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warpath · 22 March 2016, 07:52 AM

Orange Hand "Freccione" Explorer II 1655 s/n 561xxxx

This is the first I've been offered and lacking experience with this model I thought it wise to ask for a critique...Does the dial look okay and is it consistent with the serial number range?

Observations are welcome and thanks for looking. Ed

warpath · 22 March 2016, 07:54 AM

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warpath · 22 March 2016, 07:56 AM

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jdmi32 · 22 March 2016, 08:23 AM

5.6 mil serial would put it around 1978, and I've seen MK II dials in that range before, but I don't recall seeing that type of crown guard until the early 80's.

Hopefully some members with more experience can chime in.

swish77 · 22 March 2016, 08:53 AM

Looks like an MKII dial and bezel, but I agree with the above that the crown guards look slightly odd. Maybe they were just polished differently during a service? Here's my 5.4 mil. 1655 for comparison.

77T · 22 March 2016, 09:26 AM

If you're going to spend serious money - it would be worth an eval by a Rolex certified watchmaker.
First and foremost is the case as others have noted. I can't recall when Rolex began the practice of unique numbering for replaced cases for severely damaged ones. But it is possible this case wasn't born on the same time as the dial and movement.
Of course you can then have the movement reviewed for condition.
The other thing is to check is the backside of the dial for markings that the watchmaker would expect to find.

Why would I suggest this? Because there is more money now in "assembling" a vintage high market value piece than trying to make 10 replicas from alternative supplier sources.

Much luck in the acquisition - if all is correct then you will have a special "new to you" Rolex!

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22 March 2016, 07:52 AM	#1
warpath "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: USA Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 339	Orange Hand "Freccione" Explorer II 1655 Evaluation Needed Orange Hand "Freccione" Explorer II 1655 s/n 561xxxx This is the first I've been offered and lacking experience with this model I thought it wise to ask for a critique...Does the dial look okay and is it consistent with the serial number range? Observations are welcome and thanks for looking. Ed Attached Images __________________ If you know how many watches you have, you don't have enough! “It’s better to be seen than to be viewed.”

22 March 2016, 07:54 AM	#2
warpath "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: USA Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 339	2 Attached Images __________________ If you know how many watches you have, you don't have enough! “It’s better to be seen than to be viewed.”

22 March 2016, 07:56 AM	#3
warpath "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: USA Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 339	3 Attached Images __________________ If you know how many watches you have, you don't have enough! “It’s better to be seen than to be viewed.”

22 March 2016, 08:53 AM	#5
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	Looks like an MKII dial and bezel, but I agree with the above that the crown guards look slightly odd. Maybe they were just polished differently during a service? Here's my 5.4 mil. 1655 for comparison. Attached Images

22 March 2016, 09:26 AM	#6
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	Orange Hand "Freccione" Explorer II 1655 Evaluation Needed If you're going to spend serious money - it would be worth an eval by a Rolex certified watchmaker. First and foremost is the case as others have noted. I can't recall when Rolex began the practice of unique numbering for replaced cases for severely damaged ones. But it is possible this case wasn't born on the same time as the dial and movement. Of course you can then have the movement reviewed for condition. The other thing is to check is the backside of the dial for markings that the watchmaker would expect to find. Why would I suggest this? Because there is more money now in "assembling" a vintage high market value piece than trying to make 10 replicas from alternative supplier sources. Much luck in the acquisition - if all is correct then you will have a special "new to you" Rolex! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

22 March 2016, 08:23 AM	#4
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	5.6 mil serial would put it around 1978, and I've seen MK II dials in that range before, but I don't recall seeing that type of crown guard until the early 80's. Hopefully some members with more experience can chime in.

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