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meloncap78 · 4 April 2008, 11:10 PM

Good morning people. My wife is trying to have me a T-shirt made in reference to my new LV. It will read "I'm with my LV Sub with an arrow pointing to my left wrist. It will also have the Rolex crown on it. I know sounds a bit rediculous. (Personally I think she is trying to get me knocked off for it haha) Anyways my question is, if the Rolex crown gets put on there is that in anyway copyright infringement?

KJacques · 4 April 2008, 11:43 PM

Why would copyright infringement matter? Surely she wouldn't intend for you to wear it outside the house?

meloncap78 · 4 April 2008, 11:44 PM

Actually I think she does! Her words are "who cares what people think"

Stef_Call · 4 April 2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by meloncap78

Actually I think she does! Her words are "who cares what people think"

Mmmmmm.. Pics please when you get it !!

meloncap78 · 4 April 2008, 11:57 PM

Sure enough. Thing is, I just don't wanna do anything illegal. Thats the only reason I made this silly thread.

astcell · 5 April 2008, 12:49 AM

Only if you sell it for a profit or berate the trademark. My brother just got 'caught" making racing shirts for friends because he gets jerseys cheap and is a big fan. The race group went after him but when they found out there was no $ and it was in the spirit of being a fan, they backed way off. YMMV.

mfer · 5 April 2008, 01:00 AM

Not illegal if you don't sell, but I don't think it is a good idea.

meloncap78 · 5 April 2008, 01:16 AM

Does Rolex make shirts you can buy?

seantk · 5 April 2008, 02:49 AM

I would wear the shirt in a social situation among friends such as a BBQ or a Rolex Fan get together.. but

I do not think it would be a good idea to wear a shirt that could draw unwanted attention to your Rolex in public. Unless you are Chuck Liddell or Quinton "Rampage" Jackson

Sean

DSJ · 5 April 2008, 02:55 AM

AFAIK, there is only a trademark violation if you are using it for commercial purposes. Don't try to sell it. IMO, it's no more a violation than Jocke's tattoo. Heck, they should pay you for free advertising!

Brunotheboxer · 5 April 2008, 03:45 AM

Do you carry a gun?

Mrdi · 5 April 2008, 03:48 AM

Just don't use the Rolex crown

Markg · 5 April 2008, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meloncap78

Anyways my question is, if the Rolex crown gets put on there is that in anyway copyright infringement?

trademark infringement certainly

Lisa · 5 April 2008, 04:00 AM

Gently tell your wife she's full of great ideas, but this isn't one of them!

Trurolexer · 5 April 2008, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stef_Call

Mmmmmm.. Pics please when you get it !!

This thread nothing without pics!!! lol!!! j/k

CoopJr · 5 April 2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Gently tell your wife she's full of great ideas, but this isn't one of them!

X100

Scooby · 5 April 2008, 06:33 AM

As others have said, it's Trademark, not copyright, infringement.

And if I recall (I'm a patent guy, not much TM knowledge), it doesn't matter about commercial sales for you to infringe. If a company allows use of their trademarks without enforcing them, they could eventually lose their rights to them by having them ruled abandoned and in the public domain. I recall this when reading about Disney going after schools and daycare centers for unauthorized murals of their characters. Professional sports leagues do this too to local youth programs.

Again, not up on the particulars of enforcement and all. Maybe Ed (Rockrolex) would know. He's one them evil IP attorneys.

meloncap78 · 5 April 2008, 07:16 AM

I do notice that whenever you see their logo online or on any of thier products there is not "R" next to it. Don't know if this means anything or not.

BLSampson · 5 April 2008, 08:14 AM

My wife makes my Rolex shirts and caps. I use them for personnel use. Nothing illegal there. There are Rolex logos used in this forum, nothing illegal there.

jazzieg · 5 April 2008, 08:49 AM

Hello all,

I am new to the forum (been lurking for a while) and thought that I would say hello and add a comment because I am a trademark attorney.

