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gmh1013 · 4 January 2014, 12:05 PM

http://news.cnet.com/mcdonalds-hires...0063732-1.html

I don't know about a special order though

SUBversive · 4 January 2014, 01:38 PM

The food has been fake for a long time. Now the cashiers are fake too.

East Bay Rider · 4 January 2014, 01:57 PM

I eschew self checkout lanes at supermarkets and Home Depot/Lowes or anyplace else I find them. Screw them - I'm not helping them reduce staff when there's already too many people out of work. Every one of those lanes is a person out of a job.

cop414 · 4 January 2014, 02:22 PM

Good call Bill.

wantonebad · 4 January 2014, 02:43 PM

The sentiment is understandable Bill, the reality is you are doing far less than putting a finger in the dike. CS jobs aren't what they used to be, and they are getting more and more specialized. Very soon retail checkout positions will go the way of icemen hauling huge chunks of frozen water up stairs. Adapt or perish...

JMHO

SUBversive · 4 January 2014, 02:57 PM

Pay more. Get less.

GradyPhilpott · 4 January 2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

I eschew self checkout lanes at supermarkets and Home Depot/Lowes or anyplace else I find them. Screw them - I'm not helping them reduce staff when there's already too many people out of work. Every one of those lanes is a person out of a job.

I use them almost all the time, because I can get in and out a lot faster that way.

I certainly understand the principle you refer to and I was reluctant to use them at first, but when I go the grocery store, expedience is paramount.

gmh1013 · 4 January 2014, 03:53 PM

I see it as a give and take you lose some low pay positions for a few higher pay positions to program and keep the machines up. Truthfully they may give better service than most taking orders at Micky D's.

seand442 · 4 January 2014, 03:55 PM

I'm not sure if a computer is an upgrade or downgrade from some of the folks working the counter at some restaurants.

gmh1013 · 4 January 2014, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

I eschew self checkout lanes at supermarkets and Home Depot/Lowes or anyplace else I find them. Screw them - I'm not helping them reduce staff when there's already too many people out of work. Every one of those lanes is a person out of a job.

I refuse to use the ones at Kroger....I don't think my wife uses them at Wal-Mart (I refuse to shop or walk into any Wal-Mart) but she goes with daughter. I always prefer Costco to them all.

Frosty · 4 January 2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

I eschew self checkout lanes at supermarkets and Home Depot/Lowes or anyplace else I find them. Screw them - I'm not helping them reduce staff when there's already too many people out of work. Every one of those lanes is a person out of a job.

+1 I do not eat at McDonald's

I go to In-N-Out. The food is better, they pay their employee's a good wage, benefits, and profit sharing.

MitchSteel · 4 January 2014, 04:09 PM

Zero,I mean Zero fast food for my family, not even coffee.......

I've boycotted WalMart,Fast food joints, anything made in China.....been almost 5 years, it'll stay that way

Dr. Robert · 4 January 2014, 04:54 PM

Disgusting, no interaction w/ humans, F$&@ Mickey Ds

Laszlo · 4 January 2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Disgusting, no interaction w/ humans, F$&@ Mickey Ds

You could always talk to your cheeseburger.

Dr. Robert · 4 January 2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

You could always talk to your cheeseburger.

I love my Big Mac our relationship is golden

Laszlo · 4 January 2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

I love my Big Mac our relationship is golden

The Apple Pie and I go way back.

threemonkeys · 4 January 2014, 06:35 PM

I honestly can't eat any of their food. Remember 'pink slime'?

Darlinboy · 4 January 2014, 09:51 PM

Next, you'll be grabbing your own bun, patty, and special sauce as you roll by (or a robot will grab them for you!).

Automation will continue to expand into all aspects of our lives the moment the return on a capital investment is more attractive to businesses than the return on labor costs.

