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tjbender · 8 April 2016, 03:57 AM

Received a retargeting ad from Crown & Caliber with an image of a red sub (red bezel and dial). They're claiming it's certified authentic. I've never seen one, is this legit? If so, what's the story behind it?

https://www.crownandcaliber.com/buy/...16610-wan29993

Toony · 8 April 2016, 03:58 AM

It's an aftermarket dial.

AU_911tt · 8 April 2016, 03:58 AM

I think their wording is a little deceiving. I think it is authentic "Crown and Caliber" aftermarket parts.

FTX I · 8 April 2016, 04:05 AM

Authentic abomination.

mjclark32 · 8 April 2016, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AU_911tt

I think their wording is a little deceiving. I think it is authentic "Crown and Caliber" aftermarket parts.

Yeah...

"Crown and caliber certify authentic" "aftermarket dial color"

samshah · 8 April 2016, 04:22 AM

Yup, they've disclosed an aftermarket dial on the site. I think forgot to say it's an aftermarket bezel too?

They're a decent outfit to work with. I've purchased a couple of Omegas from them over the past 18 months. I would have bought from the exclusively if they didn't jack up the prices on some pieces to ridiculous levels.

Tools · 8 April 2016, 06:53 AM

"Certified Authentic" - with aftermarket parts..

Reminds me of another well known on-line sales outfit that made such claims and finally lost their entire business in court.

southcarolina1801 · 8 April 2016, 07:17 AM

C&C has a nice selection but I think their prices are borderline ridiculous

Spartacus · 8 April 2016, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

"Certified Authentic" - with aftermarket parts..

Reminds me of another well known on-line sales outfit that made such claims and finally lost their entire business in court.

Can you PM me the name of the business, I am interested!

kirksingleton · 8 April 2016, 03:13 PM

Gross

crowncollection · 8 April 2016, 05:32 PM

Ugly

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Chris B · 8 April 2016, 06:24 PM

Abdullasaif · 8 April 2016, 08:12 PM

petereoin · 8 April 2016, 08:39 PM

States in ad "Aftermarket dial color", but no mention of the aftermarket bezel

Daytona88 · 8 April 2016, 08:43 PM

I think a red sub could look cool if it was done right, a la The Hulk. That attempt is pretty weak and looks awful, IMO

jbenjamin1 · 8 April 2016, 08:46 PM

What the...

brandrea · 8 April 2016, 08:50 PM

Oh boy

minute_man · 8 April 2016, 09:01 PM

Awful

brettpaul · 8 April 2016, 09:03 PM

Yep, authentic aftermarket

padi56 · 8 April 2016, 09:17 PM

Not my cup of tea but some must like it, most probably the same that would buy if the bracelet screws were multicoloured skybluepink.

Furbo · 8 April 2016, 09:23 PM

Great buy... if you don't mind everyone thinking you have a fake Rolex.

WatchinMD · 8 April 2016, 09:26 PM

not for me

Bo-Dacious · 9 April 2016, 12:10 AM

I don't love it, but I don't think it looks bad.

The brightness does strain the eyes, though.

Chaching · 9 April 2016, 12:52 AM

Foxglove · 9 April 2016, 04:48 AM

looks like a cheap pos.

jrs146 · 9 April 2016, 05:02 AM

VERY Deceptive. C&C does a TON of marketing and I'm sure they appeal to people who may not have as much knowledge as us forum members. If I were a lamen, I would have NO idea that this watch is aftermarket. Some poor guy is going to buy that and think he has a unique authentic Rolex...

RolexAuthority · 9 April 2016, 05:04 AM

It's certifiable if you ever buy that faked

dysondiver · 9 April 2016, 05:05 AM

not what i would expect to see if i bought a red sub ,,
i hate to think of the depreciation on that thing though ,,, i think if you bought it you really would have to love it , as you may just be its last owner.

fskywalker · 9 April 2016, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FTX I

Authentic abomination.

flathead59 · 9 April 2016, 07:36 AM

That was not what I expected to see when I saw "Red Sub" in the topic title!

