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Old 31 January 2015, 02:57 AM   #1
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Is there a consensus on the "grail" Panerai

I don't have a Panerai in my collection.

I've seen this discussed before but not sure there was ever a consensus.

What's the one and only one to have??

I'd like to add just one and I would want whatever the most desired piece long term would be. There are so many variations and LEs, etc., that it makes my head spin and I end up just not buying one.

Thoughts??
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Old 31 January 2015, 04:13 AM   #2
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true vintage panerai are the grails

6152 6154 3646
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Old 31 January 2015, 05:20 AM   #3
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This is sort of like asking what is the consensus Rolex grail....
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Old 31 January 2015, 06:59 AM   #4
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My grail lottery go nutz watch.

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Old 31 January 2015, 07:05 AM   #5
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true vintage panerai are the grails

6152 6154 3646
If the OP is into vintage, then that would be the grails. Goodluck in finding one and the $$$ involved too.
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Old 31 January 2015, 08:53 AM   #6
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Vintage is the true Grail, but in a modern reference the 372 is pretty iconic. The 233 is a favorite modern for many, and I am sad I missed the 587. Ther are many more, but these are my modern, mostly available picks.
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Old 31 January 2015, 08:54 AM   #7
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587 gets my vote
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Old 31 January 2015, 02:26 PM   #8
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372 probably contains the most Panerai DNA of the modern watches available.
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Old 31 January 2015, 06:10 PM   #9
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I am also hoping to have one Panerai.

I am planning on it being a 233. In reading a lot of posts on multiple forums, that seems to be a modern classic.
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Old 31 January 2015, 10:48 PM   #10
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Vintage/all-time - 6152.
In my view, the 233 is a modern day classic and strikes the perfect balance between Panerai "DNA" and functionality. Where is Travelller???
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Old 31 January 2015, 10:58 PM   #11
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Old 31 January 2015, 11:14 PM   #12
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My grail Panerai is a 1997 Neo Vintage PAM21 . PAM232 will do for now though ;-)

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Old 1 February 2015, 12:56 AM   #13
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I like the 390. Simple, clean and hand wound.
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Old 1 February 2015, 12:58 AM   #14
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372 for me

those overhyped, way to expensive , often crappy pieces from the 1940's are nothing for me.
An abused simple watch or a 100 - 150K Patek … easy choice for me
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Old 1 February 2015, 01:55 AM   #15
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203 and/or 21
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Old 1 February 2015, 01:17 PM   #16
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This is my grail..

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Old 1 February 2015, 06:08 PM   #17
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Nice 360.

I will add the 587 is my current potentially attainable Grail. Been on so many waiting lists tried too many boutiques on the off chance but always thwarted. Tbh though I think the 372 is a better looking watch :-0
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Old 1 February 2015, 11:18 PM   #18
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Old 2 February 2015, 12:10 AM   #19
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203 would be up there
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Old 2 February 2015, 12:06 PM   #20
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Grail is a loaded term. My order/categories:

1. Vintage 3646, 6152, 6154 (essentially unattainable)
2. Pre-V era - I like the 5218/201A or 202A (attainable, but very pricey)
3. Vendome/Modern Era (aside from the 21) - 232 (1930s), 587 (1940s), 372 (1950s) and the 249/448. Lastly, I would have to throw a T-dial 4 in there too. Pre-A would be ideal.

Hard to pick just one from the Vendome era.
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Old 3 February 2015, 06:47 AM   #21
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203 would be up there
203 would be my vote.

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Old 3 February 2015, 12:15 PM   #22
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I doubt there will be a consensus. According to the Panerai website, Radiomir's were first, then Mare Nostrums, then Luminors. The 424 is similar to the first Radiomir and the 372 is probably the most iconic Luminor. But in reality, I think you decide on Radiomir vs Luminor and then select the one that you like best.
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Old 6 February 2015, 01:19 AM   #23
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What is your budget?
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Old 8 February 2015, 03:15 AM   #24
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So how does everyone see the 127/217 ?
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Old 9 February 2015, 05:01 AM   #25
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i've been on the edge of buying a couple of vintage pieces with a very large cheque

in the end it was a huge amount of money for what was a somewhat old watch, there is always this line about buying the history but the thought i kept having was, it wasn't my history. It was somebody else's who i didn't know and wasn't related to, so meant nothing to me. It's a different world when you can say, it was my grandfathers watch. It strikes me it's a little like buying an old war heroes medals. They mean everything to him and his family. To you they just form a collection. It didn;t help that one of the pieces the dealer had was marked SS and i'm not sure my grandparents having fought against that would have every forgiven me.

The other problem with the vintage pieces is some of them have a very dubious history, it's hard to be sure exactly what you're getting.

so what are the other options, i have a pre v piece but only a collector would really know why it was rare, it doesn't feel special unless you love that kind of thing

for me it would be a 203 and a 21, i have a 203, it's an amazing piece. The moment is primitive, but to flip it over always brings a smile to my face. The good news is there won't be any more so for me it's the perfect luminor. I've never seen a 21 in the flesh but i think would tick the boxes for the same reason.

There are others which are stunning for different reasons, the 448/449 for the history, the 339, 341, 587, 382, 507

but if i needed to sell them all and keep one, one i could wear all the time without worrying about it, i'd take the 372 or 422 is you want the sundial. I think they're the best modern panerai, you can dress them up and dress them down with straps. I didn't really like it as much at first, but the more i wear it the more i love it.
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Old 10 February 2015, 10:44 AM   #26
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127 hands down!!
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Old 11 February 2015, 07:38 AM   #27
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127 and a 599

Plus the new ltd edition 0001
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Old 11 February 2015, 10:19 PM   #28
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I don't have a Panerai in my collection. ... What's the one and only one to have??
Another "thread without a cause"...

1. Budget?
2. Vintage or modern-day?
3. New and/or used?

Get back to us and we'll get back to you (...in a more constructive manner)
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Old 11 February 2015, 10:40 PM   #29
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This is my grail..

Love it Fred


I would avoid the many pitfalls of Panerai grail and go with all purpose Panerai
000 or 111.

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Old 12 February 2015, 03:41 AM   #30
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If just one for your collection most would probably say 372 as it represents the brand's history and is attainable. The value has dropped significantly since it debuted, however it is still a must have for many Ristis. If you buy pre-owned, you'll be in good shape if you want to sell later. Just my
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