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aspen_joe · 8 June 2014, 04:57 AM

I am looking to purchase a vintage sub and have narrowed it down to either the 16610 versus the tudor 9411/0. A lot of people will say "just go for the 16610" but it is a watch that just about everyone has and I do like the snowflake hands.
If I end up getting the tudor, can anyone enlighten me on the potential down sides (eg. lume, resale value, accuracy, etc.)

landroverking · 8 June 2014, 05:14 AM

Neither vintage IMO.

HogwldFLTR · 8 June 2014, 05:33 AM

Wow, there are so many 16610s out there I never considered them really vintage. On the other hand I don't really think that Tudors measure up for me. I looked at the 16610 and ended liking the looks of the no dates better.

FTX I · 8 June 2014, 05:43 AM

Any Sub without a solid bracelet with glidelock clasp is vintage.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

tkerrmd · 8 June 2014, 05:45 AM

Vintage forum possibly more helpful?

Jake B · 8 June 2014, 05:50 AM

I would consider anything BEFORE the 16610 vintage. The 16610 was only discontinued a few years ago.

77T · 8 June 2014, 06:13 AM

Since the Tudor you are considering is approaching the 40 y.o. mark, I'd say it fit the vintage bill. 9411/0 was produced circa. 1975-76. The "snowflake" markers and hands make it a more interesting piece IMHO.

As for collectibility, neither will be rare for many decades to come - but there were fewer 9411/0's were produced in those 2 years than the millions of 16610's. And that fact could play a role in getting future parts for the Tudor if you plan to keep it for several decades.

Good luck on the hunt for a decent one of either marque - condition and authenticity will be your biggest challenge...

aspen_joe · 8 June 2014, 07:09 AM

perhaps I should be considering a 1680 red sub then...

landroverking · 8 June 2014, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by aspen_joe

perhaps I should be considering a 1680 red sub then...

Yes that would be a classic vintage.

Micha · 8 June 2014, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspen_joe

perhaps I should be considering a 1680 red sub then...

Yes, depends on you budget of course. Red 1680 more than twice as much as the Tudor

8 June 2014, 04:57 AM	#1
aspen_joe "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Posts: 13	RE: Vintage Subs I am looking to purchase a vintage sub and have narrowed it down to either the 16610 versus the tudor 9411/0. A lot of people will say "just go for the 16610" but it is a watch that just about everyone has and I do like the snowflake hands. If I end up getting the tudor, can anyone enlighten me on the potential down sides (eg. lume, resale value, accuracy, etc.)

8 June 2014, 05:33 AM	#3
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,697	Wow, there are so many 16610s out there I never considered them really vintage. On the other hand I don't really think that Tudors measure up for me. I looked at the 16610 and ended liking the looks of the no dates better. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

8 June 2014, 05:50 AM	#6
Jake B "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hong Kong Watch: Gold Sub 116618LN Posts: 2,820	I would consider anything BEFORE the 16610 vintage. The 16610 was only discontinued a few years ago. __________________ Things are more like they are now than they ever were before.

8 June 2014, 06:13 AM	#7
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,024	Since the Tudor you are considering is approaching the 40 y.o. mark, I'd say it fit the vintage bill. 9411/0 was produced circa. 1975-76. The "snowflake" markers and hands make it a more interesting piece IMHO. As for collectibility, neither will be rare for many decades to come - but there were fewer 9411/0's were produced in those 2 years than the millions of 16610's. And that fact could play a role in getting future parts for the Tudor if you plan to keep it for several decades. Good luck on the hunt for a decent one of either marque - condition and authenticity will be your biggest challenge... __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

8 June 2014, 05:14 AM	#2
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Neither vintage IMO.

8 June 2014, 05:43 AM	#4
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Any Sub without a solid bracelet with glidelock clasp is vintage. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

8 June 2014, 05:45 AM	#5
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Vintage forum possibly more helpful?

8 June 2014, 07:09 AM	#8
aspen_joe "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Posts: 13	perhaps I should be considering a 1680 red sub then...

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