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Old 22 October 2015, 04:45 AM   #1
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No submariners in Paris!

Hey guys, fairly new here on the forums..

I'm on vacation in Paris for the week and I've called pretty much every authorized dealer in town and apparently no one has a SS submariner! This is so odd to me because every dealer in New York has a few at least. I asked for a SS Daytona for comparison and I literally got laughed at. Is this normal?!

Anyone know where I'd be more likely to find one around Paris? I want to take advantage of the weak euro + VAT refund.
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Old 22 October 2015, 04:48 AM   #2
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Damn Frenchies!
I bet if you spoke French they would bring you a sub, BLNR, and SS Daytona on a silver platter....
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Old 22 October 2015, 04:49 AM   #3
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Very few in ads in Spain either
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Old 22 October 2015, 04:55 AM   #4
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Damn Frenchies!
I bet if you spoke French they would bring you a sub, BLNR, and SS Daytona on a silver platter....
This was my thoughts exactly.. Lol
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Old 22 October 2015, 04:55 AM   #5
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Either everyone thought the same thing you did and took advance of the weak euro and VAT and they have non left.

Or they dont want to sell to americans.
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Old 22 October 2015, 04:59 AM   #6
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:01 AM   #7
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Damn Frenchies!
I bet if you spoke French they would bring you a sub, BLNR, and SS Daytona on a silver platter....
thank you for the french bashing... so refreshing...

it's the same in all AD in France, you have to wait two to three months to get one, even when you are french.
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:22 AM   #8
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Drive to Brussels, they had a SS SubC date on display last time I was there.
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:24 AM   #9
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In Italy the Sub 114060 / 116610 is available
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:25 AM   #10
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:33 AM   #11
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Yeah they have plenty back in the states, which is why I was so shocked. Well, I have a couple days left. Maybe ill get lucky.
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:35 AM   #12
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Yeah they have plenty back in the states, which is why I was so shocked. Well, I have a couple days left. Maybe ill get lucky.
We are still talking about Submariners aren't we?
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:35 AM   #13
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It's true, we hate American. But what we hate the most are people from New-Zealand ...
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:38 AM   #14
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:42 AM   #15
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We are still talking about Submariners aren't we?


Yes lol
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:45 AM   #16
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It's true, we hate American. But what we hate the most are people from New-Zealand ...

Oh no Alpino your French!
I'm truly upset, I feel like a child being told Santa isn't real!
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:50 AM   #17
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Damn Frenchies!
I bet if you spoke French they would bring you a sub, BLNR, and SS Daytona on a silver platter....
I agree. I was about to miss my train from Paris to Germany (last one for the day) and the train's conductor wouldn't confirm if this was the train unless I greeted him in French - "You must wish first me in French if you want my help". Well, I had the "Bonjour Monsieur blah blah" line ready and he told us the details few seconds before it left.
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:51 AM   #18
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Next time ask for a Sous-marin.
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Old 22 October 2015, 05:56 AM   #19
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thank you for the french bashing... so refreshing...
take it easy dude, pretty sure he was it was joking!!
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Old 22 October 2015, 06:02 AM   #20
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Okay, let's break it down...

Sub No-Date 114060 sells for €6500. Global Blue refund rate for that amount is 12%. So €6500 x .88 = €5720 x 1.14 = US$ 6520

Sub Date 116610 sells for €7400. Global Blue refund rate for that amount is 12%. So €7400 x .88 = €6512 x 1.14 = US$ 7424

Unless you really want to commemorate your trip, you're better off waiting to get home and contact a trusted seller!

If you can find a shop that uses a different VAT scheme where you get the whole amount back, you will obviously do alot better as French VAT is 20% but most dealers do use Global Blue or one of their competitors who keep a serious chunk of the refund as their fee.

I forget the name of the street, but there are a bunch of dealers within a small area right near the Place de la Concorde if you want to check availability in person. Paris is one of my favorite cities so enjoy.
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Old 22 October 2015, 06:15 AM   #21
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Oh no Alpino your French!
I'm truly upset, I feel like a child being told Santa isn't real!
Sorry for that, it's not my fault.

But I am paid by American companies since 1988, if that helps ...
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Old 22 October 2015, 06:16 AM   #22
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You should try the area of "l'Opera & La Madeleine - Place Vendome" you ll find around 10 Rolex resellers in no more than 500 meters area on foot.

