1675 lume question-relume?

[mh17]

Here's my latest acquisition. A 3.3m serial 1675
After close inspection, the lume seems to have tiny hair like residue (ie on the 6 o clock marker) n seems to be thin compared to my other dials.
Took some pics with n without flash. What are your thoughts on this:
Thanks

[TimeToGo]

Obviously something was done to the tritium. You can see some color to the right of the 4 o'clock marker on your fourth picture. I would not worry about it. There is also a piece missing from the 24h hand.

Since it is a 3.3, the dial it currently has (Mk-4) is not proper for that year of production, so replaced along the way. Again, no big deal - it happens. Find a very nice set of Mk-2 with hands and you will be good to go!

Post some pictures of the case, if you can..

Cheers and congrats on the acquisition!

[mh17]

Ahh.. This actually confirms my concerns.. Could it be that it was de-lumed, washed n had tritium re-applied? Or even worse painted on to create a fake patina?
Seeing that the dial and hands set could incur a big cost to this acquisition.. i might seek for refund

Here are some that I have, will take more later:

[swish77]

Looks as if paint was applied to artificially age the dial/hands. (Just an observation based on the photos. Not definitive, of course.) In addition to the apparent little bits of hair or debris on some of the plots, look at the dimple on the 9 o'clock plot in one of the photos. Very odd. And the 24-hour hand looks strange, with a chunk missing in the "lume."

[springer]

The watch also has a later replacement bracelet, bezel insert and brushed aluminum date wheel (if you are a date wheel person).

[PVR]

Brushed aluminum date wheel is correct for a 1972, 3.3m GMT 1675

[springer]

Originally Posted by PVR

Brushed aluminum date wheel is correct for a 1972, 3.3m GMT 1675

Sorry but without getting into another date wheel debate, as it has been hashed out here before, silver is not correct for that time frame.

[PVR]

I guess we all use our own charts and methods for determining production dates/years as well as for date wheels. I have always gone by the following and will continue to do so:

Prior to 1960: Roulette Wheel (red/black)
1960-70: Cream/Off White Date wheel (variants on number fonts)
1970-1980: Silver Date Wheel (solid or brushed..open 6/9 and flat 3's)

I cant say I have seen as many as you Springer but, I have seen hundreds and that's the chart that has served me well and supported by actual watches. If you use some other chart I would love to see it..

[springer]

Originally Posted by PVR

I guess we all use our own charts and methods for determining production dates/years as well as for date wheels. I have always gone by the following and will continue to do so:

Prior to 1960: Roulette Wheel (red/black)
1960-70: Cream/Off White Date wheel (variants on number fonts)
1970-1980: Silver Date Wheel (solid or brushed..open 6/9 and flat 3's)

I cant say I have seen as many as you Springer but, I have seen hundreds and that's the chart that has served me well and supported by actual watches. If you use some other chart I would love to see it..

Thanks. I have seen that chart before but I do not use it because it is not correct, not unlike many charts found on the internet regarding Rolex.

I've never owned a GMT from 1970 through the early 1970s with a silver date wheel and I've owned dozens of them.

[PVR]

And I too have owned quite a few from the 70's, as well as just about every other sport model from that era (1680, 1665) ALL with Silver date wheels so, I guess this is one of those things..

Why a GMT from 1972 would have a cream date wheel (for example) when every submariner and Sea Dweller from the same time period has Silver is beyond me. Unless of course you also believe that those models should or did have cream date wheels, then we have a different argument.