Forged carbon case

[Rolexfan9]

Is it true that AP is stopping its forged carbon production? If so why? I know that they stopped production on the 44mm and 42(bumblebee). So now if i want to purchase forged carbon, i need to go with the concept style? (Considering that i want to purchase new). Thank you for the clarification.


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[JJ WA]

I don't know about stopping the FC Diver or FC 44mm ROO (both still appear on the AP product list). Anyway, there is also a newly launched ROO Chronograph Tourbillon:

http://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wat...U.OO.A002CA.01

[Rolexfan9]

Originally Posted by JJ WA

I don't know about stopping the FC Diver or FC 44mm ROO (both still appear on the AP product list). Anyway, there is also a newly launched ROO Chronograph Tourbillon:



http://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wat...U.OO.A002CA.01

I heard it from one of the ads in LA. They told me that they are no longer offering 44mm in fc and replacing it with ceramic


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[JJ WA]

If that is really the case and you want FC, then it looks like you'd still have the [costly] option of the new chronograph tourbillon.

[Aldino]

This rumor seems to be true, because online on the AP website it also says Availability to be confirmed. And by coincidence my AD called me just last week, because he knows that I love these 44's, offering it to me and told me the same thing that it is hard to find and they are stopping production. I can only assume that this news was given to them at SIHH in Geneva.

In case you need his contact info, do not hesitate to send me a pm.

[singe89]

I find it strange that AP is stopping its production of FC for base models when brands like RM, Panerai, LW, etc are ramping up production. Guess they want it for more exclusive pieces like the ROO tourbillon chrono, concepts and LEs.

I'm glad I have my FC diver. Almost 2 years of daily duty and still looks brand new. Love the marbled look of the case combined with the polished and brushed surfaces of the bezel.

[Manofsteelpt]

I love my 44mm FC... Going on 3 yrs with it, which for me in watch years, is like 257.

[craniotes]

Yes, the "production" forged carbon pieces have been discontinued (Bumblebee, 44mm ROO Chronograph and Diver). In the case of the 44mm ROO and Diver, they have been replaced with ceramic, which, I gather is an easier sell than forged carbon; let's face it, FC looks and feels like plastic to the uninitiated.

Of course it will still be supported, but it would appear that going forward the material will be reserved for LEs and concept pieces.

Regards,
Adam

[ocwatching]

Originally Posted by craniotes

Yes, the "production" forged carbon pieces have been discontinued (Bumblebee, 44mm ROO Chronograph and Diver). In the case of the 44mm ROO and Diver, they have been replaced with ceramic, which, I gather is an easier sell than forged carbon; let's face it, FC looks and feels like plastic to the uninitiated.

Of course it will still be supported, but it would appear that going forward the material will be reserved for LEs and concept pieces.

Regards,
Adam

I was waiting for Adam for the definative word...staying warm my friend?

[BABKA]

I know they revamped them after the first one was introduced, the limited edition Alinghi, to make it an even tougher form of forged carbon. But I did see a piece that was kept in pristine condition and yet still looked as though it had scratches and dings. Forged carbon is nice, but does look a bit dull. Their rubberclads faced the same fate. Ceramic is harder and has more pop to it than either of these materials. But they're all unique in their own right. So if you like the forged carbon, I'm sure you can find one. However, the Concept style will cost quite a bit more I'm sure you know. The Concept casing is true eye candy and, those in the know, will spot the exclusiveness from a mile away!

[craniotes]

Originally Posted by ocwatching

I was waiting for Adam for the definative word...staying warm my friend?

They danced around the issue for a while, but I've finally had it confirmed from the highest level, so to speak.

And no, I'm not warm. :-(

Regards,
Adam

[masterserg]

How would this affect long term maintenance should one have the misfortune of needing a new case?

[craniotes]

Originally Posted by masterserg

How would this affect long term maintenance should one have the misfortune of needing a new case?

The material will contine to be supported, so no worries on that count.

Regards,
Adam

[sturgeon123456]

Obviously it wasn't a material that sold well, otherwise they would keep it....and I kind of think its a ridiculous material for a watch.

