Daytona arabic numeral dials

[jackass266]

Hey Guys,

Planning on making a thread about all the different Daytona arabic numeral dial options. In this thread I would like to show you guys all the different arabic numeral dials available for the Daytona. I would also like to show you guys the Franken mods such as red pointers on a white dial. (found here on this forum)

So far I have gathered different versions with Black, White, Blue and Grey dials.

My reasons for creating this thread are:
1 I am looking at buying a Daytona for myself but I haven't made up my mind about which one.
2 I have come across several threads about different versions of white dial with black and red pointers and I saw a lot of posts asking if a specific combination was stock or Franken. Lets get that out of the way so anybody can use this thread for research.
3 There are a lot of different combinations out there and not all of them are genuine Rolex combination. Please only post the genuine dials. People planning on buying a Daytona with an arabic numeral dial could use this thread to do research on wether the pland buy is a combination sold by Rolex, or a Franken as we will be discussing the different versions Rolex has sold. A moderator has pulled my first attempt of this thread with the remark that fake is not to be mentioned or discussed so please do not post any fake.
4 I would like to start a poll to see which version is most liked.


So people, please upload your pics of your Daytona arabic numeral dials!!

But ONLY arabic numeral dials!!
Franken mods are accepted.


Ofcorse I will be ajusting the thread whenever new info comes in so that at the end the main post will be accurate and anybody can use it for research.

[tkerrmd]

AD catalog be of any help?

[MonBK]

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[rdragon]

Hi Guys,

Been searching and reading a lot on this forum and learned quite a bit. I have a few questions regarding this topic on dials as I'm interested in the wg Daytona.

- My understanding (from talking with a couple AD's and reading here) is that you can only swap dials (not able to purchase a 2nd, 3rd, etc...) through RSC. Is it also true that you can only swap for equal or greater and can't swap into a dial that costs less (for ex. going from a mop to a panda)?
- I know that you can't get a pm dial for ss (through Rolex), but can you get dials from another reference within pm watches? So, for ex., if you have a wg or rg Daytona, can you get a yg Daytona dial?
- What year is the above picture of dials from? Under the wg dial family, I don't see the white/black (panda) arab dial but I do see it in the 2013-2014 rolex dial book.
- If you do swap legitimately through RSC, that doesn't/shouldn't void warranty right? Would it still be considered an original (same ex as above, going from mop to panda dial) if you do decide to resell years later?

The AD's seemed to differ in responses and wasn't completely sure as well. Appreciate the info.

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by rdragon

Hi Guys,

Been searching and reading a lot on this forum and learned quite a bit. I have a few questions regarding this topic on dials as I'm interested in the wg Daytona.

- My understanding (from talking with a couple AD's and reading here) is that you can only swap dials (not able to purchase a 2nd, 3rd, etc...) through RSC. Is it also true that you can only swap for equal or greater and can't swap into a dial that costs less (for ex. going from a mop to a panda)?
- I know that you can't get a pm dial for ss (through Rolex), but can you get dials from another reference within pm watches? So, for ex., if you have a wg or rg Daytona, can you get a yg Daytona dial?
- What year is the above picture of dials from? Under the wg dial family, I don't see the white/black (panda) arab dial but I do see it in the 2013-2014 rolex dial book.
- If you do swap legitimately through RSC, that doesn't/shouldn't void warranty right? Would it still be considered an original (same ex as above, going from mop to panda dial) if you do decide to resell years later?

The AD's seemed to differ in responses and wasn't completely sure as well. Appreciate the info.

I have never understood Rolex policy...in my opinion...Dials for any Daytona
should be bought at will and you should be able to inter-change with
what ever YOU fancy - rather than the company producing the dial you want
- to dictate what you should or shouldn't have

This is the reason Panda dials for your SS Daytona cost on average $1,500 plus
(I have paid $600-$900-$1200-$1500-$1700) when MSRP is less than $500 !!

[Lgear080]

Let's cut to the chase... If you bother with Rsc for anything other than a perceived two year warranty you're wasting time. If you believe Rsc will simply help you get the dial swap you want, you're wrong. All of these dials can be easily sourced from reputable dealers for a price. The dials can be swapped by anyone with the proper tools and knowledge.

