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Lefifi · 23 May 2015, 04:54 AM

Hi all,
Please some body can tell me what the meaning on Jubille bracelet of my Datejust 16220:
K11
62523H 18
Thank you!

JustinK · 23 May 2015, 04:56 AM

Model number, 18k gold and date code.

Lefifi · 23 May 2015, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinK

Model number, 18k gold and date code.

Thank you JustinK!
I checked now on Rolex Bracelet code, K11 is meaning November, 1986 right?
But my datejust 16220 serial is F...., probably a product of 2005?Also that my bracelet is steel inox, how's 18k?
So how can a bracelet of 1986, 18k with watch of 2005?
I just bought my first datejust 16220 a few weeks ago...So confused

Haywood_Milton · 23 May 2015, 05:38 AM

That clasp was not fitted to an F-serial watch when new, nor was it part of an all-steel bracelet. It was fitted to an older, bicolour watch, probably a 16013 Datejust or similar.

It has been swapped.

Could be worth checking the rest of the bracelet. For a start, are the end-links 555s, or something like that?

The baddies will often fit a knackered or spare clasp --- genuine, but from anything that will fit --- to two lengths of fake bracelet. You then have a b*stard bracelet with all the most conspicuous markings apparently correct, unless you know what you are doing.

The 62523 was available with an H ( for Hommes, men ), with a D ( for Dames, ladies ), and either an M or HD for mid-sized versions.

The 18 denoted the caratage of the yellow metal ( some colonial versions were 14 ) while the all steel version was simply denoted by the unique 62510 reference ( H / D etc ).

I wrote this article about bracelets for the UK pawnbroking trade a little while back, which may help :

In the three close-up pictures you can see another example similar to your own hybrid, but in this instance a steel Oyster bracelet code sits clearly incorrectly on a bicolour Jubilee link bracelet.

Haywood Milton

Lefifi · 23 May 2015, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

That clasp was not fitted to an F-serial watch when new, nor was it part of an all-steel bracelet. It was fitted to an older, bicolour watch, probably a 16013 Datejust or similar.

It has been swapped.

Could be worth checking the rest of the bracelet. For a start, are the end-links 555s, or something like that?

The baddies will often fit a knackered or spare clasp --- genuine, but from anything that will fit --- to two lengths of fake bracelet. You then have a b*stard bracelet with all the most conspicuous markings apparently correct, unless you know what you are doing.

The 62523 was available with an H ( for Hommes, men ), with a D ( for Dames, ladies ), and either an M or HD for mid-sized versions.

The 18 denoted the caratage of the yellow metal ( some colonial versions were 14 ) while the all steel version was simply denoted by the unique 62510 reference ( H / D etc ).
Haywood Milton

Thank you verry much Haywood Milton!

Lefifi · 24 May 2015, 09:08 AM

"Could be worth checking the rest of the bracelet. For a start, are the end-links 555s, or something like that?"
Haywood Milton[/QUOTE]
The end-links is 555B on my watch.

Mark020 · 23 May 2015, 06:26 AM

Amen :-)

JustinK · 23 May 2015, 06:42 AM

Great article Haywood, thanks for sharing.

omitohud · 23 May 2015, 06:46 AM

X2. I enjoyed reading it. 👏🏻

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Haywood_Milton · 23 May 2015, 07:40 AM

Have a look at your earlier post on the General Rolex forum, too. I don't believe the dial is original to the watch.

Thankyou for your pm, but I am afraid that I cannot assist you as requested - or I would be involved in other people's business disputes all day long. If I have simply helped strengthen your case for restitution from the seller, I would be happy.

Good luck !

HM

joli160 · 23 May 2015, 08:09 AM

Nice tutorial

crowncollection · 23 May 2015, 06:53 PM

Would suggest the whole clasp is a fake sorry font is incorrect of the stamping on a few digits

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Lefifi · 23 May 2015, 09:09 PM

Hi to all!
I am respected your advices, opinions...So what should I do now? Get back the watch to the seller? Is it working in US if I've bought online? I still keep all documentations, invoice...
Thank you in advance!

crowncollection · 24 May 2015, 08:10 AM

Send it back

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Avav1 · 19 December 2019, 05:47 AM

Excellent info Milton, thanks

Rollied · 19 December 2019, 02:22 PM

Here, for future reference:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=54362

23 May 2015, 04:54 AM	#1
Lefifi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Mac Posts: 26	What the meaning on bracelet K11 62523H 18? Hi all, Please some body can tell me what the meaning on Jubille bracelet of my Datejust 16220: K11 62523H 18 Thank you! Attached Images

23 May 2015, 05:38 AM	#4
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,330	That clasp was not fitted to an F-serial watch when new, nor was it part of an all-steel bracelet. It was fitted to an older, bicolour watch, probably a 16013 Datejust or similar. It has been swapped. Could be worth checking the rest of the bracelet. For a start, are the end-links 555s, or something like that? The baddies will often fit a knackered or spare clasp --- genuine, but from anything that will fit --- to two lengths of fake bracelet. You then have a bstard bracelet with all the most conspicuous markings apparently correct, unless you know what you are doing. The 62523 was available with an H ( for Hommes, men ), with a D ( for Dames, ladies ), and either an M or HD for mid-sized versions. The 18 denoted the caratage of the yellow metal ( some colonial versions were 14 ) while the all steel version was simply denoted by the unique 62510 reference ( H / D etc ). I wrote this article about bracelets for the UK pawnbroking trade a little while back, which may help : In the three close-up pictures you can see another example similar to your own hybrid, but in this instance a steel Oyster bracelet code sits clearly incorrectly on a bicolour Jubilee link bracelet. Haywood Milton __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 RNCD DSSD 116660.

23 May 2015, 07:40 AM	#10
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,330	Have a look at your earlier post on the General Rolex forum, too. I don't believe the dial is original to the watch. Thankyou for your pm, but I am afraid that I cannot assist you as requested - or I would be involved in other people's business disputes all day long. If I have simply helped strengthen your case for restitution from the seller, I would be happy. Good luck ! HM __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

23 May 2015, 08:09 AM	#11
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,761	Nice tutorial __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

23 May 2015, 06:53 PM	#12
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Would suggest the whole clasp is a fake sorry font is incorrect of the stamping on a few digits Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

23 May 2015, 04:56 AM	#2
JustinK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Justin Location: Jupiter, FL Watch: 1530,1665,1680 Posts: 2,064	Model number, 18k gold and date code.

24 May 2015, 09:08 AM	#6
Lefifi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Mac Posts: 26	"Could be worth checking the rest of the bracelet. For a start, are the end-links 555s, or something like that?" Haywood Milton[/QUOTE] The end-links is 555B on my watch.

23 May 2015, 06:26 AM	#7
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,133	Amen :-)

23 May 2015, 06:42 AM	#8
JustinK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Justin Location: Jupiter, FL Watch: 1530,1665,1680 Posts: 2,064	Great article Haywood, thanks for sharing.

23 May 2015, 06:46 AM	#9
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	X2. I enjoyed reading it. 👏🏻 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 May 2015, 09:09 PM	#13
Lefifi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Mac Posts: 26	Hi to all! I am respected your advices, opinions...So what should I do now? Get back the watch to the seller? Is it working in US if I've bought online? I still keep all documentations, invoice... Thank you in advance!

24 May 2015, 08:10 AM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Send it back Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

19 December 2019, 05:47 AM	#15
Avav1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Anthony Location: Ny Posts: 296	Excellent info Milton, thanks

19 December 2019, 02:22 PM	#16
Rollied 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 833	Here, for future reference: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=54362

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