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basicksickness · 5 February 2014, 10:27 PM

So some guy from italy wants to buy ny rolex. He has good feedback buying/selling on there.Anything I should be worried about?

beshannon · 5 February 2014, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by basicksickness

So some guy from italy wants to buy ny rolex. He has good feedback buying/selling on there.Anything I should be worried about?

Besides everything?

What could possibly go wrong about a sale on a website that makes money from people listing things? When the item is a piece of high end luxury jewelry and the only thing you have to decide to send money to a total stranger are a bunch of pictures, how do you know that the pictures are even of the real item? Italy?

Good luck

powerfunk · 5 February 2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Besides everything?

What could possibly go wrong about a sale on a website that makes money from people listing things? When the item is a piece of high end luxury jewelry and the only thing you have to decide to send money to a total stranger are a bunch of pictures, how do you know that the pictures are even of the real item? Italy?

Good luck

Sounds like he's selling the watch, not buying. I know many eBay sellers don't ship to Italy for whatever reason.

GedgeDS · 5 February 2014, 10:52 PM

Personally I think Ebay does have its place and have purchased watches from ebay sellers in the past (after viewing in person).

The issue from a sellers point of view is an old scam used quite extensively on ebay -

- Buyer buys Rolex
- Buyer receives Rolex
- Buyer then files case with Ebay / Paypal claiming watch is fake
- Buyer buys cheap $300 watch from chinese experts
- Buyer takes watch to mainstream jeweler for authentication
- Buyer claim your watch failed authentication including paperwork
- Ebay / Paypal FORCE you to refund the buyer on receipt of item
- Buyer sends you cheap chinese fake with original packaging
- Paypal write an 'E Cheque' against your account so buying is guarenteed refund
- You either have money taken from account or Paypal takes legal proceedings against Seller

That's the long and short of it, they are a law to themselves and ALWAYS side with the buyer. Only solution is to take private legal action, here in England we did manage to start court proceedings and the buyer decided to settle a few days before he was due to appear in court. Messy situation for all.

Cheers,

beshannon · 5 February 2014, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by powerfunk

Sounds like he's selling the watch, not buying. I know many eBay sellers don't ship to Italy for whatever reason.

Ah my apologies for misreading, ok lets see . . .

So you want to sell your high dollar luxury watch to a stranger in a foreign country. You hope you actually get funds that will clear and that the item makes it through customs to its destination and that the buyer will like it and want to keep it as opposed to return it and want their money back?

Again, good luck.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 5 February 2014, 11:16 PM

I side with all above....
Sell the darn thing here on the forum and be done with it!

basicksickness · 5 February 2014, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GedgeDS

Personally I think Ebay does have its place and have purchased watches from ebay sellers in the past (after viewing in person).

The issue from a sellers point of view is an old scam used quite extensively on ebay -

- Buyer buys Rolex
- Buyer receives Rolex
- Buyer then files case with Ebay / Paypal claiming watch is fake
- Buyer buys cheap $300 watch from chinese experts
- Buyer takes watch to mainstream jeweler for authentication
- Buyer claim your watch failed authentication including paperwork
- Ebay / Paypal FORCE you to refund the buyer on receipt of item
- Buyer sends you cheap chinese fake with original packaging
- Paypal write an 'E Cheque' against your account so buying is guarenteed refund
- You either have money taken from account or Paypal takes legal proceedings against Seller

That's the long and short of it, they are a law to themselves and ALWAYS side with the buyer. Only solution is to take private legal action, here in England we did manage to start court proceedings and the buyer decided to settle a few days before he was due to appear in court. Messy situation for all.

Cheers,

yes yes.. this is my issue... he had good feedback -this is why i am on the fence. maybe i will try to persuade him off of ebay. what if i post "watch as-is no returns"?

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 6 February 2014, 12:34 AM

Sell it here on the forum! no fees, and you can check peoples feedback!
You can request bank transfer too and no danger of getting scammed!

basicksickness · 6 February 2014, 02:57 AM

1. yea, i'm getting close to that. thing is, on here i have no feedback, but i am good on ebay. will people have no problem wiring to me on here?

2. the guy was willing to go off of ebay, and just do it through paypal, should i still be worried?

Cc1966 · 6 February 2014, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by basicksickness

1. yea, i'm getting close to that. thing is, on here i have no feedback, but i am good on ebay. will people have no problem wiring to me on here?

2. the guy was willing to go off of ebay, and just do it through paypal, should i still be worried?

Everyone has to start somewhere...Do NOT do the deal around ebay if you do decide to go that route (bad idea IMHO) as you lose even more protection. Slow down, and sell your watch in your home country...

basicksickness · 6 February 2014, 03:05 AM

oh wow, i didnt know that i risked loosing more protection... i shall pump the breaks...

crowncollection · 6 February 2014, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GedgeDS

Personally I think Ebay does have its place and have purchased watches from ebay sellers in the past (after viewing in person).

