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Old 4 January 2015, 02:04 PM   #1
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Submariner links

Hi guys - quick question...

My partner bought me a YG Sub (116618LN) for christmas. Lovely gesture and I really like it - however...

It only has 9 links - TOTAL. I think the dealer has pulled a fast one and used it for links for other sales and then sold this one with far too few links. Even at full 20mm extension it's not even close to going on my wrist and the links are super expensive each.

Before I start a war with the AD, can you comment? I was told elsewhere that an oyster bracelet should have 13 links as standard, is that right?
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Old 4 January 2015, 02:08 PM   #2
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I thought subs had 13 but soon the experts will chime in.


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Old 4 January 2015, 02:13 PM   #3
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The 116618 YG comes with 12 links. Each additional full link costs $705.

The stainless & TT Submariner comes with 13 links.

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Old 4 January 2015, 02:34 PM   #4
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Whomever the AD was, they definitely pulled a fast one. 3 links for a total of $2115? Ouch.

Let us know how it turns out. Good luck,


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Old 4 January 2015, 03:13 PM   #5
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It only has 9 links - TOTAL. I think the dealer has pulled a fast one and used it for links for other sales and then sold this one with far too few links. Even at full 20mm extension it's not even close to going on my wrist and the links are super expensive each.

Before I start a war with the AD, can you comment? I was told elsewhere that an oyster bracelet should have 13 links as standard, is that right?
A brand spankin' new one will come with 12 links plus a half link. If it was sold as used then it comes as-is and the Dealer doesn't owe you any extra links..

These are expensive and perhaps the AD can get you a good price for replacements or a refund of the purchase if it is a used example.
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Old 4 January 2015, 03:22 PM   #6
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Sounds like all the removable links have been removed.
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Old 4 January 2015, 03:27 PM   #7
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If it was new and sized previously, look underneath the pillow in the box for a small plastic baggie with 3 links.

If it was pre-owned, it is what it is/has like Larry said.
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Old 4 January 2015, 10:03 PM   #8
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If it was new and sized previously, look underneath the pillow in the box for a small plastic baggie with 3 links.

If it was pre-owned, it is what it is/has like Larry said.
It was new and nothing under the pillow... Time for a little chat, me thinks!
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Old 4 January 2015, 10:07 PM   #9
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The 116618 YG comes with 12 links. Each additional full link costs $705.

The stainless & TT Submariner comes with 13 links.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger!
Thanks for the info - just out of curiosity, why does a gold sub come with 1 less link than an SS or TT? Just Rolex trying to make money? Are the gold ones bigger?

My WG GMT M II didn't have any problems :(
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Old 4 January 2015, 10:55 PM   #10
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97208 comes from factory with 13 links (just like the SS version 97200) :

. 6 removable links
. 1 half link
. (2x) 3 links attached to the SEL.
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Old 5 January 2015, 03:09 AM   #11
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Here's a post that talks about it some

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=320339
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Old 5 January 2015, 03:32 AM   #12
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It was new and nothing under the pillow... Time for a little chat, me thinks!
More than a "little" chat, Chris. If that was new then that AD is stealing from you, IMO. Not only should the additional links be provided with a profound apology but they should throw you some excellent Rolex goodies and/or give you a large discount in the shape of a refund!
That's $2250 that they tried to take from you, borderline if not criminal.
Please let us know how this works out.
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Old 5 January 2015, 06:07 AM   #13
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Wow this is sickening. Please let us know what happens.
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Old 5 January 2015, 06:47 AM   #14
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IMHO, if the watch was sized, it is no longer new. Maybe a customer bought it, they sized it, and he/she changed their mind? Doesn't matter. I honestly wouldn't care why they sized it. And if they did size it, where are the links? They either need to get you an actual new watch or provide the links and a refund to match the cost of a used/LNIB watch.
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I am really interested whether the AD forgot the extra links considering was watch was supposed to be new...

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Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet!

I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.
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Old 5 January 2015, 08:12 AM   #17
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Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet!

I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.
I would think the gold alone would be over $100, not to mention the manufacturing costs and the "official Rolex" status.
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Was the watch bought from an Authorized Rolex Dealer as a new watch? If it was, call Rolex headquarters in England. They will take care of it.
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Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet!

I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.
Steel links are under a hundred bucks.. But gold links are considerably more pricey. The gold bracelet runs 15-20,000 bucks.
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IMHO, if the watch was sized, it is no longer new. Maybe a customer bought it, they sized it, and he/she changed their mind? Doesn't matter. I honestly wouldn't care why they sized it. And if they did size it, where are the links? They either need to get you an actual new watch or provide the links and a refund to match the cost of a used/LNIB watch.
Agree and if this was supposed to be a new watch I would not accept it and either get my money back or get a brand new one untouched!
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I would think the gold alone would be over $100, not to mention the manufacturing costs and the "official Rolex" status.
I see. Somehow I missed the part that this is for a gold Submariner.
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My gold has 12 links, 9 is totally unacceptable on a new piece.
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My Hulk has 12 full links plus the half link. Is the stainless Sub the only one with the 1/2 link?
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My Hulk has 12 full links plus the half link. Is the stainless Sub the only one with the 1/2 link?
Did you read my post , #10
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I would think the gold alone would be over $100, not to mention the manufacturing costs and the "official Rolex" status.
You must not of read the whole thread. Check out post #3 above.
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You must not of read the whole thread. Check out post #3 above.
Uh, I did read the whole thread. I was replying to Mis3 who said that he couldn't believe how expensive the links were (so obviously he saw the price as well) and he would've guessed that they would be under $100. I was merely stating the gold alone would be over $100, with the remainder of the cost tied up in manufacturing, marketing, etc.
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Uh, I did read the whole thread. I was replying to Mis3 who said that he couldn't believe how expensive the links were (so obviously he saw the price as well) and he would've guessed that they would be under $100. I was merely stating the gold alone would be over $100, with the other 600 some-odd dollars tied up in manufacturing, marketing, etc.

OK, I understand now!
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Not a chance to accept the watch.

Get a new one that is untouched. That's the meaning of 'brand new'
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And the out come was?
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Old 7 January 2015, 08:08 PM   #30
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I was freaking out when I got my SS SubC delivered. The dealer promised me the spare links would be in the little pocket in the lid of the green display box. I looked and looked, under the pillow etc. Turns out the spare links were in a little plastic baggie in the plastic packing 'coffin'.

I'm guessing you've looked everywhere for the missing links already, but my two cents worth.

Good luck getting an agreeable resolution mate.
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