Scooby is 100% correct. The use of someone’s trademark (T-shirts, hats, this forum, etc.) is technically infringement. While I doubt Rolex will chase the average consumer down, they do have the legal right to.
FYI the R in the circle means the mark is registered with the Patent & Trademark Office.

Thank you for allowing me to jump in.

Perdu · 5 April 2008, 09:04 AM

Rolex are very protective of their brand and go after trademark infrigement. Not only are the conponents of image trademarked but likely also the placements, e.g., the minimum distance between the princess crown and the word Rolex.

scottschoe · 5 April 2008, 03:01 PM

Who cares if it's illegal..it's going to be ugly as sin

mike · 5 April 2008, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meloncap78

Does Rolex make shirts you can buy?

Rolex doesn't make shirts, but there's a lot of promotional stuff out there,

Tomi · 8 April 2008, 02:23 AM

Ford

Norm · 8 April 2008, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzieg

Hello all,

I am new to the forum (been lurking for a while) and thought that I would say hello and add a comment because I am a trademark attorney.

Scooby is 100% correct. The use of someone’s trademark (T-shirts, hats, this forum, etc.) is technically infringement. While I doubt Rolex will chase the average consumer down, they do have the legal right to.
FYI the R in the circle means the mark is registered with the Patent & Trademark Office.

Thank you for allowing me to jump in.

Nothing like having an expert. Thank you. I'm waiting for someone to ask "what happens when you swallow a Rolex?" That's about the only expert advice (Gastroenterologist) I'll be able to give on this forum with all these watch afficionados.

cmr · 8 April 2008, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

Ford

this could get good, is ford suing rolex for using the ford blue oval blue on the new wg blue sub? it looks just like the engine in my 1976 f150 4wd.

meloncap78 · 8 April 2008, 04:27 AM

HAHA!!!! This is great!

johnnybravo1210 · 9 April 2008, 02:34 AM

This is the funniest thing I have ever heard, but I do want one

buz-lh · 9 April 2008, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm

Nothing like having an expert. Thank you. I'm waiting for someone to ask "what happens when you swallow a Rolex?" That's about the only expert advice (Gastroenterologist) I'll be able to give on this forum with all these watch afficionados.

I would guess you would have to take some sort of "time release" meds if that happens.

jasonbellevue · 9 April 2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzieg

Hello all,

I am new to the forum (been lurking for a while) and thought that I would say hello and add a comment because I am a trademark attorney.

Scooby is 100% correct. The use of someone’s trademark (T-shirts, hats, this forum, etc.) is technically infringement. While I doubt Rolex will chase the average consumer down, they do have the legal right to.
FYI the R in the circle means the mark is registered with the Patent & Trademark Office.

Thank you for allowing me to jump in.

Warm welcome to TRF jazzieg.

Thank you for the clarification. "While I doubt Rolex will chase the average consumer down, they do have the legal right to."

Josh, I say go for it, man. I can't wait for the pics.

4 April 2008, 11:10 PM	#1
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	My wife is having a T-shirt made Good morning people. My wife is trying to have me a T-shirt made in reference to my new LV. It will read "I'm with my LV Sub with an arrow pointing to my left wrist. It will also have the Rolex crown on it. I know sounds a bit rediculous. (Personally I think she is trying to get me knocked off for it haha) Anyways my question is, if the Rolex crown gets put on there is that in anyway copyright infringement?

