Classic SD inventories

[sbakar]

Hi everyone,

Just returned to Toronto after a quick trip to Niagara Falls and London, Ontario. I stopped by several AD's on my never-ending quest to find the best deal. BTW, I have now found the SD (M-serial) selling for $5,275 CDN (taxes included). Please PM me for details. This is the lowest I have EVER seen, but the owner just WILL NOT ship ANYWHERE due to problems with previous customers.

Regarding the price increase I posted about earlier, it seems that some AD's have heard of it, and some have not heard anything. The ones that haven't heard of any increase say that there is no warning...that they simply get a new price list by courier, and that the new prices are effective immediately. They also doubted that the price would increase on the SD, given that it is being discontinued.

Some AD's did say that they are not able to order new ones any more, for the reason that Rolex is running out of SD stock worldwide. Very recently, a thread came up (...hot off the press) in which the DS was pegged at being 9 months away in the UK, and that the old SD will be phased out concurrently.

Does this mean that the classic SD should be easily available for several months yet? Or has Rolex stopped production and will only sell until supplies run out? Some AD's were suggesting that supply is so rare now that the classic SD cannot even be ordered now.

Any truth to all this? Do you think the SD will still be available in 1.5-2 months (my purchase timeframe)???

Comments?

SNB

[scottschoe]

There's no shortage of them in my area, and I don't foresee one for a while. The DS isn't going to hit for quite some time.

[sbakar]

Seems like a bit of a sales tactic then, huh?

One AD in London, Ontario is still sitting with a D-serial SD and claimed that they sell a lot of SD's Most others have Z-serials, with the occasional M. One AD was not even willing to discount from $6,480. I flat out told him that his price was more than $1,000 over the others, but he said that 'people are snatching them up, I will sell every example in my stock at full price.'

SNB

[rescue7]

Dude word to the wise, "shite or get off the pot".
It sounds like that's the best price to be had and my gut feeling is the SD will be replaced by the SDDS, at a price around 9k Canadian.
I think it will be available for a while longer but once Rolex stops production then bye bye discount. AD's will froth at the mouth to sell it at full msrp!

Quick question why have it shipped when you can wear it home and ship the box?

[Bobareno]

The price looks pretty good to me, better get it.

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by rescue7

Dude word to the wise, "shite or get off the pot".
It sounds like that's the best price to be had and my gut feeling is the SD will be replaced by the SDDS, at a price around 9k Canadian.
I think it will be available for a while longer but once Rolex stops production then bye bye discount. AD's will froth at the mouth to sell it at full msrp!

Quick question why have it shipped when you can wear it home and ship the box?

To answer your first comment and your question, I am waiting for admission decisions to be released mid-May. I am in the Toronto area for interviews and am looking around at the many AD's because they were all on the way and conveniently accessible. Once I return to Vancouver, I probably will not be in the Toronto area for a while. Thus, I will have to get everything shipped to Vancouver. This is supposed to be a gift to myself for making it in, so buying now would be presumptuous and would ruin the occasion. This is a milestone purchase, so it simply cannot be rushed. However, there is no harm in shopping around a priori and getting a feel for the market. That is one of the reasons I visit TRF...to keep a finger on the pulse of events in the Rolex world, including discounts, inventories, service, etc.

This SD will mean a lot to me once the dealings are done. I simply cannot buy impulsively like some can.

SNB

[Baptistman]

To answer one of your questions: The SD is still very much in production.

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by Baptistman

To answer one of your questions: The SD is still very much in production.

That is what I thought...that the SD and DS will be parallel-tracked for a while, implying that the SD should be readily available for a while.

Do you know if the Z and M serials are being concurrently, or will the Z be phased out before the M? Most AD's say that they randomly get both Z and M's right now in the SD.

Thanks for your reply.

SNB

[rescue7]

In the event of a price increase, $5275 is a smokin deal, ask the AD in question to consign the SD.
If it is a gift towards your admission in mid May then wait and prepare to expect the unexpected, hope it works out but some decisions are meant to be waited on and others are meant to be made on impulse.
I for one have bought on both circumstances and have never regretted the impulse either way.

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by rescue7

In the event of a price increase, $5275 is a smokin deal, ask the AD in question to consign the SD.
If it is a gift towards your admission in mid May then wait and prepare to expect the unexpected, hope it works out but some decisions are meant to be waited on and others are meant to be made on impulse.
I for one have bought on both circumstances and have never regretted the impulse either way.

