dial/bezel combo... Elite Time had purchased a similar GMT combo from the seller, and left good feedback. The guy I spoke with at Elite said the seller was "100 percent legit". Elite Time itself appears to be a legitimate gray-market Rolex dealer and repair shop, but as a buddy pointed out, maybe they are partnered with the seller in India and it's a conspiracy, ha ha. Buying Rolex parts sure makes you paranoid, lol.

ABC has had my SubC apart so they would know what they are looking at.

[Mnicolini300]

I just paid on eBay for the genuine dial and bezel set up. I guess worst that can happen is I file a PayPal dispute if it isn't anything but gen. If it's a fake that's that good it deserves to sit on my watch lol

[mymanmatt]

The dial I think is 100% gen, but the pearl doesn't look right to me.

[drifter01]

Originally Posted by anderl712000

Fake or aftermarket dials always have the markers glued on.
On This dial the markers have been properly drilled and rivited

Not true. I've seen many with dials drilled and markers riveted.

Dave

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by drifter01

Not true. I've seen many with dials drilled and markers riveted.

Dave

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