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dbhak22 · 26 March 2016, 08:29 AM

Hello experts/enthusiasts, wanted to get some opinions/input on a red 1680. The case has had lots of polishing (5 o'clock lug is especially thin), the upper crown guard is much thinner than the other but I think the dial/hands are great and wanted to see what others thought. The watch is a 2.38m serial which I believe puts it in the Mark V range (since it's not a meters first) but the dial appears to be a Mark IV? Can I get your thoughts?

Also, the insert is service...it is authentic though, right?

dbhak22 · 29 March 2016, 05:09 AM

Any input?? Anything helps fellas, thanks in advance!

05carbondrz · 29 March 2016, 05:34 AM

That 5 O'Clock Lug would be a deal breaker for Me.

Gliderguy · 29 March 2016, 05:54 AM

Maybe it is the picture but is there bubbling on dial between 10 and 11 markers and around 1 o clock. Insert is service?

Lol-x · 29 March 2016, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gliderguy

Maybe it is the picture but is there bubbling on dial between 10 and 11 markers and around 1 o clock. Insert is service?

Good observation

Fleetlord · 29 March 2016, 08:01 AM

PASS on this one. That case is ruined from the lug.

dbhak22 · 1 April 2016, 02:25 AM

Thanks gents. My feelings have been validated. I know laser welding is frowned upon by most but for a case like this and considering it is a red, would letting ABC work their magic just be a bad move (assuming the 1680 is purchased at a fair price all things considered).

05carbondrz · 1 April 2016, 02:55 AM

ABC will NOT add Metal to the Lugs,Only to fix damage.

springer · 1 April 2016, 03:51 AM

I found the "enlarged" pearl hole interesting. It appears it was drilled out for the wrong pearl on that service bezel insert.

R.W.T. · 1 April 2016, 07:49 PM

The photo doesn't really show the lugs. :-/

The only way to get a real idea of what is going on is to shoot photos without a strap dead on looking into the space between on both sides, a top down shot the same way and the back side the same way.

dbhak22 · 2 April 2016, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

ABC will NOT add Metal to the Lugs,Only to fix damage.

My mistake! Thanks for clarifying, very good to know.

dbhak22 · 2 April 2016, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

I found the "enlarged" pearl hole interesting. It appears it was drilled out for the wrong pearl on that service bezel insert.

Thanks, did not notice that...I'm passing on this one. Price is $8k and too many "interesting" things about the watch.

dbhak22 · 2 April 2016, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by R.W.T.

The photo doesn't really show the lugs. :-/

The only way to get a real idea of what is going on is to shoot photos without a strap dead on looking into the space between on both sides, a top down shot the same way and the back side the same way.

Agree. I asked for more pics following my original post which were better and enough to show the guards/lugs being way too polished.

26 March 2016, 08:29 AM	#1
dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	ADVICE / INPUT REQUESTED: 1680 Red Hello experts/enthusiasts, wanted to get some opinions/input on a red 1680. The case has had lots of polishing (5 o'clock lug is especially thin), the upper crown guard is much thinner than the other but I think the dial/hands are great and wanted to see what others thought. The watch is a 2.38m serial which I believe puts it in the Mark V range (since it's not a meters first) but the dial appears to be a Mark IV? Can I get your thoughts? Also, the insert is service...it is authentic though, right? __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

29 March 2016, 05:09 AM	#2
dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	Any input?? Anything helps fellas, thanks in advance! __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

1 April 2016, 02:25 AM	#7
dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	Thanks gents. My feelings have been validated. I know laser welding is frowned upon by most but for a case like this and considering it is a red, would letting ABC work their magic just be a bad move (assuming the 1680 is purchased at a fair price all things considered). __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

1 April 2016, 03:51 AM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	I found the "enlarged" pearl hole interesting. It appears it was drilled out for the wrong pearl on that service bezel insert. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

29 March 2016, 05:34 AM	#3
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	That 5 O'Clock Lug would be a deal breaker for Me.

29 March 2016, 05:54 AM	#4
Gliderguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Alberto Garcia Location: Argentina Watch: 5513 Posts: 188	Maybe it is the picture but is there bubbling on dial between 10 and 11 markers and around 1 o clock. Insert is service?

29 March 2016, 08:01 AM	#6
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,023	PASS on this one. That case is ruined from the lug.

1 April 2016, 02:55 AM	#8
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	ABC will NOT add Metal to the Lugs,Only to fix damage.

1 April 2016, 07:49 PM	#10
R.W.T. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,004	The photo doesn't really show the lugs. :-/ The only way to get a real idea of what is going on is to shoot photos without a strap dead on looking into the space between on both sides, a top down shot the same way and the back side the same way.

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