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Jeffa32 · 1 August 2014, 08:34 PM

Be interested to know if there is any specific reasons why AP watches are generally much more expensive than Rolex.

Do they have more expensive movements or manufacturing processes?

I can't see the additional value in the brand alone.

diver2012 · 1 August 2014, 09:53 PM

A video tells a thousand words...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFwncagQWYE

DECR · 2 August 2014, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by diver2012

A video tells a thousand words...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFwncagQWYE

Cool video!

Speed · 1 August 2014, 09:55 PM

Rolex produces around 900k-1 million watches per year-AP ~ 30K. So there is some more "exclusivity" with owning an AP

There is more work by hand on APs while Rolex uses more robotics and assembly lines.

The fit and finish. On an AP is much more detailed and again-in many cases - done by hand.

AP movements are - in comparison to Rolex and other brands - ornately decorated. This adds cost as well.

You also pay for the pedigree of AP as one of the holy trinity of watchmaking-along with Patek and Vacheron Constantin.

I am sure others will chime in with more...

lorsban · 1 August 2014, 10:01 PM

There's a video out on AP RO bracelets. Very labor intensive. Very intricate work.

I highly doubt if Rolex can match it.

Kyu · 2 August 2014, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lorsban

There's a video out on AP RO bracelets. Very labor intensive. Very intricate work.

I highly doubt if Rolex can match it.

rolex can probably match it,
except they'll be taking forever to make them and become limited in production and a raised cost lol

texex91 · 1 August 2014, 10:02 PM

Ah, another Rolex vs AP thread (these threads always end up no where).

If you don't see any "additional value" then it's not worth the time to try and explain the differences.

Probably best to stay with Rolex.

SMD · 1 August 2014, 10:43 PM

These are getting tiring. If you don't like AP, don't buy it. If you are worried about a few anonymous online anecdotes of watches running fast, don't buy an AP. Next topic please.

masterserg · 1 August 2014, 11:00 PM

What is it with all the anti AP BS lately? I agree ... it's getting old. If you don't like it buy something else.

I suppose it goes something like "if you get it, you get it ... if you don't, you are not supposed to".

And I would take some time to research before coming into an AP forum and saying you can't see any value on the the brand. You are not going to get a great response like that.

Baco Noir · 1 August 2014, 11:27 PM

Agree with the replies so far. My RO is running +2.5s/day by the way and looking at the hand engraved solid gold rotor is mesmerizing.

craniotes · 1 August 2014, 11:31 PM

Regards,
Adam

Presa canary · 2 August 2014, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by craniotes

Regards,
Adam

What this dude, was about to say....

SamGMT · 2 August 2014, 01:08 AM

Another reason why AP cost more is because they use more gold Daytona (full solid gold on case & bracelet) @ 182 grams vs
RG Rubberclad (full solid gold on case) @ 225 grams, she is really one fat heavy babe!

SamGMT · 2 August 2014, 01:15 AM

Just to add on, another fat and heavier one below!

texex91 · 2 August 2014, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SamGMT

Just to add on, another fat and heavier one below!

My favorite heavy!

SamGMT · 2 August 2014, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

My favorite heavy!

B. Doggy · 2 August 2014, 01:01 AM

Lol!

Hairdude1 · 2 August 2014, 02:09 AM

Check this out http://youtu.be/GMQ6cT2RxDo

VICI · 2 August 2014, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Check this out http://youtu.be/GMQ6cT2RxDo

This is why... Any questions?

jamesbondOO7 · 3 August 2014, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by VICI

This is why... Any questions?

Yes, the video is impressive, but why can't they design a good-looking watch?

improviz · 3 August 2014, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Yes, the video is impressive, but why can't they design a good-looking watch?

Why do you always have to bash other brands?

HL65 · 3 August 2014, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by improviz

Why do you always have to bash other brands?

Better yet why troll other forums if you only like Rolex. Look at his signature line. You would think he would stick to Rolex forum only instead of insulting others and acting like a troll.

diver2012 · 3 August 2014, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Yes, the video is impressive, but why can't they design a good-looking watch?

zzzzzz

texex91 · 3 August 2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Yes, the video is impressive, but why can't they design a good-looking watch?

Here's the one thing I know "Mr.Bond", you have consistently come to the AP Forum to add zero value, and then insult the brand, and in many cases members. Might I suggest you stick in the forum you prefer, because this forum has zero interest in you.

The other thing you MIGHT want to keep in mind, our mods can see right through your BS, and sooner or later you will find yourself on permanent vacation. That would not hurt any of our feelings

So I bid you farewell and will look for you on the Rolex forum. Because believe it or not, most of us here actually can appreciate it as a brand.

VICI · 3 August 2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Yes, the video is impressive, but why can't they design a good-looking watch?

Opinion is relative.

I'm sure many would disagree.

SamGMT · 3 August 2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by VICI

Opinion is relative.

I'm sure many would disagree.

+1

You hurt my eyes!!

GOB · 2 August 2014, 08:48 AM

After having pretty much every single model of Rolex ever made (except for the Day Date, just doesn't fit my lifestyle...), having two bad experiences with AP (Rubberclad and Dual Time), and currently looking at a Patek, makes me feel like crap to have given up on my Dual Time to go back to Rolex. AP and Rolex are not even on the same league, not even close. If you value craftsmanship and uniqueness, then there is a certain amount of brands you want to go after. If all you care is about brand recognition, blah design (too common due to production figures), pretty good resale, then yes, Rolex wins. BUT, and a big BUT

if you don't want to be like the next "John Doe" and value fine craftsmanship by hand (to be human is to err...), then AP is leagues ahead of Rolex. Each has its unique niche. All depends what you are after. My first nice watch was a Rolex (age 18, bought with my own funds...) and that was 20+ years ago and though I have one that I bought nearly 7 months ago, I think it will be the last I buy (will NEVER EVER sell the one I inherited from my grandfather, a SS Date).