Bought my BLNR there last week and for sure you can get what you are looking for with a little smile ..

Same in the U.S. Or any where else in the world, it helps!

Ads where short on sports model here for a while , but where delivered at he beginning of october.

Only a few sports model by ads

I live in Paris half of the year and If you need any Rolex adresses will be glad to Help!

Cheers
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Old 22 October 2015, 06:22 AM   #23
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But I am paid by American companies since 1988, if that helps ...
True, I saw your profile pic at Facebook.

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Old 22 October 2015, 06:25 AM   #24
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Paris is the second most visited city on earth and it is associated with luxury. Demand is very high for Rolex.

When i was looking for a SubC last summer, I visited 5 shops. None was available, I enquired how many people would walk in per day to ask for a SubC. The average answer was 7. Same thing for any SS model.

That means a thousand units could be sold each month. Even Rolex Place Vendome only gets 2 a month...
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Old 22 October 2015, 07:10 AM   #25
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Okay, let's break it down...

Sub No-Date 114060 sells for €6500. Global Blue refund rate for that amount is 12%. So €6500 x .88 = €5720 x 1.14 = US$ 6520

Sub Date 116610 sells for €7400. Global Blue refund rate for that amount is 12%. So €7400 x .88 = €6512 x 1.14 = US$ 7424

Unless you really want to commemorate your trip, you're better off waiting to get home and contact a trusted seller!

If you can find a shop that uses a different VAT scheme where you get the whole amount back, you will obviously do alot better as French VAT is 20% but most dealers do use Global Blue or one of their competitors who keep a serious chunk of the refund as their fee.

I forget the name of the street, but there are a bunch of dealers within a small area right near the Place de la Concorde if you want to check availability in person. Paris is one of my favorite cities so enjoy.

7424 brand new from an authorized dealer is really good considering they are 8500+tax around my parts. Can point in the direction of these trusted sellers? I also heard some ADs were offering the full 20% back on VAT. No discount on the watch though.
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You should try the area of "l'Opera & La Madeleine - Place Vendome" you ll find around 10 Rolex resellers in no more than 500 meters area on foot.

Bought my BLNR there last week and for sure you can get what you are looking for with a little smile ..

Same in the U.S. Or any where else in the world, it helps!

Ads where short on sports model here for a while , but where delivered at he beginning of october.
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Only a few sports model by ads

I live in Paris half of the year and If you need any Rolex adresses will be glad to Help!

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Thanks! I'll have to check that out.
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Old 22 October 2015, 07:31 AM   #26
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I think all this points to the idea that if you get enough enjoyment out of buying a watch while on vacation - do so. However, the uncertainty of the "savings" and any joy diminished by worrying about finding what you want and getting it home make make for buying at home a better way to go.
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I am going to Paris in a few weeks, so I am glad to read this and save myself the lost time of trying to find a 114060! Now, can anyone recommend a good restaurant? I'll be in the 7th arrondissement but I am not afraid to walk and/or take the Metro.
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I agree. I was about to miss my train from Paris to Germany (last one for the day) and the train's conductor wouldn't confirm if this was the train unless I greeted him in French - "You must wish first me in French if you want my help". Well, I had the "Bonjour Monsieur blah blah" line ready and he told us the details few seconds before it left.
This is why we have been at war with them for 949 years...
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Hey guys, fairly new here on the forums..

I'm on vacation in Paris for the week and I've called pretty much every authorized dealer in town and apparently no one has a SS submariner! This is so odd to me because every dealer in New York has a few at least. I asked for a SS Daytona for comparison and I literally got laughed at. Is this normal?!

Anyone know where I'd be more likely to find one around Paris? I want to take advantage of the weak euro + VAT refund.
They already sent all of them to the grey dealers
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Old 22 October 2015, 08:27 AM   #30
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I almost bought a Tudor Heritage Chrono Blue in Paris not too long ago.

Funny, I hear all the stories about the French not being friendly but I had a great time all over the country. The best food I have ever eaten on earth. Bar none. The duck is AWESOME.

Of course there is a joke I heard. Whoever, loses the next war has too keep France..............LOL

Did I mention I loved France..............
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