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kcmo · 31 July 2008, 09:13 AM

Hi Guys/Gals,

I'd love to get your thoughts on whether having BOTH a stainless Submariner and stainless GMT-IIC is a bit redundant.

Of course, I realize the function of each varies, but in terms of aesthetics, are they a bit too similar to justify owning both....

I LOVE my sub to death and have always thought about a GMT but stopped short in the past as I thought the bezel colors were a bit 'colorful' for me and I wasn't mad about the smaller crown. I've definitely changed my mind about the new ceramic version though....WOW!

What do you think? Thanks in advance!

veilstylez · 31 July 2008, 09:24 AM

I do think they are similar. I recently bought a LV and thought damn, its a little to similar to my GMTc, so I sold it. Granted both are VERY different watches, but to me the simularity is not worth keeping both for me. I rather have a Milgauss and a Sub or GMTc than to have a GMTc and a Sub at the sametime.

but the sub is a classic and the GMTc is just and update version of it.

But hey you have 2 similar DJ!!

mike · 31 July 2008, 09:32 AM

Karis,

Not IMHO. Besides the obvious diver vs. traveler distinction, the classic vs. supercase,brushed vs. polished centerlinks, and clasp differences make the two very diffenent pieces. Of course the difference in insert composition is a majoe visual difference. The Sub. with it's classic black insert is iconic. The GMT ceramic can take different hues from black to an almost pewter look depending on lighting.

Both is good.

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veilstylez

I do think they are similar. I recently bought a LV and thought damn, its a little to similar to my GMTc, so I sold it. Granted both are VERY different watches, but to me the simularity is not worth keeping both for me. I rather have a Milgauss and a Sub or GMTc than to have a GMTc and a Sub at the sametime.

but the sub is a classic and the GMTc is just and update version of it.

But hey you have 2 similar DJ!!

Yup but one is in the sales area!!!

buz-lh · 31 July 2008, 09:37 AM

I agree with Mike. At first glance to the unitiated maybe they appear too much alike. But for a true admitted 'She-WIS' I think you would enjoy the subtle differences.

jasonbellevue · 31 July 2008, 09:40 AM

They're two different watches. Both are great looking watches. I think my next Rolex is a GMT-IIC, go for it, Karis.

sea-dweller · 31 July 2008, 09:41 AM

Agreed !

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbellevue

They're two different watches. Both are great looking watches. I think my next Rolex is a GMT-IIC, go for it, Karis.

Andad · 31 July 2008, 09:46 AM

I agree Mike, the Sub and the GMT IIc's biggest similarity is that they are both Rolex and that is about it. Even the cyclops is different (AR).
They do have the same TripLock crown and now I am struggling.

Buy it - you won't regret the decision.

learnmore60 · 31 July 2008, 09:57 AM

I would go for a GMT IIc and the new Deep Sea...

walds11 · 31 July 2008, 10:13 AM

They are similar, but different. I hope that helps

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Karis,

Not IMHO. Besides the obvious diver vs. traveler distinction, the classic vs. supercase,brushed vs. polished centerlinks, and clasp differences make the two very diffenent pieces. Of course the difference in insert composition is a majoe visual difference. The Sub. with it's classic black insert is iconic. The GMT ceramic can take different hues from black to an almost pewter look depending on lighting.

Both is good.

Great pics as always Mike! Thanks....your rationale is making me feel better!

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buz-lh

I agree with Mike. At first glance to the unitiated maybe they appear too much alike. But for a true admitted 'She-WIS' I think you would enjoy the subtle differences.

Funny you say that b/c my husband said the same...ahhh, life as a She-WIS!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbellevue

They're two different watches. Both are great looking watches. I think my next Rolex is a GMT-IIC, go for it, Karis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sea-dweller

Agreed !

Thanks guys! The GMTII-C definitely has a strong following here

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

I agree Mike, the Sub and the GMT IIc's biggest similarity is that they are both Rolex and that is about it. Even the cyclops is different (AR).
They do have the same TripLock crown and now I am struggling.