[Manofsteelpt]

Originally Posted by sturgeon123456

Obviously it wasn't a material that sold well, otherwise they would keep it....and I kind of think its a ridiculous material for a watch.

Stfu already. You don't like it, fine, Others do tho. So don't be such an a$$ about FC. Im sure some think orange on a watch is ridic. To each their own.

I love my FC 44mm, and I'm sure MANY others love theirs too.

[singe89]

Originally Posted by sturgeon123456

Obviously it wasn't a material that sold well, otherwise they would keep it....and I kind of think its a ridiculous material for a watch.

Actually they did keep it for APs high end watches like the ROO tourbillon and concept. I would also bet that FC sells better than all white ceramic Diver or 44mm.

It so "ridiculous" a material that RM, panerai, LW and others are using versions of forged carbon for watch cases and others like Hublot, IWC, etc are using more traditional carbon fiber. I for one appreciate that AP pioneered the use of forged carbon for watches. As for durability...if forged carbon can hold up on formula 1 and lambo suspension components as well as golf club heads I'm sure its a fine material for watches.

[sturgeon123456]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Stfu already. You don't like it, fine, Others do tho. So don't be such an a$$ about FC. Im sure some think orange on a watch is ridic. To each their own.

I love my FC 44mm, and I'm sure MANY others love theirs too.

A little harsh to be honest. Its merely a watch and my opinion about the case is that they are discontinuing them due to lack of sales and other materials being far superior/desirable. Why get all out of sorts?

Originally Posted by singe89

Actually they did keep it for APs high end watches like the ROO tourbillon and concept. I would also bet that FC sells better than all white ceramic Diver or 44mm.

It so "ridiculous" a material that RM, panerai, LW and others are using versions of forged carbon for watch cases and others like Hublot, IWC, etc are using more traditional carbon fiber. I for one appreciate that AP pioneered the use of forged carbon for watches. As for durability...if forged carbon can hold up on formula 1 and lambo suspension components as well as golf club heads I'm sure its a fine material for watches.

I am sure its a durable material as far as structural and torsional ridgidity. However one would have to ask why they are discontinuing it if it is selling well, and if the popular opinion was that it was a great material amongst AP consumers why would they stop production.

Also AP makes most of RMs movements so I am sure that AP had something to do with assisting RM in the forged carbon cases as well.

Seriously on this forum if you dont have a popular opinion you get flamed, I simply said that it was a ridiculous material for a watch, how could grown men get so bent out of shape over this? If YOU like your watch thats all that matters, not if I like it. You dont know me so how could my comments be taken so personally and why would you care?

Also one more point....I believe ceramic is a ridiculous material for a watch too....but I own one and its ok, not great....but okay and yes I am not wild about the orange. So whats with telling me to STFU, rather ask why i think its ridiculous to stimulate some discussion.

[sturgeon123456]

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[Manofsteelpt]

At this point, I personally don't care why you think it's ridic. If you said one comment, fine, but you've made a few posts about FC and its not appreciated. We don't insult other peoples watches/tastes on this forum. It's pretty rude for doing so.

I am curious how you know FC is/was not a good seller? Seems to be pretty popular on here, and this forum is a small sample pool I'm sure. Maybe you have inside info that no one else has, and if so, please share.

PS, this is NOT a flame for having a different opinion, its a flame for being rude about your opinion. If you really wanted to "stimulate a conversation" about it, there are/were MUCH better ways of doing so.

[thomaspp]

I like the FC case a lot.

[GB-man]

[DECR]

Loving my FC case! If AP decides to keep FC for special editions and concept cases only I am totally fine with that. The less FC cases the better as long as they keep servicing them, which I am sure they will.

[Manofsteelpt]

[masterserg]

Yep ... a ridiculous material ...

[AK797]

Yes, guys, in the best traditions of this forum, we can disagree without being disagreeable. Words like ridiculous are for IG and twitterbook not here.

[sturgeon123456]

I apologize for the way I voiced my opinion.

I have no inside knowledge either just speaking from a point of view that sales probably aren't great and that's why they discontinued it.

I also think that the watches are beautiful just that it is a very different choice of material. Like who sits there and says let's use forged carbon for a watch?

Anyway just my opinions and nothing more! Take it for what it's worth which should be nothing lol