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Old 12 February 2014, 02:25 PM   #1
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fake band fake band and more fake bands

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271399728299

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271399777876#ht_3775wt_900

be aware guys this is TIME AND GEMS back under a different name i believe.Same crappy dials and same phtots and background i could be wrong but i do not think so BEWARE they are back at it under a new ebay name i think.

all their listings have fake bands
http://www.ebay.com/sch/certifiedtim...1&_ipg=&_from=
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Old 12 February 2014, 02:56 PM   #2
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sheesh, thanks David!
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Old 17 February 2014, 10:15 PM   #3
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Auctions still running, I doubt those fake bracelets are even 14K. More like Chinese 10K gold-plated bands with fake rolex buckles. Poor buyers
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Old 17 February 2014, 10:47 PM   #4
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The seller must have planned well ahead - that user ID on eBay dates back to 2006. Is it possible Time and Gems people have moved to this new seller's store? Agree pics are very much the same.

As for the seller, they disclosed all the customized items and that it was an aftermarket bracelet - including that it was gold-filled. The problem is the clasp has the coronet - wonder if it came off a regular Jubilee or not...
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Old 18 February 2014, 06:55 AM   #5
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The seller must have planned well ahead - that user ID on eBay dates back to 2006. Is it possible Time and Gems people have moved to this new seller's store? Agree pics are very much the same.

As for the seller, they disclosed all the customized items and that it was an aftermarket bracelet - including that it was gold-filled. The problem is the clasp has the coronet - wonder if it came off a regular Jubilee or not...
i believe it is them, clasps are fake 100% on ladies and president band not sure about the mens they have ?
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Old 18 February 2014, 06:59 AM   #6
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fake band fake band and more fake bands

Thanks David - since the Italian aftermarket bracelets are being made this way, and the seller disclosed it, not really sure what to report to eBay...
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Old 18 February 2014, 08:06 AM   #7
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False advertising. It's not an Italian band, it's Chinese and gold plated. Also fake rolex buckle. This is clearly copyright infringement. Reported

Look at beckertimes auctions, his bracelets do not have the marked rolex logos on the buckles. They are clear and on top of that the bracelets are solid gold in the center links. I respect people trying to make a profit but sending a Frankenstein shit product to customers and lying to them on the auction description as well is deceptive. Imagine these watches going to your fiancé/mother or a loved one. Not cool
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Old 18 February 2014, 12:50 PM   #8
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Is this the Time and Gems based at the following link?

http://www.timeandgems.com/rolex.html

The previous owner of the company just posted a bunch of watch parts under a different name on this forum (his posts were removed due to quantity of items listed for sale under 1 post I think), and I was interested in a couple of items. Should I be wary about going forward with such a transaction?
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:32 PM   #9
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Thanks David - since the Italian aftermarket bracelets are being made this way, and the seller disclosed it, not really sure what to report to eBay...

Definitely time and gems

Look here's one example same photos same description and same price. They were banned by eBay

http://www.certifiedtimepieces.com/r...zel-19520.html

http://www.timeandgems.com/rolex-day...bezel-900.html
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Old 18 February 2014, 11:46 PM   #10
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thanks for info....definitely going to pass now...
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