This answers all of your questions :)

[Roger1079]

Originally Posted by MonBK

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And in a single post, this thread is complete.

Originally Posted by TempoKing

I have never understood Rolex policy...in my opinion...Dials for any Daytona
should be bought at will and you should be able to inter-change with
what ever YOU fancy - rather than the company producing the dial you want
- to dictate what you should or shouldn't have

This is the reason Panda dials for your SS Daytona cost on average $1,500 plus
(I have paid $600-$900-$1200-$1500-$1700) when MSRP is less than $500 !!

I understand it. Rolex is protecting their trademark and they will not assist in the dilution of their line of watches. This is also in an effort to keep fakes from passing as frankenwatches because some genuine parts were used, by way of strict inventory control. You may see it is inconvenient, but most see it as a protection of their investment by the manufacturer.

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Let's cut to the chase... If you bother with Rsc for anything other than a perceived two year warranty you're wasting time. If you believe Rsc will simply help you get the dial swap you want, you're wrong. All of these dials can be easily sourced from reputable dealers for a price. The dials can be swapped by anyone with the proper tools and knowledge.

This answers all of your questions :)

+1. Just find one here on TRF and install at a trusted watchmaker. It is well worth the price of admission

[D116622]

might as well as this question here ... I don't quite understand "Arabic dials" , I know Arabic numerals but what I don't understand is why (for example an airking with blue Arabic dial ) some dials are called Arabic but don't have the numerals ? Sorry for bad grammar I just woke up.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by D116622

might as well as this question here ... I don't quite understand "Arabic dials" , I know Arabic numerals but what I don't understand is why (for example an airking with blue Arabic dial ) some dials are called Arabic but don't have the numerals ? Sorry for bad grammar I just woke up.

Any dial with Arabic numerals is an Arabic dial. Roman numeral is a roman dial.

[rdragon]

So still not clear on something. Let's say I get a 116519 with a dial I don't like and get another dial within that reference, if I send to rsc for work, do I have to swap it back? I know you do if you get a dial from pm references for a ss but wondering about staying within the allowed dials.

Tempoking - Are you saying MSRP for panda dial is 500 through rsc (if you already own a pm Daytona and are swapping)?

[Lgear080]

i'll say this again... RSC won't be swapping dials for you. If you buy a dial, swap it yourself.
End of story. You'll never purchase a panda dial thru RSC so your question is moot.

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by rdragon

So still not clear on something. Let's say I get a 116519 with a dial I don't like and get another dial within that reference, if I send to rsc for work, do I have to swap it back? I know you do if you get a dial from pm references for a ss but wondering about staying within the allowed dials.

Tempoking - Are you saying MSRP for panda dial is 500 through rsc (if you already own a pm Daytona and are swapping)?

You must swap back if you want to do any work done through rolex. They will not allow you to service a watch with a dial it did not come with.

It has been noted that if you choose to service it, then rolex will revert it to the original dial at your cost.

[rdragon]

Solo118 - I see, thanks. Seems odd that you have to swap back if they are the ones who swapped it for you (and staying within an actual model they sell). Also, where are the people selling dials on trf getting dials from (if they are based in US)? Sounds like only some of those in EU are able to get dials as extras from some AD's in the EU because they aren't strict as the US (or not bound by same rules)?

Lgear080 - I guess by swapping, I meant purchasing through RSC and where they keep yours and give you the new one. Are you saying they don't do this?

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic.

[D116622]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Any dial with Arabic numerals is an Arabic dial. Roman numeral is a roman dial.

The reason I ask is (for example) the Daytona in the sale section ... I don't see any numerals on it but it's listed as an Arabic dial ? Am I missing something ?

[Time Exposure]

Originally Posted by D116622

The reason I ask is (for example) the Daytona in the sale section ... I don't see any numerals on it but it's listed as an Arabic dial ? Am I missing something ?

If the dial has neither Roman nor Arabic hour markers, the dial is referred to as a stick dial for its stick hour markers. Perhaps the seller has a stick dial and had the sub-dials in mind when writing the ad? Dunno...