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JJW · 6 August 2014, 11:48 PM

Hi Guys:

I have a SS daytona and I find that at times that I have a very difficult time turning the nuts (I don't know what they're called) on the pushers. I've had to use pliers on them. I'm very careful not to over tighten them. I just tighten them until they make contact. Any ideas on how to prevent this?

Thanks,
John

beshannon · 6 August 2014, 11:53 PM

Well first I would stop using pliers as they only need to be finger tight.

If they are worn or stripped then they need to be looked at by someone who can service the watch.

padi56 · 6 August 2014, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JJW

Hi Guys:

I have a SS daytona and I find that at times that I have a very difficult time turning the nuts (I don't know what they're called) on the pushers. I've had to use pliers on them. I'm very careful not to over tighten them. I just tighten them until they make contact. Any ideas on how to prevent this?

Thanks,
John

Just use a very tiny amount of Fomblin UT18 on the threads or any silicone type lubricant but only a tiny amount.Unscrew a few times the wipe any excess lube off,then use pushers more and throw away the pliers.

Tools · 7 August 2014, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JJW

Hi Guys:

I have a SS daytona and I find that at times that I have a very difficult time turning the nuts (I don't know what they're called) on the pushers. I've had to use pliers on them. I'm very careful not to over tighten them. I just tighten them until they make contact. Any ideas on how to prevent this?

Thanks,
John

Wow, you should never have to use pliers on them..

Just making contact is proper, they do not do anything except act as a "stop" to keep them from being pushed.

JJW · 7 August 2014, 12:16 AM

I haven't been using pliers to close them. I screw them down by hand only until they make contact. It's opening them that's the problem. Sometimes it's impossible to open them by hand. I haven't stripped anything. I put a piece of plastic between the watch and the pliers.

I'm going to try the lubricant. Would WD 40 be OK?

Tools · 7 August 2014, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JJW

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I'm going to try the lubricant. Would WD 40 be OK?

no, it would not be. The proper lube would likely be a thin coat of white lithium grease (Fomblin is a trade name), the same as used on the crown threads.

Brandon(phila) · 7 August 2014, 01:33 AM

Try this

Sorry couldn't resist

JJW · 7 August 2014, 01:33 AM

Great. Thanks for the advice.
All the best
John

JJW · 7 August 2014, 01:34 AM

I'll pick up one of those wrenches, just in case the grease doesn't work.

iazrollie · 7 August 2014, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

:, they do not do anything except act as a "stop" to keep them from being pushed.

Is that true? So, they don't help with the waterproof rating? I guess, it's so you don't depress the pushers while underwater?

padi56 · 7 August 2014, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by iazrollie

Is that true? So, they don't help with the waterproof rating? I guess, it's so you don't depress the pushers while underwater?

The pushers have been activated by a team of French divers at 30m and pushers unscrewed at 60m with no harm whatsoever.The screw down is just to stop activating the chrono function when not needed.

KINGROLESAR · 7 August 2014, 02:14 AM

Don't own a Daytona but found this highly informative- thanks.

Chelseafan · 7 August 2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon(phila)

Try this

Sorry couldn't resist

Whoa...brings water to my eyes

crowncollection · 7 August 2014, 07:49 AM

sound like the watch needs thread grease. fomlin.

14060m · 7 August 2014, 07:56 AM

Thanks for the great information

locutus49 · 7 August 2014, 08:24 AM

I would first take it to a watch repair guy just to make sure the threads are not stripped. I'm sure one would look at it for free.

Old Expat Beast · 7 August 2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

The pushers have been activated by a team of French divers at 30m and pushers unscrewed at 60m with no harm whatsoever.The screw down is just to stop activating the chrono function when not needed.

In that case I would rather not have them on there. They are too fiddly. How often do regular chronos get set off by mistake? And so what if they do? It barely effects the power reserve.

Rolexpharm · 7 August 2014, 10:09 AM

I have never had any problems with the pushers. Maybe the lube inside dried up? If you're not over tightening it there maybe something in the threads

Tools · 7 August 2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by iazrollie

Is that true? So, they don't help with the waterproof rating? I guess, it's so you don't depress the pushers while underwater?

Yes, it's true. The lock-nuts have zero function except as a stop point and do not contribute in any way to sealing or water-proofing. The o-ring seals are inside the pusher and a gasket seals it to the case.

tkerrmd · 7 August 2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

The pushers have been activated by a team of French divers at 30m and pushers unscrewed at 60m with no harm whatsoever.The screw down is just to stop activating the chrono function when not needed.

