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Americanlife · 25 May 2014, 03:35 AM

I have been looking for a black dial 1803 and a 1016 for a pretty long time, and these two are best ones I can find so far, they are all from late 60s I believe.

I would love to hear the opinions of the experts here.

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crowncollection · 25 May 2014, 07:06 AM

Nice case on that day date

nsumner · 25 May 2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

Nice case on that day date

Nice everything on the day date. I'm not an expert on these but the dial looks great.

crowncollection · 25 May 2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nsumner

Nice everything on the day date. I'm not an expert on these but the dial looks great.

Agreed nice dial, overall great condition.

Shade · 26 May 2014, 11:23 AM

Both appears to be great and in fantastic condition, I'd buy both in a heartbeat if the price was right!

CrownMe · 26 May 2014, 12:15 PM

I'm no expert on either model but I can say for sure that both are stunning. Love the gilt print on the matte black dial on the day date. Very stealth like. Goodluck with the purchase.

Oh and the expy has some beautiful creamy patina. Classic watch

GGGMT · 26 May 2014, 02:28 PM

1016 looks awesome. 1803 looks good but I'm a big fan of getting the original bracelet. What's the asking price on both? B&P?

ahafs1 · 26 May 2014, 02:55 PM

If I was to choose one out of the two it would be the 1016.

adam78 · 26 May 2014, 10:52 PM

We need to know more details about each (e.g. SNs) and photos of the inner case backs and movements would be desirable. Also, those end links on the 1016's 7836 (I think) bracelet appear to be aftermarket and don't fit well. Should be 280 or 258 end links. And there's a lot of stretch in that bracelet. Just saying.

Pete · 26 May 2014, 11:55 PM

I love that 1601 dial. So simple and clean. Lovely. The DD isn't bad either

andromeda160 · 27 May 2014, 12:20 AM

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I love that 1601 dial. So simple and clean. Lovely. The DD isn't bad either

That's a 1016 not a 1601.

omitohud · 28 May 2014, 02:26 PM

Can't comment on the other but the dd is nice. Not a fan of the leather though. With the president bracelet it would look stunning. The black dial is not rare but not very common though. Nice find.

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watchcrank · 28 May 2014, 11:48 PM

both nice and wear well. I like the leather to downplay all the gold :-) m

elohtee · 29 May 2014, 10:01 AM

yum

minimerc · 30 May 2014, 12:19 AM

Very very beautiful dd!!

minimerc · 30 May 2014, 12:20 AM

the 1016 are probably more common than this dd dial. I would rather get this dd and get the 1016 non gilt later.

Vincent65 · 30 May 2014, 12:27 AM

both winners

25 May 2014, 03:35 AM	#1
Americanlife "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: DFW, TX Watch: Subs Posts: 74	1803 and 1016 beauty from 60s - your thoughts? I have been looking for a black dial 1803 and a 1016 for a pretty long time, and these two are best ones I can find so far, they are all from late 60s I believe. I would love to hear the opinions of the experts here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 May 2014, 07:06 AM	#2
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Nice case on that day date __________________ watches many

26 May 2014, 11:23 AM	#5
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	Both appears to be great and in fantastic condition, I'd buy both in a heartbeat if the price was right! __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

26 May 2014, 10:52 PM	#9
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	We need to know more details about each (e.g. SNs) and photos of the inner case backs and movements would be desirable. Also, those end links on the 1016's 7836 (I think) bracelet appear to be aftermarket and don't fit well. Should be 280 or 258 end links. And there's a lot of stretch in that bracelet. Just saying. __________________ Cheers, Adam

26 May 2014, 11:55 PM	#10
Pete "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Real Name: Pete Location: Guelph Watch: 16610/216570 Posts: 678	I love that 1601 dial. So simple and clean. Lovely. The DD isn't bad either __________________ Pete - Guelph ON - 16610 D / 216570 Member #745 RIP JJ "Always in our hearts, and on our wrists" "I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul"

26 May 2014, 12:15 PM	#6
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	I'm no expert on either model but I can say for sure that both are stunning. Love the gilt print on the matte black dial on the day date. Very stealth like. Goodluck with the purchase. Oh and the expy has some beautiful creamy patina. Classic watch

26 May 2014, 02:28 PM	#7
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,346	1016 looks awesome. 1803 looks good but I'm a big fan of getting the original bracelet. What's the asking price on both? B&P?

26 May 2014, 02:55 PM	#8
ahafs1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Dubai, UAE Watch: Patek Aquanaut Posts: 236	If I was to choose one out of the two it would be the 1016.

28 May 2014, 02:26 PM	#12
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	Can't comment on the other but the dd is nice. Not a fan of the leather though. With the president bracelet it would look stunning. The black dial is not rare but not very common though. Nice find. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 May 2014, 11:48 PM	#13
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	both nice and wear well. I like the leather to downplay all the gold :-) m

29 May 2014, 10:01 AM	#14
elohtee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: OT Location: North Posts: 64	yum

30 May 2014, 12:19 AM	#15
minimerc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: spore Posts: 48	Very very beautiful dd!!

30 May 2014, 12:20 AM	#16
minimerc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: spore Posts: 48	the 1016 are probably more common than this dd dial. I would rather get this dd and get the 1016 non gilt later.

30 May 2014, 12:27 AM	#17
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	both winners

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