Buy it - you won't regret the decision.

Appreciate it Eddie!

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by learnmore60

I would go for a GMT IIc and the new Deep Sea...

I'm afraid no DSSD for me....just too large and bulky for my taste (and wrist!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by walds11

They are similar, but different. I hope that helps

Ha, I hear ya!

SUPERDOC · 31 July 2008, 10:47 AM

I struggle with the same issue.

It depends on if you buy to collect or to wear...I still don't know which type of collector I am...

I thought that I collected to wear...but here I am with a sub-date SS and a GMT IIc...

I choose my watch of the day based on what I am wearing.

From a fashion perspective, there is no void that a Sub leaves that would be filled by a GMT. eg they both go (and go very well) with the same outfits...

Functionally, I love the GMT, and I have the GMT hand set to paris time right now looking forward to my next trip.

SO I think that if I had to, I would part ways with the sub, because its place on the roster is filled by the new GMT.

But I guess I must be a collector because I can't bring myself to part with the Sub...it's just too much of an Icon.

looking at your collection, I'd say you need a yellow gold, or a two-tone, or even a hot new DJ on leather....A GMT won't add much to what you have...

dweller · 31 July 2008, 10:52 AM

For me they wear and look to similar on the wrist, If I were picking between each I would take the GMT IIc..

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPERDOC

I struggle with the same issue.

It depends on if you buy to collect or to wear...I still don't know which type of collector I am...

I thought that I collected to wear...but here I am with a sub-date SS and a GMT IIc...

I choose my watch of the day based on what I am wearing.

From a fashion perspective, there is no void that a Sub leaves that would be filled by a GMT. eg they both go (and go very well) with the same outfits...

Functionally, I love the GMT, and I have the GMT hand set to paris time right now looking forward to my next trip.

SO I think that if I had to, I would part ways with the sub, because its place on the roster is filled by the new GMT.

But I guess I must be a collector because I can't bring myself to part with the Sub...it's just too much of an Icon.

looking at your collection, I'd say you need a yellow gold, or a two-tone, or even a hot new DJ on leather....A GMT won't add much to what you have...

Thanks for your input!

I'd say I'm a wearer as opposed to a 'collector'....I certainly don't spend this much on a watch just to say I own one/have it sit in a box. I want to wear what I have and enjoy it.

I'm not a yellow gold or two-tone person so it's stainless for me...

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dweller

For me they wear and look to similar on the wrist, If I were picking between each I would take the GMT IIc..

Thanks! I have more 'thinking' to do!

ttannert · 31 July 2008, 11:05 AM

They are nothing alike! Get them both! :-)

kcmo · 31 July 2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttannert

They are nothing alike! Get them both! :-)

You're appealing to my 'bad' side Tim!

Tools · 31 July 2008, 12:58 PM

Get one in the TT flavor...

DSJ · 31 July 2008, 01:19 PM

I like Larry's idea about the TT. A little more distinction than your DJ and Sub. Try to buy a used one too, so in case it becomes your next Polar Expy2, you won't have taken as big a hit as if you bought it new.

Z-Sub · 31 July 2008, 02:41 PM

The bezel is very different and the maxi dial and the extra green gmt hand gives the GMT a significantly differed look.

The old Black bezel GMT is more like a sub.

JJ Irani · 31 July 2008, 06:06 PM

Hey, Karis, my friend.....ever thought of a mid-sized YM? I know you're not a flipper and that's a gorgeous watch with the superb 2235 calibre movement.

JJ

B-ling88 · 31 July 2008, 07:14 PM

Too similar for a non-WIS yes but to a WIS not similar at all. Just get them both:)

Cheers,

Andy

swatty · 31 July 2008, 07:30 PM

Karis, If you are worried about having 2 watches that look similar you should buy the GMT II c and send the sub to me .

Trurolexer · 31 July 2008, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Both is good.

No, I don't agree with mike this time...Sorry...

I think BOTH is not just good, but REAL GOOD!!!

