Seriously misprinted DJ dial ?

[Blackdog]

I was browsing around some local sites I know and saw this.

This looks legit and brand new, and I have no reason to distrust the dealer, I have actually bought from them before. But how did it ever got past QC ?



BTW, no intention to buy. Just curious. How can something like this happen ?

(I hope it's not a problem to post the picture, I obviously don't own it and have borrowed it without permission, but the name of the owner is there)

[SC11]

Sure is not just a generic pic they photoshop dials onto?

[padi56]

I would expect its nothing more than the camera angle just like when you put a straw into water the light makes straw refracted. Pictures are just pictures and don't always portray the true likeness just like most of the so called celebs pictures.

[diver2012]

Originally Posted by padi56

I would expect its nothing more than the camera angle just like when you put a straw into water the light makes straw refracted. Pictures are just pictures and don't always portray the true likeness just like most of the so called celebs pictures.

It's clearly not the camera angle or an optical illusion. It is a misprinted (and misaligned) dial.

[Blackdog]

Originally Posted by padi56

I would expect its nothing more than the camera angle just like when you put a straw into water the light makes straw refracted. Pictures are just pictures and don't always portray the true likeness just like most of the so called celebs pictures.

I think that's unlikely. All the pics in the site are taken using the same camera angle and lighting and all the other similar dials are aligned properly...

[nickb732]

Heh, that's pretty bad..

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Blackdog

I think that's unlikely. All the pics in the site are taken using the same camera angle and lighting and all the other similar dials are aligned properly...

Send them a Email and ask for better pictures of said watch as in over 30 years of being around Rolex watches have never seen a dial like that if its really like in picture.

[SC11]

On closer inspection I missed the point, the crown and indices are correct but the print is a few mm off centre!

Can't see this ever passing QC onto AD and then onto the GM, surely somewhere down the line it would of been flagged.

[Jack T]

At the 6:00 marker, are Swiss and Made off kilter?

[Jocke]

If you flip the pic you can see better the dial have not been in correct position then they apply the white paint.

[PanosI]

Collectable !

[cop414]

I agree that it looks more mis aligned than mis printed.

[Jocke]

I erase the painting (but not the shadows at the rehaut) so can you see the dial is in correct position.

[ksh977]

Originally Posted by pitbull666

Sure is not just a generic pic they photoshop dials onto?

I'm inclined to buy into this theory, particularly in consideration of padi56's "30 years" statement in post #7.

[waspy1]

There were some milguass dials which were similarly misprinted a couple of years back. Odd how this can get out.


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[waspy1]

Here's a link to the milgauss posted here last year. Similar issue: http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....17&postcount=8


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[Thunderbird88]

Wow that is bad!
Wonder if the first owner even noticed it... I could never have a watch like that

[orhanbalu]

Well be honest, I thinks its fake !


Obalu

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by Jocke

If you flip the pic you can see better the dial have not been in correct position then they apply the white paint.

yeah that aint right!

[samsam]

It's a DJII not a DJ and I think it's a generic pic that has been photoshopped with different dial.

[beshannon]

I need a 10x loupe to be sure after checking for stickers and making sure I am not drunk!

[MonBK]

Did someone actually buy it and is now the owner of this watch?

[Blackdog]

Originally Posted by dsfjsdfjy

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I'm not sure where you're getting with your quote (English is not my mother tongue). What I meant, specifically, is that I was browsing that site because I know them from buying a SD (verified 100% legit) from them. They are local to me, that's all there is to my sentence.

I am not interested in the watch at all, just thought it was odd to see such a mistake not caught in QC before leaving the factory.

For all I know it could be fake, even though I consider the dealer to be reputable.

Photoshopped, maybe. But the reflection on the rehaut is consistent with the minute chapter shifted print.

If it is not photoshopped it certainly looks like the dial was rotated when the white text was printed. I believe the text is tampon-printed (pad-printed) after painting the dial, but has to be done before applying the indices and crown. Strange no one picked that up.

Anyway, just posted out of curiosity. It is reassuring to learn that it is not a common thing (if real at all).

[Mystro]

We have seen all kind of dial errors before from Rolex. This is just another one. I am sure there is a dial out there with a misspelled "Superlative" on it.
Spoiler alert------- Rolex is a mass produced factory watch, its gonna happen.

[eightbore]

It's funny that Rolex will be Nazis about "non-OEM" hands or dials because it "devalues" the brand...but then let misprints slip out! Which is worse?

[Mystro]

Rolex hypocrisy is only ment to help themself and not the customers best intrest. The customer is just a nessisary factor much like a chicken is to a egg farm.

Originally Posted by eightbore

It's funny that Rolex will be Nazis about "non-OEM" hands or dials because it "devalues" the brand...but then let misprints slip out! Which is worse?

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by eightbore

It's funny that Rolex will be Nazis about "non-OEM" hands or dials because it "devalues" the brand...but then let misprints slip out! Which is worse?

They didn't "let it" - it slipped out as you said. I highly doubt someone in QC looked at it, saw the problem, but said "It's good enough And counterfeits are an entirely different issue. It's illegal and they are ripping off the company they holds the trademarks and patents.

But I'm not 100% convinced it's an untouched picture of an actual watch.

[eightbore]

Of course no one saw it and said "no big deal" but QC issued are really "let go" in some sense if a firm simply does not see it as profitable to improve QC to such a degree that stuff like this does not "slip out". Accidents happen, for sure...but I have seen way too many things like this (or poorly printed text, etc) to really be comfortable. Also, I am not just talking about "counterfeit" parts...what about genuine Rolex parts that are (as far as Rolex is concerned) "inappropriate" for a given model? Red second hands, etc. They might be genuine Rolex, but I believe Rolex will replace them with "model appropriate" parts if sent in for service. As has been said elsewhere on this forum, Mercedes Benz doesn't refuse to change your oil simply because you have aftermarket BBS wheels on the thing...or worse yet, because you put "larger than factory original" wheels on it that were in fact MADE BY MERCEDES! If they are not careful, Rolex might just "protect it's brand" to the point where people decide it's just not worth it anymore.

[MortgageGuy]

this is cazy

[Zoran]

Originally Posted by orhanbalu

Well be honest, I thinks its fake !


Obalu

That is a bold statement...
I can only assume you said this due to lack of any knowledgable input on this matter...

I know Jaap (his name) from Precision Watches, and in The Netherlands and Belgium he is a well trusted grey dealer of various brands, including Rolex.
He is even a sponsor of the Dutch Rolex Forum, so getting involved in "fake" watches or even dials would mean he could close his doors tomorrow.

I believe that the paint was printed on the dial off-centered.
It is too bad this passed QC, but it ends there.

So before you start shouting it's a fake and blemishing somebody's hard earned reputation, I suggest you make sure you can put your money where your mouth is. If he sues you for this, and by all means he would have every right to do so, you should be able to deal with the consequences.

Have a great day guys!