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RLROCK · 18 December 2015, 10:55 PM

I was wondering if it makes a difference if having papers for a new Panerai is important?

When I traded in my Breitling a few months back the dealer (one here on TRF) taking the trade wasn't concerned at all.

Any thoughts?
Thanks

RUpanerai · 19 December 2015, 06:01 AM

Only for resale... if that doesn't bother you then you are good!

RLROCK · 19 December 2015, 11:44 AM

Thanks!

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JMoney1 · 20 December 2015, 08:41 PM

If you bought from an AD and don't plan to sell, not a big deal. But having papers is important for confirmation of authenticity and resale. I only look for full box/papers when I buy pre owned. You'd have to discount significantly for someone to buy without papers if with papers is only a little more.

Travelller · 22 December 2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RLROCK

I was wondering if it makes a difference if having papers for a new Panerai is important?

Unless it comes from a personal friend / Paneristi I've known for some time, I wouldn't even consider buying a ETA-powered PAM w/o papers. the replicas out there are scary good and aside from very few tell-tale signs, indistinguishable from the real deal.

Pre-Vs... 10x even more important because well, they cost 10x more...

As for PAMs with in-house mvmts... I just don't care to buy a watch worth $7K or more w/o box & papers... but that's just me.

Jericho · 30 March 2017, 07:54 PM

People, for real??

I thought there were serious people in this forum.
To the guy asking that rhetorical question, it is VERY IMPORTANT to have the watch papers. there are a lot of reasons why to have them.
I.e. If the watch was stolen, its damage, for authenticity, for resale etc..

Psmith · 30 March 2017, 08:28 PM

^ old thread

Travelller · 30 March 2017, 11:10 PM

^^really, really old thread

Good start, pal...

fullcourt · 30 March 2017, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Travelller

^^really, really old thread

Good start, pal...

el oh el....

jhcam8 · 30 March 2017, 11:49 PM

Old, but new for him. What's the diff if he started a new thread asking the question or comments on an old one? Just asking.

Travelller · 31 March 2017, 01:56 AM

It's not a question, rather a rant... about someone's question... .
So no sir, I see no reason to bring up an old post just to rant on the OP...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhcam8

Old, but new for him. What's the diff if he started a new thread asking the question or comments on an old one? Just asking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jericho

People, for real??

I thought there were serious people in this forum.To the guy asking that rhetorical question, it is VERY IMPORTANT to have the watch papers....

jhcam8 · 31 March 2017, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelller

It's not a question, rather a rant... about someone's question... .
So no sir, I see no reason to bring up an old post just to rant on the OP...

Yes, I misstated his post. Wasn't just a rant, though...

Travelller · 31 March 2017, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jericho

People, for real??

I thought there were serious people in this forum...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhcam8

Yes, I misstated his post. Wasn't just a rant, though...

Call it what you want

Sublovin · 1 April 2017, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jericho

People, for real??

I thought there were serious people in this forum.
To the guy asking that rhetorical question, it is VERY IMPORTANT to have the watch papers. there are a lot of reasons why to have them.
I.e. If the watch was stolen, its damage, for authenticity, for resale etc..

This is nonsense. Having papers for any watch does not prove it has not been stolen or that it is authentic.
It cracks me up that people feel counterfeiters can create a fake watch, but not fake paperwork.

Some people like to have papers to make it a "complete set". It does nothing more....
Personally, I don't care because I can't wear papers. I would rather spend less on the watch and not have papers. Same watch, less money

Tommyk · 4 April 2017, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sublovin

This is nonsense. Having papers for any watch does not prove it has not been stolen or that it is authentic.
It cracks me up that people feel counterfeiters can create a fake watch, but not fake paperwork.

Some people like to have papers to make it a "complete set". It does nothing more....
Personally, I don't care because I can't wear papers. I would rather spend less on the watch and not have papers. Same watch, less money

That a really good point that I would make too. I think there are some timepieces which may be collection grade purchase where an enthusiast who appreciates having the complete set would insist on having everything. Papers for Panerai watches tend to be more important on modified movements however I've seen fake papers and watches.

I think an interesting comparison would be to look at Rolex, which i can only assume that at least 25% or more of all the owners out there do not have a complete set since it is the highest resold watch on the market. Yet when people buy Rolex from jewelers(AD) they really don't mind because they are buying-in to luxury where as maybe for Panerai being more of a enthusiast watch, those buyers look for the details as a hobby.

Just my $.02

18 December 2015, 10:55 PM	#1
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19 December 2015, 06:01 AM	#2
RUpanerai "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: NJ Watch: Pam Patek Rolex AP Posts: 794	Only for resale... if that doesn't bother you then you are good!

20 December 2015, 08:41 PM	#4
JMoney1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 21	If you bought from an AD and don't plan to sell, not a big deal. But having papers is important for confirmation of authenticity and resale. I only look for full box/papers when I buy pre owned. You'd have to discount significantly for someone to buy without papers if with papers is only a little more.

30 March 2017, 07:54 PM	#6
Jericho "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 1	People, for real?? I thought there were serious people in this forum. To the guy asking that rhetorical question, it is VERY IMPORTANT to have the watch papers. there are a lot of reasons why to have them. I.e. If the watch was stolen, its damage, for authenticity, for resale etc..

30 March 2017, 11:49 PM	#10
jhcam8 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: SE MI, USA Watch: Sub C Posts: 2,068	Old, but new for him. What's the diff if he started a new thread asking the question or comments on an old one? Just asking.

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