Tudor pocket watch

[whirlwynds]

Inherited this Tudor pocket watch and am looking for more info on it. Can't seem to find too much online.

[whirlwynds]

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[whirlwynds]

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[GradyPhilpott]

Maybe someone over on the vintage board can help.

[Old Expat Beast]

I’m moving this to the vintage section, where you’re more likely to get specialist opinions, especially on the movement.

All I can say is, that the dial logo is the earliest Tudor logo, used in the late 1920s to 30s, before Tudor became a separate company in 1946. In the pre war years, Rolex had a load of sub brands that were used mainly (as far as I know) in commonealth countries, and movemements were sent out from Switzerland and put in locally made cases.

Is that a casemaker’s name above where it says “gold filled”?

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I’m moving this to the vintage section, where you’re more likely to get specialist opinions, especially on the movement.

All I can say is, that the dial logo is the earliest Tudor logo, used in the late 1920s to 30s, before Tudor became a separate company in 1946. In the pre war years, Rolex had a load of sub brands that were used mainly (as far as I know) in commonealth countries, and movemements were sent out from Switzerland and put in locally made cases.

Is that a casemaker’s name above where it says “gold filled”?

I think it says warranted, but I could be wrong. I'm guessing it was a movement sent to be assembled in its country of sale as well though

[whirlwynds]

It says "warwick" above gold filled. The watch is likely a canadian assembled watch...

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by whirlwynds

It says "warwick" above gold filled. The watch is likely a canadian assembled watch...

Yep , makes sense. I had a women's watch one a fortune gold filled case from Canada

[GLADIATOR]

Interesting piece.
Using Rolex terminology in "Prima" which was a grading system used by Rolex prior to 1935, when they changed to "superbalance"

Watch was made for European market (in my opinion) and I think case maker is here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=3P...0cases&f=false

Regards
adam

[landroverking]

I have an Elgin in that very case given to my father on his 17BD in 1938.

[whirlwynds]

Thanks for all the great input on what is a very cool piece of history! What makes you think the watch is for the European market?

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Interesting piece.
Using Rolex terminology in "Prima" which was a grading system used by Rolex prior to 1935, when they changed to "superbalance"

Watch was made for European market (in my opinion) and I think case maker is here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=3P...0cases&f=false

Regards
adam

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by whirlwynds

Thanks for all the great input on what is a very cool piece of history! What makes you think the watch is for the European market?

The regulator is marked in BOTH French and English.

"A and R" = French for advance and retard
"F ans S" = English for fast and slow.

Its not a 100% definitive definition, but tends to fit that way.

adam

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

The regulator is marked in BOTH French and English.

"A and R" = French for advance and retard
"F ans S" = English for fast and slow.

Its not a 100% definitive definition, but tends to fit that way.

adam

Weren't they stamped AR and FS as standard, regardless of destination market? And don't forget they speak both languages in Canada, where this piece may well have been cased.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Weren't they stamped AR and FS as standard, regardless of destination market? And don't forget they speak both languages in Canada, where this piece may well have been cased.

Nope not always.
I can post examples of all three options