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Old 5 April 2014, 06:34 PM   #1
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GMT Master 2 16710 M series with bevel lugs?

I came across 2 BNIB/LNIB 16710 and it seems that they have some sort of chamfered/bevel on the edge of the lugs. I don't think they have been polish before because the plastic wrappings are still intact on the watches. I've seen some z or d series 16710s but they do not come with that kind bevel/chamfering on the lugs edges. I presumed that rolex have been hand polished in factory so it all depends on who is polishing the watch before it leaves the factory?

Is is true that after a factory servicing by RSC. There will be some bevel/chamfering after some polishing work done up on the watches?

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Old 5 April 2014, 06:44 PM   #2
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I have just louped my Pepsi 'M' and the bevels are the same as the bevels in your pix.

It has never been polished.
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Old 5 April 2014, 07:09 PM   #3
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I have just louped my Pepsi 'M' and the bevels are the same as the bevels in your pix.

It has never been polished.
Hi Mate.

Do you mind posting some close up shots of the bevels? Thanks and have a nice weekend.
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I came across 2 BNIB/LNIB 16710 and it seems that they have some sort of chamfered/bevel on the edge of the lugs. I don't think they have been polish before because the plastic wrappings are still intact on the watches. I've seen some z or d series 16710s but they do not come with that kind bevel/chamfering on the lugs edges. I presumed that rolex have been hand polished in factory so it all depends on who is polishing the watch before it leaves the factory?

Is is true that after a factory servicing by RSC. There will be some bevel/chamfering after some polishing work done up on the watches?

Thanks for an inputs.
Both watch are completely normal looking as new watches straight from factory one even has the bar code sticker on.And Rolex have never made a series of any watch they are just case serials that give a approx date when a case was stamped just like any serial has over the past 40 odd years.
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Old 5 April 2014, 07:24 PM   #5
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Both watch are completely normal looking as new watches straight from factory one even has the bar code sticker on.And Rolex have never made a series of any watch they are just case serials that give a approx date when a case was stamped just like any serial has over the past 40 odd years.
Thanks Padi.

But I have not seen any earlier D or Z series 16710 with such beveling on the lugs. I agree that both are new watches. But it comes to me that different units have slight different finishing depending on who is doing the polish work in the Rolex factory?
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But I have not seen any earlier D or Z series 16710 with such beveling on the lugs. I agree that both are new watches. But it comes to me that different units have slight different finishing depending on who is doing the polish work in the Rolex factory?
Again they are serials not series and Rolex makes millions of watches myself have seen many very very slight differences on many cases on the same reference and serial.
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Again they are serials not series and Rolex makes millions of watches myself have seen many very very slight differences on many cases on the same reference and serial.
That's means no 2 Rolex have the exact kind of finishing when they leave the factory. Depending on the person doing the polishing of the cases.

I have seen brand new rolex watches with very slight differences in the wide of the lugs. I guess that is normal with hand workmanship.
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That's means no 2 Rolex have the exact kind of finishing when they leave the factory. Depending on the person doing the polishing of the cases.

I have seen brand new rolex watches with very slight differences in the wide of the lugs. I guess that is normal with hand workmanship.
It could make sense when you think about it...
I did not know they were finished manually before they leave the factory.

I must admit I have also seen differences in unpolished cases.
Some where with chamfers some almost without/barely visible.
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Here is a P serial..



And a D serial.



and even a T serial

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It could make sense when you think about it...
I did not know they were finished manually before they leave the factory.

I must admit I have also seen differences in unpolished cases.
Some where with chamfers some almost without/barely visible.
I saw a video from rolex that these watches are actually polished by hand. i think is the deep sea challenge video.
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Old 6 April 2014, 04:48 AM   #11
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Here is a P serial..



And a D serial.



and even a T serial


i think the newer m serials are more obvious. look at the bevel on the edge of the lug. maybe 1/3 of the edge has been beveled. only left abit on the brush finishing.

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Take the plastic off and it won't be so noticeable.. ;)
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im confused..... pepsi was made in "M" serials???


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Yes, it was the last produced non-ceramic serial.
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Interesting. Here is my NOS Pepsi from D serial for your reference:

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Interesting. Here is my NOS Pepsi from D serial for your reference:

Thanks for the pics.

But it seems like the m serial has more bevel on the lugs. The plastic protector was already off from this part of the lugs and seems that 30% of the lug edge has been beveled.

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Take my advice forget about the beveled lugs and just buy or wear the watch in good health that's far more important I can assure you.
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Take my advice forget about the beveled lugs and just buy or wear the watch in good health that's far more important I can assure you.
Hi Padi.

I will definitely take your advise and enjoy the watch.
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Thanks Padi.

But I have not seen any earlier D or Z series 16710 with such beveling on the lugs. I agree that both are new watches. But it comes to me that different units have slight different finishing depending on who is doing the polish work in the Rolex factory?
My F serial looks identical and is unpolished.
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My F serial looks identical and is unpolished.
Hi JP,

Thanks for the input. Appreciate if you could provide pictures for reference purposes. I am quite keen into this subject.
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Preferring the classic to the newer larger cases and ceramic...about three years ago I searched the country and found and bought a pepsi GMT , YG President , TT Gmt on jubilee bracelet...all mint or as new , all before they vanished as I say because I wanted new a new Rolex but not the new series case or ceramic...I have just looked at mine and they all look identical to each other and yours. Enjoy!
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My 16710 z is the same and it is unpolished
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My 16710 z is the same and it is unpolished
does rsc puts abit of bevel on the lugs after servicing? my friend's 16610 seems to come back with abit of bevel on the lugs after sending it for servicing at rsc.
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Preferring the classic to the newer larger cases and ceramic...about three years ago I searched the country and found and bought a pepsi GMT , YG President , TT Gmt on jubilee bracelet...all mint or as new , all before they vanished as I say because I wanted new a new Rolex but not the new series case or ceramic...I have just looked at mine and they all look identical to each other and yours. Enjoy!
you must have paid premium for all these nib discontinued watches.
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Preferring the classic to the newer larger cases and ceramic...about three years ago I searched the country and found and bought a pepsi GMT , YG President , TT Gmt on jubilee bracelet...all mint or as new , all before they vanished as I say because I wanted new a new Rolex but not the new series case or ceramic...I have just looked at mine and they all look identical to each other and yours. Enjoy!
you must have paid premium for all the nib discontinued watches?
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Hi JP,

Thanks for the input. Appreciate if you could provide pictures for reference purposes. I am quite keen into this subject.
I've never taken a watch photo that wasn't terrible, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
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I've never taken a watch photo that wasn't terrible, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
Thanks JP,

For the efforts.
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