DD2 was a mistake !!!!

[lefty1999]

in my opinion Rolex thought process is the following:

DJ2 for a younger generation looks cool and flashy enough and they don't care (or know) how it looked in 1945

DD2 older customers who are refined and they thought this watch is garish and made them look like rappers (unless thy ARE rappers and in that case they loved it) hated it and they are the guys with the big bucks


conclusion: DJ2 will live forever and for god sake Rolex please make a Jubilee bracelet for the darn thing thank you

[tkerrmd]

it is only a 1mm difference so

[lefty1999]

the proportions are the main story here.. mainly the bezel

[kilyung]

1) I own a "mistake" DD2
2) I'm not a rapper nor do I think it looks garish

[Mart007]

I don't think there is that much of a difference.
The case is a little bit different ...

The new dials make the DD40 way more attractive in my opinion, but that's not because the size is different.

[dadonn2]

The difference is size seems pointless to me.

[huynhc]

i liked the DD2 and i like the new DD40 (better). I am not a rapper but im not an old guy. just a young professional. To each his own though i guess.

[swils8610]

Having an 8 inch wrist I like the DD2. I don't find it garish at all. I'm intrigued by the new DD 40, but unless a white dial yellow gold option is available when the time comes I will be sourcing a DD2.

[swils8610]

Looks perfect to me Mike!

[lefty1999]

I don't think there is that much of a difference.
The case is a bit different (lugs), but that's about it...

? I think the main thing by far is the sizing of the fluted bezel on the

[Borsika]

Originally Posted by lefty1999

in my opinion Rolex thought process is the following:

DJ2 for a younger generation looks cool and flashy enough and they don't care (or know) how it looked in 1945

DD2 older customers who are refined and they thought this watch is garish and made them look like rappers (unless thy ARE rappers and in that case they loved it) hated it and they are the guys with the big bucks


conclusion: DJ2 will live forever and for god sake Rolex please make a Jubilee bracelet for the darn thing thank you

Following your logic, isn't the 42mm EXP2 a similar mistake?

Have you ever tried a DD2 or DJ2? Close-up photos can be very misleading. With their 41mm case, they are both reasonably sized watches.

[engin33r]

Originally Posted by kilyung

1) I own a "mistake" DD2
2) I'm not a rapper nor do I think it looks garish

+1

well said

[patek.wis]

Not to be controversial but the majority of DD owners seemed to be from the asian markets with smaller wrist proportions, perhaps thats why the catering to a more proportioned case.

I think the DD2 would look good if I had a bigger wrist to pull it off, or was ok with the insane amount of flash

havent seen the 40 in person but hoping they toned her down a bit =)

W

[Mastergreenhand]

41mm is not too large IMO

[lefty1999]

look at the size of the bezel it can barley pass on the DJ2

[RMC12]

Originally Posted by kilyung

1) I own a "mistake" DD2
2) I'm not a rapper nor do I think it looks garish

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this!! I liked it 2 days ago and I still like now. Certainly not a 'mistake'!!!

Don't get me wrong, I like the DD40 too but it doesn't mean we should rubbish the DD2. That's just ridiculous!

[jjnd08]

I, initially, like the new DD 40mm better than the DDII; however, I do really want to see a side by side shot.

I don't think the new proportions will be too different on the platinum models, but will on models with a fluted bezel.

[lefty1999]

Following your logic, isn't the 42mm EXP2 a similar mistake?

Have you ever tried a DD2 or DJ2? Close-up photos can be very misleading. With their 41mm case, they are both reasonably sized watches.

nope the EXP2 is a tool watch and it works for its function .. and as you see above i actually own a DJ2 and still think the bezel isn't "dressy" at all .. in my opinion

[SaddleSC]

On a related note...I was thinking about the future of the DJII this morning...at first, it seemed that the DJII would logically follow suit and be replaced by a DJ40, but then I started to think more about it....

Although your post title seems to be worded to create a little bit of controversy, I agree with your general premise that the DJII appeals to a younger demographic (based on both price point as well as the bolder, sportier dial options), therefore, I think Rolex will keep the newer proportions for the more affordable and sporty DJII, while returning to the more classic proportions for the DD40.

