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Old 22 August 2015, 05:23 AM   #1
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16803 submariner

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-ROLEX-1...item1c5812b808

I didn't report this one but I have doubts based differences to my 16613 and 14060 (50 on bezel, spacing between the hour markers and the minute markers, apparent gold plating when zooming in on the bracelet).

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Old 22 August 2015, 07:36 AM   #2
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looks fine for a 28 year old watch (real)
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Old 22 August 2015, 08:01 AM   #3
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Chris, I think this is an authentic TT sub from 25-30 years ago. Which pictures are you thinking you see gold plating?
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Old 22 August 2015, 08:19 AM   #4
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I think they are bad pics of an authentic watch


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Old 22 August 2015, 08:43 AM   #5
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Thanks everybody for the comments.

Here's what I'm assessing. Vintage reviews of 16800s refer to early production hour markers without white gold rings and later 16610-like dials. Of the SS 16800 images, I see earlier models with a 5513 look and, with heavy "bloom," the hour markers appear to touch the minute markers. None of the later 16800 images with the rings around the hour markers touch the minute markers. To me, the later dials are indistinguishable from a 16610 dial. When I looked for 16803 information, I found that it started in 84 and all the images that I found had 16613-like dials (ring around the hour marker and space between the hour markers and minute markers). So the spacing of the hour markers "too close" to the minute markers raises doubts.

To answer the question about plating. In the fifth picture (bracelet and case back), I think I see silver looking edges at maximum zoom (links on left and right side of image).

To add a new point, the 16803 images that I found had very crisp lettering on the dial (like my 16613) and the lettering on auction watch isn't as crisp.

I don't own one and it's just "different" enough for me to ask for help.

Thanks again for experienced members sharing their knowledge.
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Old 22 August 2015, 08:43 AM   #6
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Not a particularly special model and the starting price reflects that. As for authenticity - I'm sure the pictures are authentic. But without more of a track record from the seller, there's no way I'd hazard that the watch being sold is the same one in pics.


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Old 22 August 2015, 09:35 AM   #7
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I have my doubts on this one too. I'd like to see the actual Rolex font, it doesn't look quite right to me.
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