Welcome to the future!

mtrunner · 4 January 2014, 10:26 PM

I never eat at McDonald's but I love self checkout. It is way way faster. New Yorkers who have ever been in a cashier line at Duane Reade vs. self checkout at CVS will understand what I am talking about. If the CEO of Duane Reade is reading this, install self checkout because you have the slowest employees on earth so now I avoid them like the plague.

anilzat · 4 January 2014, 11:14 PM

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I'm glad I don't have to worry about that, the next generation will have to. I think robots are the future not a fantasy and it's close to becoming a reality. Look at what has happened in just the past decade alone.

SUBversive · 4 January 2014, 11:30 PM

I did read that some stores were rethinking the self scanner due to issues with the machine and increased loss from accidental or purposeful no scan on some items going through. That being said I've not seen first hand any store take them out. I agree with bill in terms of jobs but they are much quicker especially in walmart. I've used one in cvs and had a major slowdown when the computer needed an employee to come over to verify I was over 18 ... Buying cough medicine. However self service in the name of cutting costs is here to stay. Look at the panera bread model where they expect you to bus your own table.

Rolex king 68 · 4 January 2014, 11:44 PM

More people on the unemployment line!

mr.president1 · 5 January 2014, 03:09 AM

I don't think all the people who eat a McDonalds in general know how to operate a self-check out system... Lol

Trouble15 · 5 January 2014, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.president1

I don't think all the people who eat a McDonalds in general know how to operate a self-check out system... Lol

Cru Jones · 5 January 2014, 04:06 AM

It's great when on a road trip. So much faster.

I mean, it's fast food, after all.

ocabj · 5 January 2014, 04:19 AM

I saw touch screen ordering machines at a couple Carl's Jr a few years ago in a couple of locations, but they never caught on. Granted, I haven't been in many more since then other than the ones close to me. The only issue I see with self-checkout in a fast food joint is that there really isn't any time saved, so customers aren't going to care to use them.

In a supermarket or store, self-checkout is great because it's often not a long line (if any) and it's faster checkout (no small talk banter with a human cashier).

But given the recent uproar over low wages in fast food, I think this move by McDonalds is going to actually going to 'succeed' in terms of being a permanent fixture in the fast-food marketplace.

GB-man · 5 January 2014, 04:30 AM

I almost always use self checkout in grocery and lowes/HD etc. Saves me time and I agree with Marc regarding efforts being futile to stop the trend.

SUBversive · 5 January 2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.president1

I don't think all the people who eat a McDonalds in general know how to operate a self-check out system... Lol

Very bad.

4 January 2014, 12:05 PM	#1
gmh1013 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: greg Location: Tempe AZ Watch: GMT Posts: 5,703	McDonalds New Order System http://news.cnet.com/mcdonalds-hires...0063732-1.html I don't know about a special order though

4 January 2014, 01:57 PM	#3
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,073	I eschew self checkout lanes at supermarkets and Home Depot/Lowes or anyplace else I find them. Screw them - I'm not helping them reduce staff when there's already too many people out of work. Every one of those lanes is a person out of a job. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

4 January 2014, 02:22 PM	#4
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,244	Good call Bill. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

4 January 2014, 02:43 PM	#5
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	The sentiment is understandable Bill, the reality is you are doing far less than putting a finger in the dike. CS jobs aren't what they used to be, and they are getting more and more specialized. Very soon retail checkout positions will go the way of icemen hauling huge chunks of frozen water up stairs. Adapt or perish... JMHO __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

4 January 2014, 03:55 PM	#9
seand442 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Earth Watch: 116610 Posts: 3,455	I'm not sure if a computer is an upgrade or downgrade from some of the folks working the counter at some restaurants. __________________ NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL. THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

4 January 2014, 01:38 PM	#2
SUBversive Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: ri Watch: Sun Dial Posts: 14,346	The food has been fake for a long time. Now the cashiers are fake too.

4 January 2014, 02:57 PM	#6
SUBversive Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: ri Watch: Sun Dial Posts: 14,346	Pay more. Get less.

