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R1@160@alltimes · 16 July 2014, 09:33 PM

Bought my M serial 16610 as NOS back in 2009 and it is my daily beater. I recently started noticing some minor grinding noise inside the movement when I swirl the watch around.

Anyone had similar experiences? Could it be time for service?

padi56 · 16 July 2014, 09:54 PM

It could be just the rotor pendulum swinging noise you are hearing or something simple like a loose screw, but if not properly serviced the main Achilles heel in the 3135 movement and its clones is the rotor shaft bearings. And IMO its the 3 series movements weakest link the rotor winding sleeve bearings. Now these need proper lubrication and its very critical its done right,if it drys out you will get severe wear in the bearing jewels.Looks like to me, Rolex has sacrificed a bit in the engineering department,for better winding efficiency. IMO the small diameter winding post don't offer enough support to the rotor weight, but again some go on for decades without service, but many fail for the lack of.But myself believe the ball bearing winding rotor will be introduced in the all the Rolex movements in near future.

Nissanzx1 · 16 July 2014, 10:15 PM

I had a similar issue with a 3135 powered Datejust recently. A screw had worked loose and was causing noise inside the movement...

GH

azguy · 16 July 2014, 11:40 PM

Time to have it looked at, RSC in the city would be your best bet...

richard371 · 17 July 2014, 03:35 AM

Had this happen to a sub many years a ago. Took it to RSC and the jewel bearing was broken.

rmfnla · 17 July 2014, 05:14 AM

Since it is out of warranty I suggest sending it to an independent like Vanessa:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=70528

timuS · 17 July 2014, 05:45 AM

I second Padi's observation...it must be taken to an RSC before the rotor grinds too much into the movement plate

bayerische · 17 July 2014, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

It could be just the rotor pendulum swinging noise you are hearing or something simple like a loose screw, but if not properly serviced the main Achilles heel in the 3135 movement and its clones is the rotor shaft bearings. And IMO its the 3 series movements weakest link the rotor winding sleeve bearings. Now these need proper lubrication and its very critical its done right,if it drys out you will get severe wear in the bearing jewels.Looks like to me, Rolex has sacrificed a bit in the engineering department,for better winding efficiency. IMO the small diameter winding post don't offer enough support to the rotor weight, but again some go on for decades without service, but many fail for the lack of.But myself believe the ball bearing winding rotor will be introduced in the all the Rolex movements in near future.

Spot on Padi.

R1@160@alltimes · 17 July 2014, 02:32 PM

I appreciate all insightful replies. Time to find a local skilled watchmaker with a Rolex parts account.

16 July 2014, 09:33 PM	#1
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	16610 movement noise Bought my M serial 16610 as NOS back in 2009 and it is my daily beater. I recently started noticing some minor grinding noise inside the movement when I swirl the watch around. Anyone had similar experiences? Could it be time for service? __________________

16 July 2014, 09:54 PM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,062	It could be just the rotor pendulum swinging noise you are hearing or something simple like a loose screw, but if not properly serviced the main Achilles heel in the 3135 movement and its clones is the rotor shaft bearings. And IMO its the 3 series movements weakest link the rotor winding sleeve bearings. Now these need proper lubrication and its very critical its done right,if it drys out you will get severe wear in the bearing jewels.Looks like to me, Rolex has sacrificed a bit in the engineering department,for better winding efficiency. IMO the small diameter winding post don't offer enough support to the rotor weight, but again some go on for decades without service, but many fail for the lack of.But myself believe the ball bearing winding rotor will be introduced in the all the Rolex movements in near future. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

16 July 2014, 10:15 PM	#3
Nissanzx1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Grant Holthaus Location: Kansas Watch: Rolex Most Days... Posts: 237	I had a similar issue with a 3135 powered Datejust recently. A screw had worked loose and was causing noise inside the movement... GH __________________ 1501 in YG 1803 in YG Vintage BB, Patek 3646, JLC Res de Marche, 16700 15200, 16233, 16234, 16610, 16613, 16600, 16570, Omega Man On The Moon, Asst'd Vintage Chrono's

17 July 2014, 05:14 AM	#6
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	Since it is out of warranty I suggest sending it to an independent like Vanessa: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=70528 __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

17 July 2014, 05:45 AM	#7
timuS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Earth Watch: es out for watches Posts: 85	I second Padi's observation...it must be taken to an RSC before the rotor grinds too much into the movement plate __________________ Tempus Fugit - Carpe Diem - Memento Mori!

16 July 2014, 11:40 PM	#4
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Time to have it looked at, RSC in the city would be your best bet...

17 July 2014, 03:35 AM	#5
richard371 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sf Watch: 116500LN White Posts: 1,853	Had this happen to a sub many years a ago. Took it to RSC and the jewel bearing was broken.

17 July 2014, 02:32 PM	#9
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I appreciate all insightful replies. Time to find a local skilled watchmaker with a Rolex parts account. __________________

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