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AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 08:20 AM

I just picked up a Y serial numbered Submariner from a place that sells pre-owned Rolex Watches but not a AD. I had them look through the jeweler's loop but they said they didn't see the Laser Etched Crown but I have seen it with the flash from my phone in a dark room. Below is the picture I took and would just like some opinions on the authenticity. Please excuse the picture, it was taken with my Galaxy Note 3, although its a 13 megapixl cam not the best to try to take such a picture in a dark closet. Thanks.

joe100 · 11 February 2014, 10:08 AM

Looks like a blurry picture of a LEC. How about photos of the rest of your watch?

To be honest, if you had misgivings about authenticity, why did you buy it in the first place?

coralfarmer84 · 11 February 2014, 10:19 AM

Isn't a y serial too old to have factory LEC? Thought that didn't start until they started engraving the rehaut?

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by coralfarmer84

Isn't a y serial too old to have factory LEC? Thought that didn't start until they started engraving the rehaut?

No, my Y Sub has an LEC and no engraved rehaut.

coralfarmer84 · 11 February 2014, 11:15 AM

I can't seem to find it on my y serial GMT

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by coralfarmer84

I can't seem to find it on my y serial GMT

I think they started in 2003. Mine is a Y5, I'm guessing yours is a Y1,2,3 or 4 if there's no LEC.

coralfarmer84 · 11 February 2014, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I think they started in 2003. Mine is a Y5, I'm guessing yours is a Y1,2,3 or 4 if there's no LEC.

You gave me a headache

I've been staring cross eyed at it for 20 min now

almost popped a blood vessel

coralfarmer84 · 11 February 2014, 11:48 AM

Just pulled out the paperwork and the serial starts with Y1 so guess that explains it

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by coralfarmer84

Just pulled out the paperwork and the serial starts with Y1 so guess that explains it

Yep.

AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by joe100

Looks like a blurry picture of a LEC. How about photos of the rest of your watch?

To be honest, if you had misgivings about authenticity, why did you buy it in the first place?

No misgivings, just wanted some opinions. Mine is a Y883XXX serial number. I have hade a few SS Datejusts but never a Sub and this is the first one with the LEC.

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 12:57 PM

Looks fine...sharp lugs, sharp bezel and all that. While we have the magnifier out, and are in deep inspection mode, I assume your clasp code starts with either AD, DT, or DE.

AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Looks fine...sharp lugs, sharp bezel and all that. While we have the magnifier out, and are in deep inspection mode, I assume your clasp code starts with either AD, DT, or DE.

Looks like AD6? Any clarification?

AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 01:18 PM

Did a little research. I believe the AD refers to the year 2003 on the bracelet. Also case starts with Y serial number also 2002/2003. Now the #6 after the AD might refer to the month of June? Not sure but will appreciate any feed back.

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 01:24 PM

Yep, AD6 signifies the bracelet clasp was stamped in June 2003. The watch itself can be later than the clasp code by a few months or even years, but not usually earlier (if so, it's a replacement clasp). So your watch is likely a latter 2003, and so probably a Y5,6,7,8 or 9?

AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 01:44 PM

Serial start with Y883XXX.

AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 01:44 PM

I turned 40 today and this was a gift from my wife. Like I said I have had a few SS Datejusts over the years but she knew I was eyeing this Sub for awhile.

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlBacon!974

Serial start wiyh Y883XXX.

There you go then, everything checks out.

coralfarmer84 · 11 February 2014, 01:49 PM

Reading along and learning at the same time. DT here

AlBacon!974 · 11 February 2014, 01:51 PM

Good to know. It just threw me for a loop (pun intended)when the jeweler ssid he didn't see the LEC on the cyrstal when I was pretty sure it was there. He also couldn't find it on a Z serial Datejust which should have had one.

Old Expat Beast · 11 February 2014, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coralfarmer84

Reading along and learning at the same time. DT here

Mine too.

mruhland31 · 11 February 2014, 02:31 PM

Looks good. Stop worring and start enjoying. Congrats!!!

Cc1966 · 12 February 2014, 02:03 AM

Put away the loupe and enjoy it mate!

11 February 2014, 08:20 AM	#1
AlBacon!974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Nunyo Location: Texas Watch: 1803 Day-Date Posts: 427	want to get some opinions I just picked up a Y serial numbered Submariner from a place that sells pre-owned Rolex Watches but not a AD. I had them look through the jeweler's loop but they said they didn't see the Laser Etched Crown but I have seen it with the flash from my phone in a dark room. Below is the picture I took and would just like some opinions on the authenticity. Please excuse the picture, it was taken with my Galaxy Note 3, although its a 13 megapixl cam not the best to try to take such a picture in a dark closet. Thanks.

11 February 2014, 10:08 AM	#2
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Looks like a blurry picture of a LEC. How about photos of the rest of your watch? To be honest, if you had misgivings about authenticity, why did you buy it in the first place? __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

11 February 2014, 12:57 PM	#11
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Looks fine...sharp lugs, sharp bezel and all that. While we have the magnifier out, and are in deep inspection mode, I assume your clasp code starts with either AD, DT, or DE. __________________ _______________________

11 February 2014, 01:24 PM	#14
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Yep, AD6 signifies the bracelet clasp was stamped in June 2003. The watch itself can be later than the clasp code by a few months or even years, but not usually earlier (if so, it's a replacement clasp). So your watch is likely a latter 2003, and so probably a Y5,6,7,8 or 9? __________________ _______________________

12 February 2014, 02:03 AM	#22
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Put away the loupe and enjoy it mate! __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

11 February 2014, 10:19 AM	#3
coralfarmer84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United States Watch: Rolex, PP Posts: 1,198	Isn't a y serial too old to have factory LEC? Thought that didn't start until they started engraving the rehaut?

11 February 2014, 11:15 AM	#5
coralfarmer84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United States Watch: Rolex, PP Posts: 1,198	I can't seem to find it on my y serial GMT

11 February 2014, 11:48 AM	#8
coralfarmer84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United States Watch: Rolex, PP Posts: 1,198	Just pulled out the paperwork and the serial starts with Y1 so guess that explains it

11 February 2014, 01:18 PM	#13
AlBacon!974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Nunyo Location: Texas Watch: 1803 Day-Date Posts: 427	Did a little research. I believe the AD refers to the year 2003 on the bracelet. Also case starts with Y serial number also 2002/2003. Now the #6 after the AD might refer to the month of June? Not sure but will appreciate any feed back.

11 February 2014, 01:44 PM	#15
AlBacon!974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Nunyo Location: Texas Watch: 1803 Day-Date Posts: 427	Serial start with Y883XXX.

11 February 2014, 01:49 PM	#18
coralfarmer84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United States Watch: Rolex, PP Posts: 1,198	Reading along and learning at the same time. DT here

11 February 2014, 01:51 PM	#19
AlBacon!974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Nunyo Location: Texas Watch: 1803 Day-Date Posts: 427	Good to know. It just threw me for a loop (pun intended)when the jeweler ssid he didn't see the LEC on the cyrstal when I was pretty sure it was there. He also couldn't find it on a Z serial Datejust which should have had one.

11 February 2014, 02:31 PM	#21
mruhland31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Santa Clarita CA Posts: 1,028	Looks good. Stop worring and start enjoying. Congrats!!!

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