The deal is smoking, I agree, but what do you mean by 'consign'? This AD is NOT willing to ship ANYTHING (something I have difficulty understanding why, he said that people 'switch' the watch and claim they never received it ), cannot do credit card transactions over the phone (which is fine, I understand his risk), and is not willing to even ship AFTER receiving full payment and my footing the insurance costs and responsibility.

I am willing to wait and see what happens, hopefully somebody here will benefit from my research, too

I m sure that this is one of those things I am willing to wait for. It will make it all the sweeter in the end. Also, I plan on keeping this watch for as long as I can (barring the unexpected), so it will be on my wrist for hopefully many, many years. I want to get it right from the start.

Thanks for the comments.

SNB

[rescue7]

Tell him/her your story and put down a deposit on that particular watch and have them hold the price for you till your scheduled admission time, which is May. Inquire about a refund if you have a change of heart. Also is this purchase a sure thing, you will not back out and decline the deal? Then a deposit secures the price.
It holds a sentimental value to make the purchase at the right moment and if they are professional in there business they will understand.
Some credit cards charge the retailer a fee, so they always prefer debit or cash, plus applicable taxes and in the end you will receive a bill of sale with all warranty documents.
Hey kid take it with a grain of salt, I'm in sales and experience this on a daily basis!

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by rescue7

Tell him/her your story and put down a deposit on that particular watch and have them hold the price for you till your scheduled admission time, which is May. Inquire about a refund if you have a change of heart. Also is this purchase a sure thing, you will not back out and decline the deal? Then a deposit secures the price.
It holds a sentimental value to make the purchase at the right moment and if they are professional in there business they will understand.
Some credit cards charge the retailer a fee, so they always prefer debit or cash, plus applicable taxes and in the end you will receive a bill of sale with all warranty documents.
Hey kid take it with a grain of salt, I'm in sales and experience this on a daily basis!

Thanks for your post, but this AD simply does not take deposits. Period. Either he actually doesn't, or he is just yanking my chain. I tried to negotiate payment terms a bit, but they simply will not budge. He said this about 5 times over, so I didn't push him more after that.

I understand why he is hesitant about the credit card. The transactions costs the merchant about 3% of the value and in the event of disputes, the customer is usually given the benefit of the doubt. Very tricky...

What do you sell?

SNB

[rescue7]

Natural stone, and some precast.
Most of my builders I deal with are vultures, you have to be on guard at all times or they will devour you.
My wife is in Vancouver on business all weekend, I also get invites on occasion , speaking of time wish I had more. More time and devices to tell time with ie Rolex's.

[docnagel]

Originally Posted by sbakar

To answer your first comment and your question, I am waiting for admission decisions to be released mid-May. I am in the Toronto area for interviews and am looking around at the many AD's because they were all on the way and conveniently accessible. Once I return to Vancouver, I probably will not be in the Toronto area for a while. Thus, I will have to get everything shipped to Vancouver. This is supposed to be a gift to myself for making it in, so buying now would be presumptuous and would ruin the occasion. This is a milestone purchase, so it simply cannot be rushed. However, there is no harm in shopping around a priori and getting a feel for the market. That is one of the reasons I visit TRF...to keep a finger on the pulse of events in the Rolex world, including discounts, inventories, service, etc.

This SD will mean a lot to me once the dealings are done. I simply cannot buy impulsively like some can.

SNB

If you want an SD buy that one for $5250.00, list is $6480.00 CDN. I doubt that you will ever again find a new SD from an AD for under $5300.00. There has been no announcement on whether or not the SD will be phased out, but my AD feels it is certainly a possibility given that the GMT II was discontinued with introduction of the "new" GMT II C. Good luck with your acceptance.

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by docnagel

If you want an SD buy that one for $5250.00, list is $6480.00 CDN. I doubt that you will ever again find a new SD from an AD for under $5300.00. There has been no announcement on whether or not the SD will be phased out, but my AD feels it is certainly a possibility given that the GMT II was discontinued with introduction of the "new" GMT II C. Good luck with your acceptance.

Thanks for the wishes. I know this is a great deal, but t is premature to pull the trigger just now.

What I was trying to find out in this thread was how much time I have before it will be basically impossible to get a classic SD at an AD. The overall feeling I'm getting is that we still have a few months left.

Trust me, I am simply itching to get it; the price is tempting enough, certainly. But I am sure that the wait will be worth it. I will be keeping a close eye on the situation till mid-May. If it turns out that the discontinuation is imminent, I will snap one up immediately. Otherwise, I am willing to wait.

BTW I have made a table of 10 AD's here in Ontario and SD prices and my experiences from each. If you are interested in getting this Word document (docx format), please PM me. I hope this will help anyone who is interested in getting an SD in Ontario, Canada.