Peter why doesn't the YMII pushers screw down? Because yacht racing is far less important than car racing?

Smile · 7 August 2014, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Yes, it's true. The lock-nuts have zero function except as a stop point and do not contribute in any way to sealing or water-proofing. The o-ring seals are inside the pusher and a gasket seals it to the case.

Great information. Never thought that I could unscrew the pusher underwater.

padi56 · 7 August 2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

In that case I would rather not have them on there. They are too fiddly. How often do regular chronos get set off by mistake? And so what if they do? It barely effects the power reserve.

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Originally Posted by Rolexpharm

I have never had any problems with the pushers. Maybe the lube inside dried up? If you're not over tightening it there maybe something in the threads

The screw down threads are on the outside and are not normally lubed.

Left to right, HEV, Chrono pushers like on Daytona Tudor range,Twin Lock,Triplock.

JJW · 8 August 2014, 01:41 AM

Thanks for all the great info. The lithium grease seems to be getting the job done.
John

SubTTKky · 8 August 2014, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

The pushers have been activated by a team of French divers at 30m and pushers unscrewed at 60m with no harm whatsoever.The screw down is just to stop activating the chrono function when not needed.

Thanks for sharing this information!

always thought the screw down prevent water from entering...good correction

rmfnla · 8 August 2014, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JJW

I haven't been using pliers to close them. I screw them down by hand only until they make contact. It's opening them that's the problem. Sometimes it's impossible to open them by hand. I haven't stripped anything. I put a piece of plastic between the watch and the pliers.

I'm going to try the lubricant. Would WD 40 be OK?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

no, it would not be. The proper lube would likely be a thin coat of white lithium grease (Fomblin is a trade name), the same as used on the crown threads.

WD40 is not a lubricant, it is a penetrant and a water displacer (WD).

It acts as a lubricant at first but it evaporates fairly quickly leaving almost nothing behind, resulting on metal-to-metal contact...

6 August 2014, 11:48 PM	#1
JJW "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: John Location: Lexington,NY Watch: BLK SS Daytona Posts: 136	Problem with pushers on daytona Hi Guys: I have a SS daytona and I find that at times that I have a very difficult time turning the nuts (I don't know what they're called) on the pushers. I've had to use pliers on them. I'm very careful not to over tighten them. I just tighten them until they make contact. Any ideas on how to prevent this? Thanks, John

6 August 2014, 11:53 PM	#2
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Well first I would stop using pliers as they only need to be finger tight. If they are worn or stripped then they need to be looked at by someone who can service the watch. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

7 August 2014, 02:14 AM	#12
KINGROLESAR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Drew Location: PHILADELPHIA Watch: CROWN MARKED Posts: 2,158	Don't own a Daytona but found this highly informative- thanks. __________________ "Raise your glass high, those here for those not with but a sigh; for enjoy each day, it comes but once, then quickly to the past as it must" - King Rolesar 03

7 August 2014, 07:49 AM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	sound like the watch needs thread grease. fomlin. __________________ watches many

7 August 2014, 07:56 AM	#15
14060m "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Watch: 116610 , 16233 Posts: 1,802	Thanks for the great information __________________

7 August 2014, 12:16 AM	#5
JJW "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: John Location: Lexington,NY Watch: BLK SS Daytona Posts: 136	I haven't been using pliers to close them. I screw them down by hand only until they make contact. It's opening them that's the problem. Sometimes it's impossible to open them by hand. I haven't stripped anything. I put a piece of plastic between the watch and the pliers. I'm going to try the lubricant. Would WD 40 be OK?

7 August 2014, 01:33 AM	#7
Brandon(phila) "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Brandon Location: Phila burbs Watch: DSSD Posts: 755	Try this Sorry couldn't resist

7 August 2014, 01:34 AM	#9
JJW "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: John Location: Lexington,NY Watch: BLK SS Daytona Posts: 136	I'll pick up one of those wrenches, just in case the grease doesn't work.

7 August 2014, 08:24 AM	#16
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	I would first take it to a watch repair guy just to make sure the threads are not stripped. I'm sure one would look at it for free.

7 August 2014, 10:09 AM	#18
Rolexpharm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bensalem, Pa Posts: 638	I have never had any problems with the pushers. Maybe the lube inside dried up? If you're not over tightening it there maybe something in the threads

8 August 2014, 01:41 AM	#23
JJW "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: John Location: Lexington,NY Watch: BLK SS Daytona Posts: 136	Thanks for all the great info. The lithium grease seems to be getting the job done. John

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