5 April 2008, 01:00 AM	#7
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Not illegal if you don't sell, but I don't think it is a good idea. __________________ member#3242

5 April 2008, 02:49 AM	#9
seantk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Sean Location: West Florida Posts: 2,671	I would wear the shirt in a social situation among friends such as a BBQ or a Rolex Fan get together.. but I do not think it would be a good idea to wear a shirt that could draw unwanted attention to your Rolex in public. Unless you are Chuck Liddell or Quinton "Rampage" Jackson Sean __________________ "Life is frittered away with detail... simplify, simplify!" Henry D. Thoreau

5 April 2008, 02:55 AM	#10
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	AFAIK, there is only a trademark violation if you are using it for commercial purposes. Don't try to sell it. IMO, it's no more a violation than Jocke's tattoo. Heck, they should pay you for free advertising! __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

5 April 2008, 08:14 AM	#19
BLSampson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bryan Location: Kansas City, MO Watch: TT Blue Submariner Posts: 930	My wife makes my Rolex shirts and caps. I use them for personnel use. Nothing illegal there. There are Rolex logos used in this forum, nothing illegal there. __________________ Yoboman "People sleep safely in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

4 April 2008, 11:43 PM	#2
KJacques "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: USA Watch: the skies Posts: 1,250	Why would copyright infringement matter? Surely she wouldn't intend for you to wear it outside the house?

4 April 2008, 11:44 PM	#3
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	Actually I think she does! Her words are "who cares what people think"

4 April 2008, 11:57 PM	#5
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	Sure enough. Thing is, I just don't wanna do anything illegal. Thats the only reason I made this silly thread.

5 April 2008, 12:49 AM	#6
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	Only if you sell it for a profit or berate the trademark. My brother just got 'caught" making racing shirts for friends because he gets jerseys cheap and is a big fan. The race group went after him but when they found out there was no $ and it was in the spirit of being a fan, they backed way off. YMMV.

5 April 2008, 01:16 AM	#8
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	Does Rolex make shirts you can buy?

5 April 2008, 03:45 AM	#11
Brunotheboxer Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Bruno Location: Boston/Cape Cod Watch: 16610,PAM. 111, G Posts: 7,608	Do you carry a gun?

5 April 2008, 03:48 AM	#12
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	Just don't use the Rolex crown

5 April 2008, 04:00 AM	#14
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Gently tell your wife she's full of great ideas, but this isn't one of them!

5 April 2008, 06:33 AM	#17
Scooby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Darren Location: Virginia, USA Watch: GMT Posts: 923	As others have said, it's Trademark, not copyright, infringement. And if I recall (I'm a patent guy, not much TM knowledge), it doesn't matter about commercial sales for you to infringe. If a company allows use of their trademarks without enforcing them, they could eventually lose their rights to them by having them ruled abandoned and in the public domain. I recall this when reading about Disney going after schools and daycare centers for unauthorized murals of their characters. Professional sports leagues do this too to local youth programs. Again, not up on the particulars of enforcement and all. Maybe Ed (Rockrolex) would know. He's one them evil IP attorneys.

5 April 2008, 07:16 AM	#18
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	I do notice that whenever you see their logo online or on any of thier products there is not "R" next to it. Don't know if this means anything or not.

5 April 2008, 08:49 AM	#20
jazzieg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WI Posts: 1	Hello all, I am new to the forum (been lurking for a while) and thought that I would say hello and add a comment because I am a trademark attorney. Scooby is 100% correct. The use of someone’s trademark (T-shirts, hats, this forum, etc.) is technically infringement. While I doubt Rolex will chase the average consumer down, they do have the legal right to. FYI the R in the circle means the mark is registered with the Patent & Trademark Office. Thank you for allowing me to jump in.

5 April 2008, 09:04 AM	#21
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	Rolex are very protective of their brand and go after trademark infrigement. Not only are the conponents of image trademarked but likely also the placements, e.g., the minimum distance between the princess crown and the word Rolex. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

5 April 2008, 03:01 PM	#22
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	Who cares if it's illegal..it's going to be ugly as sin

8 April 2008, 02:23 AM	#24
Tomi Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Tomi Location: Finland Posts: 165	Ford Ford

8 April 2008, 04:27 AM	#27
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	HAHA!!!! This is great!

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johnnybravo1210 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: usa Posts: 140	This is the funniest thing I have ever heard, but I do want one

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