It will be interesting to see how it actually plays out...I LOVE my DJII, so if it is replaced, I consider myself lucky to have the bigger, more sporty version.

[Cru Jones]

so much excitement for 1 mm!!!

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

so much excitement for 1 mm!!!

Agreed...it is just 1mm, but the case proportions and overall design seem to have changed quite a bit. The bezel especially seems quite a bit less bold and more angled, and the lugs have been thinned down...clearly the new DD40 has a much more classical design that evokes overall look of the original 36mm version.

[lefty1999]

On a related note...I was thinking about the future of the DJII this morning...at first, it seemed that the DJII would logically follow suit and be replaced by a DJ40, but then I started to think more about it....

Although your post title seems to be worded to create a little bit of controversy, I agree with your general premise that the DJII appeals to a younger demographic (based on both price point as well as the bolder, sportier dial options), therefore, I think Rolex will keep the newer proportions for the more affordable and sporty DJII, while returning to the more classic proportions for the DD40.

It will be interesting to see how it actually plays out...I LOVE my DJII, so if it is replaced, I consider myself lucky to have the bigger, more sporty version.

I love yours better to be honest as you can see from the previous photo I got the same exact combo as yours but with a fluted bezel.

as for controversy it just seem to me that some of the guys here are a bit reactionary when something doesn't fit with the TRF conventional wisdom

[franklin]

Originally Posted by rmc12

there is absolutely nothing wrong with this!! I liked it 2 days ago and i still like now. Certainly not a 'mistake'!!!

Don't get me wrong, i like the dd40 too but it doesn't mean we should rubbish the dd2. That's just ridiculous!

very very nice.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

Agreed...it is just 1mm, but the case proportions and overall design seem to have changed quite a bit. The bezel especially seems quite a bit less bold and more angled, and the lugs have been thinned down...clearly the new DD40 has a much more classical design that evokes overall look of the original 36mm version.

yes, true, agreed....but, the DDII was (and is) far from a "mistake". it is fresher and bolder, while the DD40 is more of a classic bigger DD. i feel like some posters are taking the DD40 a little hard.

i would be happy with either, and probably would still prefer the 36 (but with the new movement).

[engin33r]

Here's my 'mistake' ....definitely one of the sweetest mistakes I ever made:



Any other DD2 owners willing to expose their 'mistakes' ? Would be interesting to turn this thread into our collective 'mistakes' thread

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

yes, true, agreed....but, the DDII was (and is) far from a "mistake". it is fresher and bolder, while the DD40 is more of a classic bigger DD. i feel like some posters are taking the DD40 a little hard.

i would be happy with either, and probably would still prefer the 36 (but with the new movement).

Agreed, and for that very same reason, I hope they leave the DJ2 as it is at 41mm for those of us that prefer the bigger, slightly bolder design.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

Agreed, and for that very same reason, I hope they leave the DJ2 as it is at 41mm for those of us that prefer the bigger, slightly bolder design.

[Psmith]

Very attractive 'mistake'

What's "TRF conventional wisdom" ?

[kilyung]

I for one will likely end up with a YG DD40 once more dial options are available. I like the look.

[Eric Chan]

Originally Posted by lefty1999

in my opinion Rolex thought process is the following:

DJ2 for a younger generation looks cool and flashy enough and they don't care (or know) how it looked in 1945

DD2 older customers who are refined and they thought this watch is garish and made them look like rappers (unless thy ARE rappers and in that case they loved it) hated it and they are the guys with the big bucks


conclusion: DJ2 will live forever and for god sake Rolex please make a Jubilee bracelet for the darn thing thank you

I agree with your comments about the DJ II to some extent. Definitely geared towards a younger crowd. I have owned a 116333 and feel that it is one of the best TT watches currently available. However, I am sure these "young" folks still care and respect the heritage of the Datejust. Also, I am another one for the DJ II to have the Jubilee bracelet. Really would have thought Rolex would have done this as this year is the 70th anniversary of the Datejust. Oh well, maybe for the 75th, or 80th.

As for the DD II, I personally really like this watch. To me, it is a great compliment to the DD and see nothing wrong with it. However, when initially compared to the pictures of the DD 40, I must say that the DD 40 appears better proportioned. We will only know this to be true when an actual side-by-side comparison is done later this year.