help did i buy a fake?

[newcommer]

hello all my main concern is that the watch has etching/engraving "STAINLESS STEEL BACK DEVILLE SWISS MADE" on the back of it with the rolex crown in the middle, the watch is a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust Men's Daimond chronometer. its an old version/vintage model i don't know the date it was made but i have a few numbers from the bracelet


62523n.18

d12

045

does anyone have any idea what these numbers mean?

sorry for being so vague about the watch but that is all the info i know thank you for taking the time to read this looking forward to reading your replies

[Johny]

post some pics.

[socalwatchcollector]

Photos....

[crowncollection]

It's fake no need for pics common fake back. D12 common fake date code.

[drifter01]

If it says "STAINLESS STEEL BACK DEVILLE SWISS MADE" my bet is fake. I've never heard of a real Rolex with that on the caseback, or anywhere else on it.

[newcommer]

hi guys thanks for the replies when i receive the watch i will post new pics unfortunately eBay has removed them.



crown collection its interesting you should say D12 is a common fake date code thanks for letting me know.


what about the rest of the numbers like 62523n.18
i haven't seen the dot between the N and 18 anywhere most pictures i see have a hyphen does this also ring alarm bells?

drifter i also haven't seen "STAINLESS STEEL BACK DEVILLE SWISS MADE" on any rolex too.

[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by newcommer

hi guys thanks for the replies when i receive the watch i will post new pics unfortunately eBay has removed them.



crown collection its interesting you should say D12 is a common fake date code thanks for letting me know.


what about the rest of the numbers like 62523n.18
i haven't seen the dot between the N and 18 anywhere most pictures i see have a hyphen does this also ring alarm bells?

drifter i also haven't seen "STAINLESS STEEL BACK DEVILLE SWISS MADE" on any rolex too.

You should be calling Paypal immediately! Waiting for the watch only delays the fraud that is taking place!

[newcommer]

some omega watches have the word De Ville on the back, did omega ever do any work with Rolex? so far it all points to being fake, i hope it isn't.. i will receive the watch in a few days will post the pics up. thank you all for your replies see you soon.

[newcommer]

Originally Posted by socalwatchcollector

You should be calling Paypal immediately! Waiting for the watch only delays the fraud that is taking place!

just saw your message after i wrote my last post,i called eBay with my concerns earlier they said if the watch turns out to be fake i will get my full refund i know i should phone pay pal
problem is the watch is in the post already so am going to wait until i receive it then will have it verified by my local watch maker, if its poop then i will call PayPal and have them freeze the transaction.

[newcommer]

socalwatchcollector can you please tell me more about why you think its fake, and i appreciate your concerns and advice.

[crowncollection]

is the watch steel or two tone, band 62523 H-18 is a two tone reference number, so if its steel you are in trouble straight up, eitherway with that back it's fake, those are usually clear caseback with that prinitng, is yours ?

Originally Posted by newcommer

hi guys thanks for the replies when i receive the watch i will post new pics unfortunately eBay has removed them.



crown collection its interesting you should say D12 is a common fake date code thanks for letting me know.


what about the rest of the numbers like 62523n.18
i haven't seen the dot between the N and 18 anywhere most pictures i see have a hyphen does this also ring alarm bells?

drifter i also haven't seen "STAINLESS STEEL BACK DEVILLE SWISS MADE" on any rolex too.

[Chewbacca]

auction # can assist.

[s14roller]

Why did you buy it first and ask questions after?

[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by newcommer

socalwatchcollector can you please tell me more about why you think its fake, and i appreciate your concerns and advice.

Crown pretty much nailed it on the head. Ebay really isn't a place you want to buy watches on top of that. We report fakes all day long to Ebay. Sometimes they pull them other times they don't. If you are going to buy it's best you post photos here 1st to get some feedback. My 2 cents...

[BNA/LION]

YES! Based on the photos I would have to say you did.

Seriously, Pictures are what will help answer your question. Post a few and we can help you...

[Britexpat76]

I am willing to bet a substantial amount that it is a fake without pictures. Sign into E-Bay click on purchases and there is the 'Watch' you have apparently bought. Save pictures and post here no need to wait for it to arrive.

Something not adding up here.......

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Britexpat76

I am willing to bet a substantial amount that it is a fake without pictures. Sign into E-Bay click on purchases and there is the 'Watch' you have apparently bought. Save pictures and post here no need to wait for it to arrive.

Something not adding up here.......

x2, troll.

[dysondiver]

see above ,,, if it looks like a fish and smells like a fish and swims everywhere , ill bet its not a horse.

[newcommer]

hi all ok where shall i start so many questions thanks again for all your advice,

let me answer the main question that stood out to me which is why on earth did i pay for the item before i checked it out well the answer is plain and simple stupidity and im fine with admitting that, because its true its a mistake i wont be making again especially now i have joined a forum full of amazing helpful people like yourselves.

i hope to collect buy and sell rolexes out of interest and having a hobby which could be quite profitable and fun at the same time.

Good news is after i finished work today i called up eBay and they where kind enough to send me any pictures they had on their database so here they are:

[newcommer]

Now theres 3 possibilities here

1)the strap and the back cover are fakes because the previous owner might have replaced the parts with fake parts if they were damaged.

2)everything on the watch is fake except for the mechanism inside the watch.

3)its an out right fake.

and none of them options sound good lol what do you guys think?

[nickb732]

It's an outright fake. Look at the clasp. It has unintelligible gibberish written on it. "SNSAWABE"??? And the watch is definitely fake. I highly doubt the mechanism is original given the rest of the watch.

[newcommer]

yes that's it ive been robbed with my own help i don't understand why people cant be genuine and honest when they sell things bloody thieves.

here goes the process of trying to get my money back :(

[mfnj]

Originally Posted by newcommer

Good news is after i finished work today i called up eBay and they where kind enough to send me any pictures they had on their database so here they are:

Hmm, I didn't realize EBAY was so accommodating and easy to get on the pohone

[newcommer]

apparently so they even had a call me back feature and they called me within 2 minutes, lets see if they are as helpful when i ask them for my money back

[bondtoys]

Like someone previously said, you should ask your money back without any further delay.

The watch is a fake and the seller a scammer - you'd better act quick!

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by mfnj

Hmm, I didn't realize EBAY was so accommodating and easy to get on the pohone

They are not.

[newcommer]

i am calling paypal right now

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by newcommer

i am calling paypal right now

How about posting the e-bay auction #?

[newcommer]

the item was removed

[newcommer]

the listing was removed