Cases 111 and 312

[Aventura]

hello
PAM cases of Luminor 1950 are different from Luminor Base?
Seem the same but when I see photos of a 312 and a 111 I think they are different. Both are 44 mm. It seems to me or is there any difference?

[Cru Jones]

111 is a "Bettarini" style case from the 90s for 40 and 44mm Luminors. The 1950 case is an homage to the style from, you guessed it, the 1950s.

Look at profile shots of the two and you'll notice many differences, chiefly case thickness, shape and lug angle.

The 372/422 case is 1950, too, but known to be a transitional model of some sort (a more knowledge person could give more info), with differences compared to the 312-style 1950 case.

For me, when I was trying models regularly to find one I liked, I found the 312 sat too high on my wrist and was top-heavy, while the Bettarini case sat much better. Just depends on your wrist and preferences.

[synequano]

In my opinion,the 1950 case works better in lighter materials (Ti,ceramic),yet Bettarini still sits better on the wrist

AFAIK,the 1950 case on 372 is actually a new design that is also different than the 6152

[kilyung]

Actually the 47mm 1950 case is as close to the 6152 design as it gets (for now). The design elements are all there. The only difference really is 3mm thickness between the two.

[Aventura]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

111 is a "Bettarini" style case from the 90s for 40 and 44mm Luminors. The 1950 case is an homage to the style from, you guessed it, the 1950s.

Look at profile shots of the two and you'll notice many differences, chiefly case thickness, shape and lug angle.

The 372/422 case is 1950, too, but known to be a transitional model of some sort (a more knowledge person could give more info), with differences compared to the 312-style 1950 case.

For me, when I was trying models regularly to find one I liked, I found the 312 sat too high on my wrist and was top-heavy, while the Bettarini case sat much better. Just depends on your wrist and preferences.

Thanks for the clarification. This week I'm going to visit to my local dealer to see them personally. I've read some reviews about the weight of 312 and now Forum colleague Synequano talk about the benefits of titanium in the cases 1950. Although many say the 312 is the icon of Panerai models I think I'll decide by 351 if I really like it better than the models equipped with box Bettarini
Happy New Year.

[Aventura]

Originally Posted by synequano

In my opinion,the 1950 case works better in lighter materials (Ti,ceramic),yet Bettarini still sits better on the wrist

AFAIK,the 1950 case on 372 is actually a new design that is also different than the 6152

I'll try. Thanks and Happy New Year,

[Aventura]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Actually the 47mm 1950 case is as close to the 6152 design as it gets (for now). The design elements are all there. The only difference really is 3mm thickness between the two.

Thanks. Happy New Year.