SNB

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by sbakar

Thanks for the wishes. I know this is a great deal, but t is premature to pull the trigger just now.

What I was trying to find out in this thread was how much time I have before it will be basically impossible to get a classic SD at an AD. The overall feeling I'm getting is that we still have a few months left.

Trust me, I am simply itching to get it; the price is tempting enough, certainly. But I am sure that the wait will be worth it. I will be keeping a close eye on the situation till mid-May. If it turns out that the discontinuation is imminent, I will snap one up immediately. Otherwise, I am willing to wait.

BTW I have made a table of 10 AD's here in Ontario and SD prices and my experiences from each. If you are interested in getting this Word document (docx format), please PM me. I hope this will help anyone who is interested in getting an SD in Ontario, Canada.

SNB

Maybe my 2 cents will help you make your decision on that price.

Was the AD Royal DeVersaille that gave you that quote of $5250?

If so and you really want that soon to be classic SD, I'd jump all over it if I were you.

I purchased my SD from them in January of 2007. I asked them for a 21% discount on a cash deal. They accepted. I paid $5800 al-in for my SD from Royal DeVersaille.

Sounds to me like Irene is giving you a better deal than the one I worked out for myself.

You're NUTS not to accept it at that price if you really want an SD BNIB.

I haven't heard yet of a better price in Canada.

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by Whiskey

Maybe my 2 cents will help you make your decision on that price.

Was the AD Royal DeVersaille that gave you that quote of $5250?

If so and you really want that soon to be classic SD, I'd jump all over it if I were you.

I purchased my SD from them in January of 2007. I asked them for a 21% discount on a cash deal. They accepted. I paid $5800 al-in for my SD from Royal DeVersaille.

Sounds to me like Irene is giving you a better deal than the one I worked out for myself.

You're NUTS not to accept it at that price if you really want an SD BNIB.

I haven't heard yet of a better price in Canada.

PM sent.

SNB

[harvey]

that seems like an excellent price. over here the price is some 3280 pounds...converted to canadian dollars....about 6500 ish.

fortunately im coming over to toronto mid july, so i might need some help to source a SD then from you guys. thanking you in advance :o)

[docnagel]

Originally Posted by sbakar

Thanks for the wishes. I know this is a great deal, but t is premature to pull the trigger just now.

What I was trying to find out in this thread was how much time I have before it will be basically impossible to get a classic SD at an AD. The overall feeling I'm getting is that we still have a few months left.

Trust me, I am simply itching to get it; the price is tempting enough, certainly. But I am sure that the wait will be worth it. I will be keeping a close eye on the situation till mid-May. If it turns out that the discontinuation is imminent, I will snap one up immediately. Otherwise, I am willing to wait.

BTW I have made a table of 10 AD's here in Ontario and SD prices and my experiences from each. If you are interested in getting this Word document (docx format), please PM me. I hope this will help anyone who is interested in getting an SD in Ontario, Canada.

SNB

My understanding is that the SD will be phased out when the Deep Sea becomes available. I was told that I shouldn't expect my Deep Sea for 6 to 9 months ( I ordered it on April 3rd ). So your time frame of a few months should be no problem. I'll ask my AD if he is able to order more SD's.
pm sent

[docnagel]

Originally Posted by harvey.eu

that seems like an excellent price. over here the price is some 3280 pounds...converted to canadian dollars....about 6500 ish.

fortunately im coming over to toronto mid july, so i might need some help to source a SD then from you guys. thanking you in advance :o)

I'm in Southern Ontario. pm me if you need any asistance.

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by harvey.eu

that seems like an excellent price. over here the price is some 3280 pounds...converted to canadian dollars....about 6500 ish.

fortunately im coming over to toronto mid july, so i might need some help to source a SD then from you guys. thanking you in advance :o)

When you come over, please don't hesitate to PM me for my now extensive list of AD's and their prices and my subjective evaluations of them. I will be more than happy to send you this info in a Word document if you give me an email address by PM.

SNB

[sbakar]

Originally Posted by docnagel

My understanding is that the SD will be phased out when the Deep Sea becomes available. I was told that I shouldn't expect my Deep Sea for 6 to 9 months ( I ordered it on April 3rd ). So your time frame of a few months should be no problem. I'll ask my AD if he is able to order more SD's.
pm sent

I also don't see a problem with getting one in 1.5 months, but I asked here to get others' opinions.

Could you let me know what your AD says when you next talk to him/her?

Thanks.

SNB

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by Baptistman

To answer one of your questions: The SD is still very much in production.

I think it is. At least until the end of this year.