4 January 2014, 03:53 PM	#8
gmh1013 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: greg Location: Tempe AZ Watch: GMT Posts: 5,703	I see it as a give and take you lose some low pay positions for a few higher pay positions to program and keep the machines up. Truthfully they may give better service than most taking orders at Micky D's.

4 January 2014, 04:09 PM	#12
MitchSteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: MDangerSteel Location: Canada Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 2,301	Zero,I mean Zero fast food for my family, not even coffee....... I've boycotted WalMart,Fast food joints, anything made in China.....been almost 5 years, it'll stay that way __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel

4 January 2014, 04:54 PM	#13
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,277	Disgusting, no interaction w/ humans, F$&@ Mickey Ds __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

4 January 2014, 06:35 PM	#17
threemonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Craig Location: Seattle-ish, USA Watch: GMTIIc, AK, LVc Posts: 7,022	I honestly can't eat any of their food. Remember 'pink slime'?

4 January 2014, 09:51 PM	#18
Darlinboy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: DB Location: :noitacoL Watch: :hctaW Posts: 6,703	Next, you'll be grabbing your own bun, patty, and special sauce as you roll by (or a robot will grab them for you!). Automation will continue to expand into all aspects of our lives the moment the return on a capital investment is more attractive to businesses than the return on labor costs. Welcome to the future! __________________ Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.

4 January 2014, 10:26 PM	#19
mtrunner 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,835	I never eat at McDonald's but I love self checkout. It is way way faster. New Yorkers who have ever been in a cashier line at Duane Reade vs. self checkout at CVS will understand what I am talking about. If the CEO of Duane Reade is reading this, install self checkout because you have the slowest employees on earth so now I avoid them like the plague.

4 January 2014, 11:14 PM	#20
anilzat Banned Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: John Williams Location: Alaska outback Watch: GMT Posts: 1,051	1429066-so.jpg I'm glad I don't have to worry about that, the next generation will have to. I think robots are the future not a fantasy and it's close to becoming a reality. Look at what has happened in just the past decade alone.

4 January 2014, 11:30 PM	#21
SUBversive Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: ri Watch: Sun Dial Posts: 14,346	I did read that some stores were rethinking the self scanner due to issues with the machine and increased loss from accidental or purposeful no scan on some items going through. That being said I've not seen first hand any store take them out. I agree with bill in terms of jobs but they are much quicker especially in walmart. I've used one in cvs and had a major slowdown when the computer needed an employee to come over to verify I was over 18 ... Buying cough medicine. However self service in the name of cutting costs is here to stay. Look at the panera bread model where they expect you to bus your own table.

4 January 2014, 11:44 PM	#22
Rolex king 68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NewJersey/NewYork Watch: Patek 5074P Posts: 207	More people on the unemployment line!

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mr.president1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio,UnitedStates Watch: ROLEX OMEGA Posts: 1,458	I don't think all the people who eat a McDonalds in general know how to operate a self-check out system... Lol __________________ ROLEX & OMEGA

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Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	It's great when on a road trip. So much faster. I mean, it's fast food, after all.

5 January 2014, 04:19 AM	#26
ocabj "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jonathan Ocab Location: Riverside, CA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 279	I saw touch screen ordering machines at a couple Carl's Jr a few years ago in a couple of locations, but they never caught on. Granted, I haven't been in many more since then other than the ones close to me. The only issue I see with self-checkout in a fast food joint is that there really isn't any time saved, so customers aren't going to care to use them. In a supermarket or store, self-checkout is great because it's often not a long line (if any) and it's faster checkout (no small talk banter with a human cashier). But given the recent uproar over low wages in fast food, I think this move by McDonalds is going to actually going to 'succeed' in terms of being a permanent fixture in the fast-food marketplace.

5 January 2014, 04:30 AM	#27
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	I almost always use self checkout in grocery and lowes/HD etc. Saves me time and I agree with Marc regarding efforts being futile to stop the trend.

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