Mark

8 April 2016, 03:57 AM	#1
tjbender 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Tim Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 2,428	"Red Sub" - Certified Authentic? Received a retargeting ad from Crown & Caliber with an image of a red sub (red bezel and dial). They're claiming it's certified authentic. I've never seen one, is this legit? If so, what's the story behind it? https://www.crownandcaliber.com/buy/...16610-wan29993

8 April 2016, 06:53 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	"Certified Authentic" - with aftermarket parts.. Reminds me of another well known on-line sales outfit that made such claims and finally lost their entire business in court. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 April 2016, 05:32 PM	#11
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Ugly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

8 April 2016, 09:03 PM	#19
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	Yep, authentic aftermarket __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

8 April 2016, 09:17 PM	#20
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Not my cup of tea but some must like it, most probably the same that would buy if the bracelet screws were multicoloured skybluepink. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

8 April 2016, 03:58 AM	#2
Toony "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Tony Location: Gatchaman Posts: 1,873	It's an aftermarket dial.

8 April 2016, 03:58 AM	#3
AU_911tt ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Chase Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 20,525	I think their wording is a little deceiving. I think it is authentic "Crown and Caliber" aftermarket parts.

8 April 2016, 04:05 AM	#4
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Authentic abomination.

8 April 2016, 04:22 AM	#6
samshah "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NYC Posts: 138	Yup, they've disclosed an aftermarket dial on the site. I think forgot to say it's an aftermarket bezel too? They're a decent outfit to work with. I've purchased a couple of Omegas from them over the past 18 months. I would have bought from the exclusively if they didn't jack up the prices on some pieces to ridiculous levels.

8 April 2016, 07:17 AM	#8
southcarolina1801 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Peach State Posts: 735	C&C has a nice selection but I think their prices are borderline ridiculous

8 April 2016, 03:13 PM	#10
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	Gross

8 April 2016, 06:24 PM	#12
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631

8 April 2016, 08:12 PM	#13
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854

8 April 2016, 08:39 PM	#14
petereoin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ireland Watch: 5513,16610 Posts: 217	States in ad "Aftermarket dial color", but no mention of the aftermarket bezel

8 April 2016, 08:43 PM	#15
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,621	I think a red sub could look cool if it was done right, a la The Hulk. That attempt is pretty weak and looks awful, IMO

8 April 2016, 08:46 PM	#16
jbenjamin1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Jay Location: NY Metropolitan Watch: Many Posts: 741	What the...

8 April 2016, 08:50 PM	#17
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,105	Oh boy

8 April 2016, 09:01 PM	#18
minute_man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Basil Location: Athens, GR Watch: BoctokKomandirskie Posts: 2,881	Awful

8 April 2016, 09:23 PM	#21
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	Great buy... if you don't mind everyone thinking you have a fake Rolex.

8 April 2016, 09:26 PM	#22
WatchinMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Larry Location: Maryland Watch: Saxonia Moonphase Posts: 3,428	not for me

9 April 2016, 12:10 AM	#23
Bo-Dacious "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Unknown Posts: 289	I don't love it, but I don't think it looks bad. The brightness does strain the eyes, though.

9 April 2016, 12:52 AM	#24
Chaching "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: None of ya #@! Location: Somewhere Watch: Many! 116718 GOLD Posts: 2,137

9 April 2016, 04:48 AM	#25
Foxglove "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ross Location: Houston, TX Watch: yourself Posts: 838	looks like a cheap pos.

9 April 2016, 05:02 AM	#26
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	VERY Deceptive. C&C does a TON of marketing and I'm sure they appeal to people who may not have as much knowledge as us forum members. If I were a lamen, I would have NO idea that this watch is aftermarket. Some poor guy is going to buy that and think he has a unique authentic Rolex... __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

9 April 2016, 05:04 AM	#27
RolexAuthority Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: London Posts: 1,233	It's certifiable if you ever buy that faked

9 April 2016, 05:05 AM	#28
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	not what i would expect to see if i bought a red sub ,, i hate to think of the depreciation on that thing though ,,, i think if you bought it you really would have to love it , as you may just be its last owner.

9 April 2016, 07:36 AM	#30
flathead59 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 349	That was not what I expected to see when I saw "Red Sub" in the topic title! Mark

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