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Old 17 October 2014, 05:23 AM   #1
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Screw down change position?

Hello guys, I been having about 14-15 different Rolexes the last 2+ years or so. All of them are pretty spot on when it come down to the Crown postion. Everytime I unscrew it and screw it back it Always come to the same position it had Before.

However my 116718 GMT have like 3-4 different of the Crown aligment when I unscrew and screw it back. Is something loose? does your Rolex does the same thing as mine?
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Old 17 October 2014, 05:40 AM   #2
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My Submariner 5512 does the same thing (2-3 different positions relatively close to eachother). My watchmaker says nothing to worry about as long as it screws down nice and firm and I have had it pressure tested also. However, I have read here that it should always be the same spot every time except a slight difference once the seals brake in.
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Old 17 October 2014, 05:43 AM   #3
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Yeah, mine shifted a bit after service. When it came back it was perfectly aligned but after some "wear in" it cants a bit to the left. No big deal but I really wish it would have stayed centered. Oh well.....................
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Old 17 October 2014, 05:47 AM   #4
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I am just chiming in but its a tube with threads and shouldn't it re seat itself pretty darn close every time upon hand tightening? How would it change positions?
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Old 17 October 2014, 06:04 AM   #5
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I am just chiming in but its a tube with threads and shouldn't it re seat itself pretty darn close every time upon hand tightening? How would it change positions?
I have no idea bro. And mine dont change alignment slighty either. It go from the Crown looking almost straight up to sideway.

But I just had it tested a few hours ago and its water resistant so I have no idea what is going on.
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Old 17 October 2014, 06:04 AM   #6
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I am just chiming in but its a tube with threads and shouldn't it re seat itself pretty darn close every time upon hand tightening? How would it change positions?
Easy. Finger tight is all your need, that can vary from person to person as well as each time you tighten it down.
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Old 17 October 2014, 06:41 AM   #7
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Easy. Finger tight is all your need, that can vary from person to person as well as each time you tighten it down.
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Yes I understand that but there should be a point where the thread stops and the crown seats itself in that position when fully hand tightened?

I am in no way an expert on this topic....maybe I just haven't noticed various "closed" crown positions?

Also from crown up to sideways as the OP has mentioned seems drastic.
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Old 17 October 2014, 07:03 AM   #8
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When and if you wind your watch then attempt to screw down crown position will be different Everytime by mm
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The threads on the tube are fixed and the entry thread is in a position that will not change. The same for the crown, it has cut threads that do not move in relationship to the emblem.

Therefore, it is impossible for the crown and tube to engage at any different position. The only variable is the compression of the gasket and how tight you force it, or something bunched up underneath..
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The threads on the tube are fixed and the entry thread is in a position that will not change. The same for the crown, it has cut threads that do not move in relationship to the emblem.

Therefore, it is impossible for the crown and tube to engage at any different position. The only variable is the compression of the gasket and how tight you force it, or something bunched up underneath..
Mechanically speaking this makes sense, OP maybe get your watch looked at?
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Old 17 October 2014, 03:55 PM   #11
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That is the thing, I was just at an AD yesterday to change a dial. I asked if everything is ok with my watch and he said the watch look fresh, no problem with it. Im so confused
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Old 17 October 2014, 05:44 PM   #12
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As above I have found on all three of my BNIB watches the crown position has always been the same point in each individual watch, however over the first few months the position has moved slightly which I put down the the seal/gasket bedding in! Hence my feeling of bewilderment when some people post about I picked up a BNIB Rolex and make a big deal about the crown lining up!
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Hello guys, I been having about 14-15 different Rolexes the last 2+ years or so. All of them are pretty spot on when it come down to the Crown postion. Everytime I unscrew it and screw it back it Always come to the same position it had Before.

However my 116718 GMT have like 3-4 different of the Crown aligment when I unscrew and screw it back. Is something loose? does your Rolex does the same thing as mine?
The winding crown has no alignment points is just a winding crown meant to be turned.Now if there was no emblem on the crown then know-one would have any so called alignment point to worry about.As long as you screw the crown down just finger tight that's all that's needed, irrespective where the emblem lands upright or down side up.
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Old 17 October 2014, 06:13 PM   #14
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Here? First try. Finger tight both time:
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Old 17 October 2014, 07:17 PM   #15
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"Screw down, change position" ......

I thought this thread would be about something else. A little disappointed, I must say.
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Yes I understand that but there should be a point where the thread stops and the crown seats itself in that position when fully hand tightened?

I am in no way an expert on this topic....maybe I just haven't noticed various "closed" crown positions?

Also from crown up to sideways as the OP has mentioned seems drastic.
The rubber gaskets inside will soften some as they break in and the crown will be finger tight slightly more clockwise over time as the seal becomes more pliable. You aren't bottoming out the crown in the tube, but rather compressing the gasket to create a tight seal. This should be noticeable, but not a dramatic change and is 100% normal. As far as crown position when you get the watch, it is hit or miss where the crown on the crown faces. My Sub 116610 was at 2 o'clock and 116520 was at 9 o'clock when tightened while my 116509 was aligned at 12 o'clock. Nothing wrong with any of those and it is completely normal. Hope this helps.
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FWIW, making sure the crown lines up a specific way would add a good bit to the cost of manufacturing since it would require additional hand fitting...
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Old 18 October 2014, 03:58 AM   #18
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My Daytona crown always lands in the same position when finger tight
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Old 18 October 2014, 04:57 AM   #19
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this is typical
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Old 24 November 2014, 08:48 PM   #20
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My Daytona crown always lands in the same position when finger tight
My sub tightens spot on at 12'o clock whenever i manually wind the watch or set the time and date...



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Old 24 November 2014, 09:08 PM   #21
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I think your finger tight pressure varies each time.
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Old 24 November 2014, 09:14 PM   #22
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I think your finger tight pressure varies each time.
But mine is spot on even with different pressures.. i even had my wife do it a couple of times and spot on again.. :confused::confused:
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Mine are not exact nor is my tightening technique.
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