Sorry Sir

!!!

P.S : I think BOTH not so similar to me. But if someday Submariner up grade their model to ceramic, absolutely they will look so similar.

ROA · 31 July 2008, 09:18 PM

not redundant IMO...as long as you are happy with both then keep them! or u can even add more :)

i have a GMT2C, a SD and soon a GMT Pepsi (which has been delivered to my cousin in SFO)...can't wait to be in the US on August 9 to see the watch (not my cousin lol)

pwrslider · 31 July 2008, 09:24 PM

Karis.....in reality..2 watches are REDUNDANT!!!!

but......we're talking not just a watch...it's a Rolex...Therefore...there is NO redundancy here!!

There are members here that have different styles of the GMT II's..and others that have many different models of the classic subby....

My .02..........get what makes you happy!

ps: get em both!!

esm · 31 July 2008, 09:48 PM

thought I'm the only one with this "problem"..

I'm also looking at getting either a TT sub or a TT GMTIIC at the end of the year or early next year.

was at an AD the other day and they had these 2 beauties side by side, and I was having a difficult time deciding on which one I want.

I do like the "cleaner" look of the sub dial, and I dont think I'd be using the GMT dual-time function even though I travel quite often - but I do like the bezel on the GMTIIC.

will see what happens....

31 July 2008, 09:13 AM	#1
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	SS Sub Date and SS GMT-IIC....Too Similar to Own Both? Hi Guys/Gals, I'd love to get your thoughts on whether having BOTH a stainless Submariner and stainless GMT-IIC is a bit redundant. Of course, I realize the function of each varies, but in terms of aesthetics, are they a bit too similar to justify owning both.... I LOVE my sub to death and have always thought about a GMT but stopped short in the past as I thought the bezel colors were a bit 'colorful' for me and I wasn't mad about the smaller crown. I've definitely changed my mind about the new ceramic version though....WOW! What do you think? Thanks in advance!

31 July 2008, 09:37 AM	#5
buz-lh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Buz Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Tudor Pam Posts: 5,108	I agree with Mike. At first glance to the unitiated maybe they appear too much alike. But for a true admitted 'She-WIS' I think you would enjoy the subtle differences. __________________ Buz The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live. Peter Diamandis

31 July 2008, 09:40 AM	#6
jasonbellevue "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Jason Location: at home Posts: 5,098	They're two different watches. Both are great looking watches. I think my next Rolex is a GMT-IIC, go for it, Karis. __________________

31 July 2008, 09:46 AM	#8
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	I agree Mike, the Sub and the GMT IIc's biggest similarity is that they are both Rolex and that is about it. Even the cyclops is different (AR). They do have the same TripLock crown and now I am struggling. Buy it - you won't regret the decision. __________________ E

31 July 2008, 10:13 AM	#10
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	They are similar, but different. I hope that helps __________________ Adam

31 July 2008, 09:24 AM	#2
veilstylez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: so cali Posts: 1,253	I do think they are similar. I recently bought a LV and thought damn, its a little to similar to my GMTc, so I sold it. Granted both are VERY different watches, but to me the simularity is not worth keeping both for me. I rather have a Milgauss and a Sub or GMTc than to have a GMTc and a Sub at the sametime. but the sub is a classic and the GMTc is just and update version of it. But hey you have 2 similar DJ!!

31 July 2008, 09:32 AM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Karis, Not IMHO. Besides the obvious diver vs. traveler distinction, the classic vs. supercase,brushed vs. polished centerlinks, and clasp differences make the two very diffenent pieces. Of course the difference in insert composition is a majoe visual difference. The Sub. with it's classic black insert is iconic. The GMT ceramic can take different hues from black to an almost pewter look depending on lighting. Both is good.

31 July 2008, 09:57 AM	#9
learnmore60 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Watch: Love the Vintage Posts: 363	I would go for a GMT IIc and the new Deep Sea...