The issue from a sellers point of view is an old scam used quite extensively on ebay -

- Buyer buys Rolex
- Buyer receives Rolex
- Buyer then files case with Ebay / Paypal claiming watch is fake
- Buyer buys cheap $300 watch from chinese experts
- Buyer takes watch to mainstream jeweler for authentication
- Buyer claim your watch failed authentication including paperwork
- Ebay / Paypal FORCE you to refund the buyer on receipt of item
- Buyer sends you cheap chinese fake with original packaging
- Paypal write an 'E Cheque' against your account so buying is guarenteed refund
- You either have money taken from account or Paypal takes legal proceedings against Seller

That's the long and short of it, they are a law to themselves and ALWAYS side with the buyer. Only solution is to take private legal action, here in England we did manage to start court proceedings and the buyer decided to settle a few days before he was due to appear in court. Messy situation for all.

Cheers,

I know about this scam but best not to post on the net IMHO and give people ideas.

basicksickness · 6 February 2014, 07:38 AM

i mean we all know about the scam.... but i do agree

GedgeDS · 6 February 2014, 06:57 PM

Sorry is just common sense I assumed, the ways to help against the above is to either take a deposit through ebay so if it does go tits up you both 'take a hit' or to say bank transfer / cash on collection only. I have sold a handful of low end rolex's on ebay and have generally
Only had good experiences, mostly as legit buyers are willing to travel and provide cash on collection.

Knappo 1307 · 7 February 2014, 12:31 AM

Ebay fees and international shipping are more a pain in the A** to me.........

TempoKing · 7 February 2014, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basicksickness

So some guy from italy wants to buy ny rolex. He has good feedback buying/selling on there.Anything I should be worried about?

If he has good feedback for many years as both a buyer and a seller
of rolex watches - I do not see a problem.

If you make the sale.. pm me so I can give you a few tips
about safe delivery and shipping method etc.

5 February 2014, 10:27 PM	#1
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	ebay rolexes So some guy from italy wants to buy ny rolex. He has good feedback buying/selling on there.Anything I should be worried about?

5 February 2014, 11:16 PM	#6
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	I side with all above.... Sell the darn thing here on the forum and be done with it! __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

6 February 2014, 12:34 AM	#8
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Sell it here on the forum! no fees, and you can check peoples feedback! You can request bank transfer too and no danger of getting scammed! __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder Last edited by AbsolutelyROLEX!; 6 February 2014 at 12:35 AM.. Reason: add

5 February 2014, 10:52 PM	#4
GedgeDS Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 50	Personally I think Ebay does have its place and have purchased watches from ebay sellers in the past (after viewing in person). The issue from a sellers point of view is an old scam used quite extensively on ebay - - Buyer buys Rolex - Buyer receives Rolex - Buyer then files case with Ebay / Paypal claiming watch is fake - Buyer buys cheap $300 watch from chinese experts - Buyer takes watch to mainstream jeweler for authentication - Buyer claim your watch failed authentication including paperwork - Ebay / Paypal FORCE you to refund the buyer on receipt of item - Buyer sends you cheap chinese fake with original packaging - Paypal write an 'E Cheque' against your account so buying is guarenteed refund - You either have money taken from account or Paypal takes legal proceedings against Seller That's the long and short of it, they are a law to themselves and ALWAYS side with the buyer. Only solution is to take private legal action, here in England we did manage to start court proceedings and the buyer decided to settle a few days before he was due to appear in court. Messy situation for all. Cheers,

6 February 2014, 02:57 AM	#9
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	1. yea, i'm getting close to that. thing is, on here i have no feedback, but i am good on ebay. will people have no problem wiring to me on here? 2. the guy was willing to go off of ebay, and just do it through paypal, should i still be worried?

6 February 2014, 03:05 AM	#11
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	oh wow, i didnt know that i risked loosing more protection... i shall pump the breaks...

6 February 2014, 07:38 AM	#13
basicksickness "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 156	i mean we all know about the scam.... but i do agree

6 February 2014, 06:57 PM	#14
GedgeDS Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 50	Sorry is just common sense I assumed, the ways to help against the above is to either take a deposit through ebay so if it does go tits up you both 'take a hit' or to say bank transfer / cash on collection only. I have sold a handful of low end rolex's on ebay and have generally Only had good experiences, mostly as legit buyers are willing to travel and provide cash on collection.

7 February 2014, 12:31 AM	#15
Knappo 1307 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,561	Ebay fees and international shipping are more a pain in the A** to me.........

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