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Check this out http://youtu.be/GMQ6cT2RxDo

jolimont · 2 August 2014, 09:16 AM

Rolex is my favorite brand but unless you have had an AP in your hands you won't understand

I was always -AP? Meh... but fell instantly in love with the royal oak design after trying my friends diver

Baco Noir · 3 August 2014, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jolimont

Rolex is my favorite brand but unless you have had an AP in your hands you won't understand

I was always -AP? Meh... but fell instantly in love with the royal oak design after trying my friends diver

I felt the same way until I saw a RO in real life, then I owned one within a few weeks. Amazing amount of hand performed craftsmanship goes into these watches

, unlike the machine work done on most modern watches.

rolepam312 · 2 August 2014, 02:52 AM

Rolex and AP should never be mentioned together.....it's insulting to AP....

Rolex will never be AP, and AP does not want to be Rolex, ever.....that should sum up the difference between Rolex and AP, forever.....

1 August 2014, 08:34 PM	#1
Jeffa32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Jeff Location: Singapore Watch: Datejust II Posts: 426	Rolex vs AP Be interested to know if there is any specific reasons why AP watches are generally much more expensive than Rolex. Do they have more expensive movements or manufacturing processes? I can't see the additional value in the brand alone. __________________ Omega Speedmaster, Breitling Steelfish, Datejust II, IWC Portofino Chronograph, Planet Ocean Liquidmetal XL, BLNR, IWC Portuguese 7 day

1 August 2014, 10:01 PM	#5
lorsban "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,199	There's a video out on AP RO bracelets. Very labor intensive. Very intricate work. I highly doubt if Rolex can match it. __________________ Rolex TT Datejust, Panerai PAM 312, Omega Connie C-Shape, Anonimo D-Date II, Squale 20 Atmos Blue Ray, Concord Impresario Triple Date Chrono Seiko SKX007, Monster Tuna

1 August 2014, 11:00 PM	#9
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	What is it with all the anti AP BS lately? I agree ... it's getting old. If you don't like it buy something else. I suppose it goes something like "if you get it, you get it ... if you don't, you are not supposed to". And I would take some time to research before coming into an AP forum and saying you can't see any value on the the brand. You are not going to get a great response like that. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

1 August 2014, 11:27 PM	#10
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,971	Agree with the replies so far. My RO is running +2.5s/day by the way and looking at the hand engraved solid gold rotor is mesmerizing. __________________ Current Collection: Rolex 126619LB, 116710BLNR, and 216570 polar Explorer II; Omega Apollo 8 Speedmaster and Planet Ocean 42; Tudor BB Bronze Bucherer Blue Edition; Nomos Neomatik 42; Breitling Aerospace, Avenger Blackbird, & SuperOcean 44; Doxa 300 Pro Carbon; Stowa Limette; Laco Napa Flieger; Mickey Mouse Timex Electric; and dare I say it...an Apple Watch too

2 August 2014, 01:01 AM	#17
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Lol! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

1 August 2014, 09:53 PM	#2
diver2012 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 1,373	A video tells a thousand words... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFwncagQWYE

1 August 2014, 09:55 PM	#4
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Rolex produces around 900k-1 million watches per year-AP ~ 30K. So there is some more "exclusivity" with owning an AP There is more work by hand on APs while Rolex uses more robotics and assembly lines. The fit and finish. On an AP is much more detailed and again-in many cases - done by hand. AP movements are - in comparison to Rolex and other brands - ornately decorated. This adds cost as well. You also pay for the pedigree of AP as one of the holy trinity of watchmaking-along with Patek and Vacheron Constantin. I am sure others will chime in with more...

1 August 2014, 10:02 PM	#7
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Ah, another Rolex vs AP thread (these threads always end up no where). If you don't see any "additional value" then it's not worth the time to try and explain the differences. Probably best to stay with Rolex.

1 August 2014, 10:43 PM	#8
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	These are getting tiring. If you don't like AP, don't buy it. If you are worried about a few anonymous online anecdotes of watches running fast, don't buy an AP. Next topic please.

1 August 2014, 11:31 PM	#11
craniotes Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Ad Rock Location: Manhattan Posts: 621	Regards, Adam

2 August 2014, 01:08 AM	#13
SamGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Singapore Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,689	Another reason why AP cost more is because they use more gold Daytona (full solid gold on case & bracelet) @ 182 grams vs RG Rubberclad (full solid gold on case) @ 225 grams, she is really one fat heavy babe!

2 August 2014, 01:15 AM	#14
SamGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Singapore Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,689	Just to add on, another fat and heavier one below!

2 August 2014, 02:09 AM	#18
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Check this out http://youtu.be/GMQ6cT2RxDo __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

2 August 2014, 09:16 AM	#28
jolimont "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Will Location: land of oz Watch: sundial Posts: 2,219	Rolex is my favorite brand but unless you have had an AP in your hands you won't understand I was always -AP? Meh... but fell instantly in love with the royal oak design after trying my friends diver

2 August 2014, 02:52 AM	#30
rolepam312 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: arizona Posts: 415	Rolex and AP should never be mentioned together.....it's insulting to AP.... Rolex will never be AP, and AP does not want to be Rolex, ever.....that should sum up the difference between Rolex and AP, forever.....

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