31 July 2008, 10:47 AM	#15
SUPERDOC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: R.J. Location: Canada Posts: 1,546	I struggle with the same issue. It depends on if you buy to collect or to wear...I still don't know which type of collector I am... I thought that I collected to wear...but here I am with a sub-date SS and a GMT IIc... I choose my watch of the day based on what I am wearing. From a fashion perspective, there is no void that a Sub leaves that would be filled by a GMT. eg they both go (and go very well) with the same outfits... Functionally, I love the GMT, and I have the GMT hand set to paris time right now looking forward to my next trip. SO I think that if I had to, I would part ways with the sub, because its place on the roster is filled by the new GMT. But I guess I must be a collector because I can't bring myself to part with the Sub...it's just too much of an Icon. looking at your collection, I'd say you need a yellow gold, or a two-tone, or even a hot new DJ on leather....A GMT won't add much to what you have...

31 July 2008, 10:52 AM	#16
dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: usa Posts: 249	Sub and GMT IIc For me they wear and look to similar on the wrist, If I were picking between each I would take the GMT IIc..

31 July 2008, 11:05 AM	#19
ttannert "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Tim Location: Ohio Watch: SS Black Daytona Posts: 872	They are nothing alike! Get them both! :-) __________________ The greatest luxury in life is time; treasure every second. __________________ My Collection: SS Rolex M Black Daytona SS Rolex V Black Milgauss GV SS Rolex M Black Milgauss TT Rolex Z White MOP Datejust SS Rolex M Coke GMT II SS Tag Heuer Black Kirium Chronometer

31 July 2008, 12:58 PM	#21
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Get one in the TT flavor... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

31 July 2008, 01:19 PM	#22
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	I like Larry's idea about the TT. A little more distinction than your DJ and Sub. Try to buy a used one too, so in case it becomes your next Polar Expy2, you won't have taken as big a hit as if you bought it new. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

31 July 2008, 02:41 PM	#23
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	It's not that similar. The bezel is very different and the maxi dial and the extra green gmt hand gives the GMT a significantly differed look. The old Black bezel GMT is more like a sub. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

31 July 2008, 06:06 PM	#24
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hey, Karis, my friend.....ever thought of a mid-sized YM? I know you're not a flipper and that's a gorgeous watch with the superb 2235 calibre movement. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

31 July 2008, 07:14 PM	#25
B-ling88 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: GMT-7 Canada Watch: Rolex 116710LN Posts: 212	Too similar for a non-WIS yes but to a WIS not similar at all. Just get them both:) Cheers, Andy

31 July 2008, 07:30 PM	#26
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Karis, If you are worried about having 2 watches that look similar you should buy the GMT II c and send the sub to me .

31 July 2008, 09:18 PM	#28
ROA "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North A Watch: 16710 Posts: 254	not redundant IMO...as long as you are happy with both then keep them! or u can even add more :) i have a GMT2C, a SD and soon a GMT Pepsi (which has been delivered to my cousin in SFO)...can't wait to be in the US on August 9 to see the watch (not my cousin lol)

31 July 2008, 09:24 PM	#29
pwrslider "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: SF BAY AREA CA Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 3,047	Karis.....in reality..2 watches are REDUNDANT!!!! but......we're talking not just a watch...it's a Rolex...Therefore...there is NO redundancy here!! There are members here that have different styles of the GMT II's..and others that have many different models of the classic subby.... My .02..........get what makes you happy! ps: get em both!! __________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner (95) Rolex SS GMT IIc (08) Rolex GMT II 16710 COKE (08 for me..) Rolex Explorer II Blk (91) Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish (07) Panerai 104 & 177ti ( 04/03)

31 July 2008, 09:48 PM	#30
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	thought I'm the only one with this "problem".. I'm also looking at getting either a TT sub or a TT GMTIIC at the end of the year or early next year. was at an AD the other day and they had these 2 beauties side by side, and I was having a difficult time deciding on which one I want. I do like the "cleaner" look of the sub dial, and I dont think I'd be using the GMT dual-time function even though I travel quite often - but I do like the bezel on the GMTIIC. will see what happens....

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